OH - Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, fatally shot multiple times by Columbus police officer, 20 April 2021

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  • #281
I am all for the benefits that a Social Worker can bring, as I worked along side one for years. But no ! to the showing up at a violent chaotic scene in place of LE. Just no! That is so not the answer, IMO.
I'm just SMH at this comment by the Columbus City Council member. Is the 911 operator supposed to contact a social worker to stop a person from stabbing another person? Some people just have to have something to say no matter how ludicrous it sounds. JMO
 
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I'm just SMH at this comment by the Columbus City Council member. Is the 911 operator supposed to contact a social worker to stop a person from stabbing another person? Some people just have to have something to say no matter how ludicrous it sounds. JMO
Exactly. The 911 caller asked for Police, not a social worker.
 
  • #283
Some people aren’t talking about the man bashing in the female’s head because it doesn’t fit the agenda. I’m surprised the cops aren’t being bashed for not putting a stop to that. JMO

What agenda is that?
 
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Questions raised over police officer's use of deadly force in Ma'Khia Bryant's death

Former FBI agent Harry Trombitas shared his perspective on the body-cam footage based on how he and other officers have been trained.

"There was not time to do anything else other than end the threat immediately, and the best way to do that in that moment was with a firearm," Trombitas said.

Trombitas said tasers are not as effective in stopping every person.

Woods offered a hypothetical scenario.

"If there's not deadly force being perpetrated on someone else at that time, the officer has the opportunity to have cover, distance, and time to use a taser, but if those things aren't present, and there is an active assault going on in which someone could lose their life, the officer can use their firearm to protect that third person," Woods said.
Having watched the new video, I have to agree with this.
My impression was that it would have taken more than a taser to stop her, I doubt she would even have felt it. JMO.
She appeared to be a whole lot stronger than I had seen in the bodycam footage.
Nobody would have stopped her based on my impression, absolutely nothing and nobody.
I was trying to figure out whether she had experience using knives because of the way that she held it. I couldn't see clearly enough to know for sure but I'd be interested in someone else's view.
I've studied a lot of stabbings in other countries and I may have the impression she knew what she was doing, not sure yet... that's partly because of my visuals.
 
  • #285
The 911 caller asked for a police officer and a crisis officer.
Maybe something happened there before and the Mobile Crisis Response Unit stopped it.
The foster mother said they were arguing the day before.
 
  • #286
It’s hard to understand how or why a sixteen year old has so much bitterness and anger in her, Columbus is where I live and Columbus is where I work. I actually work in Columbus City Schools. I work inner city and it’s rough!! These kids fight everyday, two teachers went out of here last year with concussions trying to break up fights. When you fix the parents, you will fix the kids. They are taught to fight, their parents were taught to fight. But, yet at the same time I love theses students, I would do anything for them, because deep inside, at the end of the day they are kids. I am a little white lady, that is not what they see, they see I care I want better for them. So, until you have lived this life you will not understand these kids or why they do what they do!

She was in foster care. So I’m sure she has experienced a lifetime of sorrow in order to be bitter.

My brother worked at Castlemont High in Oakland. One of the worst high schools in California. There were scary fights at times.

But interestingly, he said most of the kids were normal kids who had two parent homes and if you bothered calling the parents about their kids’ behavior, like not paying attention, acting out, not turning in homework, most would be very upset with their kids and brought the hammer down on them: “Oh really? He did what!” The problem is, most teachers and staff just didn’t give a you know what.

My brother said that he wasn’t given books (English class) for the first 7 weeks of school. He wasn’t given chalk and had to buy his own. The intercom system didn’t work. When he complained, he was told to just show them movies.

He was really trying to teach them under horrible, unsupportive conditions.

This is what kids in inner city schools often have to contend with. So is it a wonder that those who don’t have the most stable home life erupt? These kids know darn well that society doesn’t care.

My brother quit. Not because of the kids. But because of the total lack of teacher and student support. The kids were devastated.

I don’t know what school situation this child had but her home life seemed to be enough to cause her to be unstable. It’s tragic.
 
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Having watched the new video, I have to agree with this.
My impression was that it would have taken more than a taser to stop her, I doubt she would even have felt it. JMO.
She appeared to be a whole lot stronger than I had seen in the bodycam footage.
Nobody would have stopped her based on my impression, absolutely nothing and nobody.
I was trying to figure out whether she had experience using knives because of the way that she held it. I couldn't see clearly enough to know for sure but I'd be interested in someone else's view.
I've studied a lot of stabbings in other countries and I may have the impression she knew what she was doing, not sure yet... that's partly because of my visuals.

I don’t think she was any stronger than anyone else her age in that state. A taser would’ve done it. It does it for almost anyone. Black people are typically viewed as stronger, bigger, more aggressive and more dangerous than anyone else in the same situation.

That being said, she was attacking someone with a knife. Protocol is deadly force to save the life of the other.
 
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I don’t think she was any stronger than anyone else her age in that state. A taser would’ve done it. It does it for almost anyone. Black people are typically viewed as stronger, bigger, more aggressive and more dangerous than anyone else in the same situation.

That being said, she was attacking someone with a knife. Protocol is deadly force to save the life of the other.
I couldn't see it in the bodycam videos, I only saw it in the neighbour's CCTV, felt very powerful energy from her.
 
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"He said the cop had no choice ... and my feeling is I don’t know if that’s true or not," Behar said. "I really can’t figure it out anymore. It seems to me ... in a situation ... I’ve looked at the tape and I still can’t figure it out. Shoot the gun in the air, warning, tase a person, shoot them in the leg, shoot them in the behind. Stop them somehow. But if the only solution is to kill a teenager, there’s something wrong with this."
Joy Behar: Columbus policeman who shot Ma'Khia Bryant could have just shot 'the gun in the air'
 
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"He said the cop had no choice ... and my feeling is I don’t know if that’s true or not," Behar said. "I really can’t figure it out anymore. It seems to me ... in a situation ... I’ve looked at the tape and I still can’t figure it out. Shoot the gun in the air, warning, tase a person, shoot them in the leg, shoot them in the behind. Stop them somehow. But if the only solution is to kill a teenager, there’s something wrong with this."
Joy Behar: Columbus policeman who shot Ma'Khia Bryant could have just shot 'the gun in the air'

Personally I don’t give a rats behind about what a celebrity thinks. I do wonder what Joy Behar thinks happens to a bullet when it’s shot in the air?
 
  • #294
"He said the cop had no choice ... and my feeling is I don’t know if that’s true or not," Behar said. "I really can’t figure it out anymore. It seems to me ... in a situation ... I’ve looked at the tape and I still can’t figure it out. Shoot the gun in the air, warning, tase a person, shoot them in the leg, shoot them in the behind. Stop them somehow. But if the only solution is to kill a teenager, there’s something wrong with this."
Joy Behar: Columbus policeman who shot Ma'Khia Bryant could have just shot 'the gun in the air'


National FOP response, to Joy Behar:

https://twitter.com/GLFOP
 
  • #295
What agenda is that?
What do you think it is? Some are only fixated on the shooting of a black teenager (who was wielding a knife) by a police officer to further their agenda that police officers are gun happy assassins. Meanwhile at the same crime scene a man is kicking another person in the head and little is said about that.
 
  • #296

Let me tell you, my family is LE. They are the most caring people you would ever meet. They get paid squat for the abuse and hate they receive. And now it is life threatening.

My goal is to convince them to change careers. This crummy world does not deserve my children's sacrifice.

This cop saved a black girl's life by taking down a punk. He is a HERO!
 
  • #297
Now folks, its the NYP... await further info.
The Ohio police officer who shot to death a black teenage girl in a disturbing encounter with a knife appears to be a military-trained marksman specializing in firing a gas-powered assault rifle, according to a report Wednesday.

Columbus police officer Nicholas Reardon — who was placed on paid leave after fatally shooting 16-year-old Ma’Khia Bryant Tuesday — is a U.S. Air National Guardsman who received an expert marksman badge with a M4 Carbine rifle, according to the Daily Beast.

Reardon, who joined the department in 2019, is also the son of Air Force veteran and retired Columbus Division of Police Sergeant Edward “Ted” Reardon, according to the outlet, which cited social media and other reports.
Cop who fatally shot Ma'Khia Bryant is military-trained marksman: report


Perhaps because he is a marksman he was able to take down the threat without hitting the girl that was being attacked. Some have said it is amazing he didn't hit bystanders
 
  • #298
I couldn't see it in the bodycam videos, I only saw it in the neighbour's CCTV, felt very powerful energy from her.

I agree. Also, in that video, she can be heard saying "I'm gonna stab the f*** out of you". She was definitely aggressive and planning on stabbing the girl
 
  • #299
Perhaps because he is a marksman he was able to take down the threat without hitting the girl that was being attacked. Some have said it is amazing he didn't hit bystanders
My view was that because he was a marksman he should have been able to neutralise her without killing her.
But, for that we simply must wait for the report.
 
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Ma'Khia was in the foster care system, Franklin County Children Services said Tuesday night. Don Bryant declined to comment on why or how long his younger cousin was in foster care, saying that Ma'Khia's mother was "working very hard to get everything together."

"They loved each other and Paula was working very hard to get her daughter back," he said.

The teen attended Independence High School, located in a suburb of Cleveland. A spokeswoman for Columbus City Schools said via email Thursday that Ma'Khia enrolled in the district in February. Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the district is using a hybrid learning model.

Her business education teacher, Austin Owens, knew Ma'Khia for only a few months but said she had big dreams for herself.

“She was going to run the world and she wasn’t going to be ostentatious about it,” Owens told NBC affiliate WCMH-TV in Columbus. “She was going to do it.”

On days when Ma'Khia was in school for in-person learning, she would sit in the front, her teacher said. She wrote in a five-year plan assignment that she wanted to go to college and open her own eyelash salon.

“The language she used in her five-year plan was somebody who desperately wanted better for her life,” he told the outlet. “And she wanted to make her parents proud. She wanted to be a productive citizen. I’m not paraphrasing — these are her exact words.”
Family of Ma'Khia Bryant speaks out after teen is killed by Columbus police
 
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