OH OH - Katelyn Markham, 22, Fairfield, 14 August 2011 - #4

[A_News_Junkie]

The chief told me that they were working with FBI profilers at the vigil back in Jan - whoo hoo, finally something to hope for!

http://www.local12.com/news/local/s...g-Persons-Case-of/tNRPjeMoU0KpnAj3WQwr0w.cspx

Whoops - concernedmother already posted it! I just got home and saw it and was way excited to share!

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

If you go by the evidence, Katelyn disappeared outside her condo, leaving her keys, purse, car and dreams behind. "I do have a lot of information about her friends, what was going on on in her life." Investigators might use profiling recommendations to help question a suspect.

I thought this was interesting that they believe she disappeared outside her condo. They say evidence so I believe they have something that makes them think that.

We thought that the last time this reporter, Deb Dixon, made a similar comment in October 2011 (saying "Katelyn disappeared from the parking lot"). When I emailed her personally and asked her about it, she affirmed that that was her own deduction based NOT on any new evidence, but from the lack of evidence of a struggle inside the townhome.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

These are all the quotes I could find re FBI & profiling, in our collected info (http://kmdce.livejournal.com/4228.html):


August 18 - Scott Sloan & Tracy Jones interview John Carter, 700 WLW Radio Cincinnati

JC: Um, [Fairfield Police Department] have been really great, they've brought in other investigators, um, federal investigators even, and it's just been - they've been really helpful.

[read full transcript here http://kmdce.livejournal.com/1178.html]


August 22 - Bill Cunningham interviews Chief Dickey, 700 WLW Radio Cincinnati

BC: Have you contacted the FBI?

CD: We have talked with the FBI as well as BCI, um, um, those, those agencies have uh offered what assistance they can, uh, BCI has collected some things, uh, out of her apartment, but uh, since they're *potentially*, uh, evidentiary in nature, I - I really can't discuss the particulars.

[read full transcript here: http://kmdce.livejournal.com/4417.html]


August 25 - Bethany Marshall on Nancy Grace

MARSHALL: Well, John sounds sincerely concerned about her. He doesn't have that dead, exaggerated, dramatic quality to his voice that perpetrators have when they call 911. He says that she is not the kind of person who would deceive. He shows empathy towards her. Perps are very deprecating towards their victims, so he doesn't fit the psychological profile of a homicidal boyfriend.

[read full transcript http://kmdce.livejournal.com/2651.html]


August 26 - Bill Cunningham interviews Chief Dickey, 700 WLW Radio Cincinnati

CD: We have talked to the FBI, and um, one of the uh, uh, tasks that we have got before us is, we're going to talk to their Behavioral Science Unit, to see if we can kind of profile this thing, and see where that goes.

[read full transcript http://kmdce.livejournal.com/3691.html


(So apparently they had talked to the feds but NOT the BSU at that point.)

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

We thought that the last time this reporter, Deb Dixon, made a similar comment a few months ago (saying "Katelyn disappeared from the parking lot"). When I emailed her personally and asked her about it, she affirmed that that was her own deduction based NOT on any new evidence, but from the lack of evidence of a struggle inside the townhome.

BTW I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the October 6th, 2011 FB discussion about the reporter's personal deductions on the page "Katelyn Markham's Disappearance: Considering Everything", and/or if I'm allowed to quote from the reporter's private email to me about it... so unless I hear otherwise I won't quote/link directly.

 

[kemo]

I spent some time getting "up to speed" on this case. It doesn't fit any real pattern I can think of. Yes, the "significant other" is obvious first place to look. He was the last person known to be with her and his 911 call was a little "hinkey" (way to much information).

Unlike most "significant other" murders, he doesn't have a real motive. There was no life insurance, property, or child support issues that I am aware of. If she planned to leave him, he would have been upset but there would have been no "financial issues". Now, IF, and it is a real big IF, Katelyn were pregnant or had taken out a life insurance policy, that would change everything. Certainly Law Enforcement has checked this angle out.

Now this could have been a crime of passion/fit of anger sort of thing, but somehow the lack of any evidence of violence, the elaborate manipulation of cell phone evidence and the alibi that would have been necessary (not to mention the guy's demeanor; which doesn't seem to be consistent with impulsive violence), doesn't suggest that this was an unplanned event that the guy was able to cover up on the fly.

The most compelling evidence in the BF (boyfriend's) favor is that he seems to have a pretty solid alibi for the critical time: 12:00 AM to 1:00 AM Sunday morning.

There is the "mystery" friend of theirs who was with them that evening and left "sometime before the BF did". He has apparently verified that there was no "arguments". I refer to him as a "mystery" because his existence was never mentioned in any early public accounts of the case. I would find it very suspicious if the BF didn't mention his existence right away. There are plenty of cases where "friends" are talked into lying to the police. Sometimes they know they are helping a murderer, other times they genuinely think their friend is innocent and is unfairly being targeted by police. Certainly Law Enforcement had gone over this guys account real carefully.

Apparently there are 6 people who will verify that the BF got to the house where the "papers" were burned and stayed there until around 4:00AM. This is a very good alibi since we know that there was activity on Katelyn's phone through the tower near her home, including the 12:45 "shut down" while the BF was at a physically remote location. Certainly Law Enforcement has cell phone records of both Katelyn's and BF's phone for the entire period and statements has been obtained by all of the people at that house.

While the BF might seem to be in the clear, a serious red flag was raised by the neighbor who gave pretty compelling information to the effect that nobody; not Katelyn, not the BF, not the "mystery" friend, were at the house the evening in question. He and another neighbor report a car that was not the BF's, pulling into the parking area, stopping for a short time then leaving. You have to wonder: did someone use Katelyn's phone to send a photo to the BF then shut down the phone while in that parking area? Certainly Law Enforcement has considered the possibility that someone with ties to the case might drive a vehicle with a "box-like rear".

I don't think it takes a criminal genius to figure out that using a victim's phone near that person's residence can create an impression that they were alive and well and at home during a particular time period, when they were not. The BF lived only 1/4 mile from Katelyn and apparently they shared a cell tower. Through triangulation, exact location of calls can sometimes be established.

The strangest nugget of information, that has come up during this investigation is the burning of Katelyn's documents. The BF seems to put a great importance on this. I suppose it is possible that he "excused himself" to go out to the fire pit and burn some document while he was otherwise hanging out with friends after midnight. Could he have used that time to drive back into Fairfield, perhaps in a borrowed car, with a box-like rear?

I am not certain the BF had anything to do with the disappearance of Katelyn but I am offering up, as my 2 cents worth, a scenario that might have happened:

Katelyn gets off work and goes home. She lets her dog out of the bathroom. BF comes over soon after and they go out together. BF kills Katelyn soon after that. During the next few hours, BF drives by Katelyn's home and uses her phone to make calls, FB posts or whatever. He leaves her phone on and at a location near her home (perhaps his home) so the ping record would suggest she never left the area. At around 12:00AM, he drives to his friends house where he spends the next four hours except for the 20 minutes he is gone to "burn some papers" in the fire pit (which he uses to drive back to Fairfield to make the final phone call). After 4:00AM he goes to his home where he makes his last text to Katelyn and then drives somewhere to dispose of the body. He returns home and goes to bed. Later, after he finds himself under scrutiny by not only the police but friends and relatives, he gets a friend to come forward and claim he was with them, at Katelyn's home, that evening.

 

[SurfieTX]

MIDDLETOWN — The body part found Monday afternoon on the shore of the Great Miami River will be sent to the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office in connection with a body with a missing foot, according to Middeltown police.
Officials with the Butler County Coroner’s Office refused to accept the foot since they did not have a body missing a foot. However, the Montgomery County Coroner’s office does have a body missing a foot, said Middletown police Lt. Scott Reeve.

“When we started our search, we didn’t know the Montgomery County Coroner (had a body that) was missing a foot,” he said. “When we initiated our search, we were looking for other body parts, or a body.”

At 3 p.m. Monday, two fishermen found the severed foot — police are unsure if it’s a left or right foot — on the east shore along the river as they were putting out fishing lines, said Reeve. It was found about a third of a mile north of Germantown Road next to a pile of debris.

http://www.oxfordpress.com/news/oxf...-being-sent-to-montgomery-county-1372223.html

 

[Wanting2Help]

Quote from above article:

Officials with the Butler County Coroner’s Office refused to accept the foot since they did not have a body missing a foot.

How often does this happen that a coroners office refuses a body part because they don't have a body to go with the part??? What happens to the part if they are not accepted by a coroner???

 

[Mustang Sally]

Bumping for Katelyn.....Where are you sweet girl?

Dear God...Please Bring Katelyn Home to Those That Love Her!!

 

[concernedmother]

Since it appears JC has a GF and possibly had her immediately after KM disappeared I wonder if she was in the picture before KM disappeared and KM found out? That could prompt a big fight and thing getting out of control. I think Im starting to lean more to him doing something. From media appearances tho he doesnt seem that bright to pull off a crime and not leave evidence and make her disappear where no one can find her without some help.

 

[Darcyline]

He has a new gf and has had one for awhile? Is that confirmed? I want to make sure before I start side-eyeing. I know that isn't really proof of anything, but something has always felt off to me about him.

 

[concernedmother]

Family have confirmed he has a gf on the MKMCE page. I know I sure didnt want to believe it.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

http://www.fox19.com/story/18628282/remembering-the-missing-on-national-missing-persons-day

Small mention of our local missing including Katelyn.

 

[katydid23]

I have been thinking about this case because it has similarities to the current case of Mickey in Lafayette. There is a carnival nearby, and a friend/bf that is the last to see her. And similar age and personality. I wish we could find the answers to these cases. :rose:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

I have been thinking about this case because it has similarities to the current case of Mickey in Lafayette. There is a carnival nearby, and a friend/bf that is the last to see her. And similar age and personality. I wish we could find the answers to these cases. :rose:

Katy - thought the same thing last night when they told about the carnival there. I also recently looked up and saw there were other festivals here in town the same night as Sacred Heart Festival. My pondering is if there was an element of truth in the 911 call. The mention of the festival...... Chief Dicky told us in Jan that Rumpke (the local trash company that picked up SHF trash) was searched, but what if a dumpster at a different festival was used???? Kinda like when KC said, 'I feel in my heart she is close.' Was the mention of the festival a slip?

So little to go on. :banghead:

I even paused the NG coverage on the lady in the straw hat several times because she looks remarkably like some of the pics of Katelyn. If you find out who she is - send me an 'interoffice' mail!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

http://www.fox19.com/story/18628282/remembering-the-missing-on-national-missing-persons-day

Small mention of our local missing including Katelyn.

Quoting myself to let you know the video is now up!

 

[Breazy]

So, the boyfriend has a new girlfriend and has had since early on. Sure doesn't sound like someone that was so in love with Katelyn and planning to move away together. I have ALWAYS felt something extremely hinky about him and have posted as such back in the thread. Wonder if LE checked that burn pile where JC was supposedly burning papers? Surely so. Like others here, it's hard for me to believe that he would be smart enough to disappear Katelyn and leave no evidence. Come to think about it, this seems to be happening over & over again... obvious perp leaving no evidence and not seeming smart enough to cover his tracks that well. Maybe, just maybe, smarts has nothing to do with it. Praying Katelyn is found and brought home!!!

 

[Ven]

From some posts on the last page it sounded like she disappeared in the parking lot,
and that her keys and purse were left behind,

Why would she be in the parking lot without her keys and purse? Or were they found in the parking lot?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

From some posts on the last page it sounded like she disappeared in the parking lot,
and that her keys and purse were left behind,

Why would she be in the parking lot without her keys and purse? Or were they found in the parking lot?

Nobody knows for sure where she 'disappeared' from as there really doesn't appear to be any real crime scene. The BF reported her keys and purse were in the town home and I think LE said that too.

 

[Ven]

Nobody knows for sure where she 'disappeared' from as there really doesn't appear to be any real crime scene. The BF reported her keys and purse were in the town home and I think LE said that too.

OK (sorry just now followed this for first time) ... someone said that there was no struggle inside the home, seems strange that all important items would be left inside if she were leaving somewhere, and yet if she were inside there would typically be signs of a struggle?

I wonder if they tested the home and car for blood?

 

[A_News_Junkie]

OK (sorry just now followed this for first time) ... someone said that there was no struggle inside the home, seems strange that all important items would be left inside if she were leaving somewhere, and yet if she were inside there would typically be signs of a struggle?

I wonder if they tested the home and car for blood?

Glad to have another set of eyes looking at Katelyn's case. LE has not released publicly much in this case at all. I think JC said he gave LE permission to search his car, but locally many of us wonder if other cars he had access to were searched. Her car was still in the back lot.

We are coming on year here soon and I fear that we can walk every inch of the tri-state area and not find her. Frustrating as the weeds and brush are growing quick and another summer of growth, any ground disturbances will be even harder to see. I think all we can do now is lease: