"Oh, I haven't said anything, don't worry"

[passionflower]

I missed that and that statement MEANS ALLOT!!!!!! Great listening

 

[eddeva]

thanks Capri and spartanmom - there are so many people wrapped up in this i'm starting to really loose track now.

 

[Spool]

OMG

Is that apartment Zani's apartment
The ones with the drums in it
Yes it has drums in it
Is that Zanis apartment because I know whose apartment that is
Thats Ricardos apartment was set up a lot to look like Zanis apartment

HOLY SH*T

Maybe OMG Maybe Zani is a cover for someone else !!!!


You'll have to listen but its near enough !!!

OMG

So why would Ricardo's apartment be set up to look a lot like Zani's apartment? Same decorator or what?

 

[coco puff]

No no sarcasm being serious holding out hope I suppose
Had a really hard day today
Im off to bed
I just think the way Cindy says about the apartment and the photos
Those interviews just dont sit right as in Casey being a cold blooded murderer -I dont see it. and I dont see shes smart enough to pull it off

how much more cold blooded can you get then having your daughter kidnapped that day and then going on a date with your boyfriend that evening? They come smarter but no one comes any colder and more evil that Casey Anthony.

 

[passionflower]

More shocking to me, no matter how many times I watch this interview, is her demeanor as she sits down with a big "HI" & inappropriate laughter, under
such horrific circumstances, being so comfortable in JAIL!, with your daughter Missing!! It's astounding, & totally abnormal. She portrays somewhat of a celebrity-like personna, enjoying all the attention. It defies logic, that any mother, faced with the loss of their child, & accused of unspeakable charges can be so removed from the reality of a parent's WORST nightmare.

I totally agree! Casey's demeanor and actions are so inappropriate to the situation. It's like she is LOVIN IT! Now that Caylee is gone she has GA & CA full attention. She doesn't have to share it with anyone. More like a sibling rivalry. I totally believe Casey wanted all the attention from her parents and didn't like to share it with Caylee, what a terrible shame. It was different with LA, he was a boy, not the competition as with another female (Caylee).[/QUOTE]

Now that we know CAYLEE is dead, everything any of the kc GANG does is 3 times as bad! The jail needs a wing and name it the "A" wing .....IMO:behindbar

 

[3doglady]

I always thought it just meant that KC was bad mouthing the Anthonys and they found out about it.

That's the way I had understood it also.

 

[passionflower]

how much more cold blooded can you get then having your daughter kidnapped that day and then going on a date with your boyfriend that evening? They come smarter but no one comes any colder and more evil that Casey Anthony.

The whole family unit is warped! I like YM word *diabolical* IMO

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Great Catch ks1. I remember seeing that and waiting ever so patiently for a thread to arise but as with most things with this case some other factoid popped up and drew my attention away. Probably why I'm not a detective. Short attention span. But, you're right about it being something that would most definitely have perked up the police about the family's possible involvement or knowledge that should have been brought to their attention.

 

[curves]

Hey Curves sounds like were thinking alike.
Do you you teenagers too? LOL

Hi Spartanmom - I'm only 29, so thank goodness no! :blowkiss:

 

[reeseeva]

I clocked that converstaion as well but took it differently. To me it seemed like Cindy started off saying 'I have seen that photo, whose apartment is it' to see if KC was going to tell the truth or say it was Zanny's. I then got the impression that Cindy bottled it because KC was taking so long to answer her and so just blurts out 'I know whose apartment that is!' so that KC can't lie to her about it. KC then says 'it was Ricardo's apartment, it's set up to look a lot like Zanny's'.:bang::bang: WHY??? After KC says that, Cindy's whole demeanour changes and she relaxes as if she can now rest assured that KC isn't lying to her about Zanny.

JMO and impression...

"It's set up to look alot like Zanny's" WTF!!! WHY?? (The only "set up" is what's going on) Did anyone else wretch when you heard this?? This should have a Post of it's own!

Sorry I had to insert my feelings in your thread!

 

[PoppyH]

No no sarcasm being serious holding out hope I suppose
Had a really hard day today
Im off to bed
I just think the way Cindy says about the apartment and the photos
Those interviews just dont sit right as in Casey being a cold blooded murderer -I dont see it. and I dont see shes smart enough to pull it off

Just more Casey BS lies, Casey is a bad liar, altho she lies with ease , she could almost sell igloos to eskimos

 

[eddeva]

she could almost sell igloos to eskimos

so that's what she was doing during the day ....

 

[amysmom]

Was that one of the first videos made of their visits? I honestly do not know how anyone can distrust Cindy after viewing it. It is so obvious to me that she and GA are entirely focussed on finding Caylee. They are swallowing KC's BS hook, line and sinker....poor fools.

It was the very first time the A's had seen her post-arrest..At that time what stood out to me was the look on CA's face almost the entire time she was watching KA..It reeked of serious distrust & anger..She may have been saying she believed her 'story' (for her own sanity it was a necessity) but her body language told to me she did not.

Everything changed after this visit..I'm not sure if CA found out for sure Caylee was gone or she just went in to denial mode but it made me change my mind about her & what was now her prime focus..

 

[minazoe]

yeah, I would like to see this picture...Caylee is probably in it standing near a drum set,

did this conversation happen during her first trip to jail? I wonder when she claimed that this picture was taken at Z's? did she tell this to the A's or did the police have this picture at one point and KC claimed it was Z's house?

seems like KC covers her right on beat without hesitation...now the aprtment in the photo has been staged somehow or is a copy of Z's apartment (in some intentional way) in other words ...the way in which the drums are set up, is intentional, to look like Z's apt.

WOW

she is truly diabolical. she makes it sound like she could have easily been mistaken, say if that photo was possibly one that CA could give to the police to show there is truly a Zanny the Nanny.

KC is completely utterly defiant...oh no, she's not crying...nope...and when her parents write their book and make enough money to retire in that house or move to something more lovely, KC will lose her mind with jealousy and spite.

 

[BonKai]

CA knew KA was late to their visit because she was with the shrink..So, I always had the feeling what was said between CA & KA had more to do with something family related then the crime itself..Something neither one of them, especially CA, wanted out there.

That was my impression as well. CA looks really nervous about KC's visit with the shrink. CA is rocking back and forth which indicates to me that she is very nervous.

 

[tfrohning]

She didn't. No Zanny, no key given.

Right! I got to remember not to drink the kool aid sometime

 

[yosande]

I haven't seen this discussed anywhere and don't know where to put it.
In the first jailhouse visit CA tells KC "We forgive anything that you've said".
KC holds the phone away from her ear, looks at it as if in shock and states "Oh, I haven't said anything, don't worry". I think this comment raised a big red flag with LE. I haven't seen any discussion as to what this may have been about, does anyone have any idea?

She pulls the phone away from her ear because the sound was too high. She asks them to turn it down, and then when it is at a comfortable tone, she makes the don't worry statement, which appears completely out of step with what her mother said. It is an inappropiate response. Nevertheless, CA is relieved that Casey heard her because it was an important statement and she wanted her daughter to hear it. She imo was told that Casey was afraid her mom wouldn't forgive her, so she was attempting to reassure her. It appears to me that they are uncomfortable talking love and forgiveness, or anything deep, or heartfelt. CA is rocking, nervous until she says that, and then she appears more relaxed, but I think it's because she needed to get it said and heard.
The full statement is important and it is, "We forgive anything you have said, or done." She just wants her granddaughter back, and Casey responds with spin, imo.
the conversation continues with Casey blowing off all that CA is attempting to gather as far as information. CA is clearly the docile one in that relationship, though most think CA is the ruler of the roost. It's clear to me that Casey is the one in control in that family.
CA clearly loves her daughter, and her granddaughter, and is extremely concerned for Caylee in this visit. She is also concerned for her daughter, and her heart breaks when her daughter cries. jmo

 

[tripleC]

Yes, the pic was of RM apartment. I just wish CA wouldn't have said she Knew who's apartment it was. Casey was going to say Zani's apartment, but CA threw that out there. I think CA knew the it was not Zani's or that a Zani doesn't exist, but she didn't truly want to hear Casey tell a lie, she couldn't face it.
It's kinda like when a parent knows their teenager is lying about drinking/smoking, etc. so the parent won't stay up at night until the teen comes home and smell their breath.

Like an outa sight outta mind type thing. If I don't see or hear it then it doesn't exist or really happen.

I agree. I believe she knew how far KC would take the lie if given the chance & decided to not waste time or energy on another drawn out, going in circles story.

 

[FloridaKatz]

OMG, another thing I just noticed on this video. GA asks KC if there's anywhere she may have taken Caylee out of town over the past months, and she says "no dad, I haven't been out of the city since March, went to Jacksonville in March and then to Cocoa Beach I think in May". THE LOOK ON HIS FACE is telling. He knows right then, that the whole "story" about going to Tampa for work with a co-worker, the nanny, the nanny's kids and Caylee is a lie. I think this is when he realizes that Caylee is gone for good.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I always thought they were not on the same page when it was said. CA was forgiving anything KC had said ABOUT THEM...all of the bs in the first call home, any name calling, maybe what was said during the infamous family fight, etc.....KC THOUGHT CA was talking about forgiving KC for anything INCRIMINATING that she may have said. I think it was a HUGE slip on KC's part, she even looked stunned as if her mom might know something, but CA was in the dark.

This is my take on it as well.