OH - Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, fatally shot multiple times by Columbus police officer, 20 April 2021

[SaguaroSpirit]

Tara, it sure looks like that's the case. They need to look in the mirror before placing blame elsewhere.

Does her dad, and mom live together? Has it been disclosed if her dad was always active in Ms life? Tia!

I did read an article last year that said 70 percent of AA children are being raised by a single parent.

Imo, a father's role to children is vitally important to any child as their mothers are. We must find away for children to have more positive male role models in their lives. I know many police officers take their off time to be positive mentors to so many children in need, but we need many more.

I know some fathers can be very abusive because I grew up enduring a very abusive father, but there are millions of great dads that far outnumber the bad ones. In fact more, and more fathers are being given full custody of their children now.

Jmho

BBM Totally in agreemant. Way to much misplaced blame in recent years in too many cases, IMHO.

 

[Dawookie]

the video of a 16 year old in tye-dye crocks is to much to bear. MOO I think the officer didn't have time to think he just reacted. but why shoot to kill and not shoot to injure? He was a marksman he knows how to aim.

Because LE are taught to shoot center mass to stop the threat. It's the biggest easiest target to put rounds on and the chance of a through and through shot going on to wound an innocent bystander is much less.

He was a trained marksman on a rifle which is different than being one with a pistol. Its two different skill sets

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Attorney Michael Wright with the Wright & Schulte Law Firm is now representing the family.

MOO

Thank you. I wonder why they didnt get Crump?

Is he a local attorney? Tia!

Jmho

 

[sds71]

Thank you.
Is he a local attorney? Tia!

Jmho

Yes
Dayton attorneys to help represent family of Andre’ Hill in fatal shooting case | WDTN.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

...
Bryant, 16, was in foster care with Franklin County Children's Services at the time of her death. Her grandmother, Debra Wilcox, described her as a shy and quiet girl, who liked making hair and dance videos on TikTok.

“The fact that I see what I saw on that video is not how I know my Ma'Khia,” Wilcox was quoted as saying by The Associated Press. “I don't know what happened there unless she was fearful for her life.”

Rep. Demings, who is a former social worker that worked with foster children, as well as a former cop and police chief in Florida said, "I also was a patrol officer who was out there on the street having to make those split-second decisions. You know, now everybody has the benefit of slowing the video down and seizing the perfect moment. The officer on the street does not have that ability. He or she has to make those split-second decisions and they're tough."

As the Hill reported, the officer involved in the fatal shooting of Bryant was identified last week as officer Nicholas Reardon, who has worked for the Columbus Division of Police since 2019.

Rep. Demings urged the country not to make this a political issues saying, "our good police officers need it, and quite frankly, the American people need it. We in Congress in both chambers can meet this moment as well if we have the political will to do so."
Rep. Val Demings: Cop in Ma’Khia Bryant death responded as trained | wtsp.com

Transcript: Rep. Val Demings on "Face the Nation," April 25, 2021 - CBS News

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Wouldn’t it depend on how long the foster children had stayed in the home, and how much of a bond they had made with the foster parents?

Let’s say you have children of your own. Sure, sometimes they get on with their lives at age 20, and you only see them once in a blue moon, but sometimes they hang around a little more than that.

And I’m grateful for that extra time. They need us as much as we need them. Mine won’t stray far. You are just never too old to need your mama.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Because LE are taught to shoot center mass to stop the threat. It's the biggest easiest target to put rounds on and the chance of a through and through shot going on to wound an innocent bystander is much less.

He was a trained marksman on a rifle which is different than being one with a pistol. Its two different skill sets

You are exactly right.

I thought of our son when I first read about it. He was high shooter with a rifle, in his platoon in the Marine Corps. He said going dear hunting with his daddy for years sure helped. Although this is much more precise while shooting all sorts of targets further, and further away. He said he learned a lot about even the slightest wind has to be considered when aiming at the targets.

This young officer seems to be a nice young man. I hope if they find the shooting justified, and they will... he gets to return to protecting, and serving his community.

For his own personal safety he will probably be reassigned to another part of the city.

Jmho

 

[Marg from Oz]

If that man in the video kicking the girl in the head is M's biological father then I feel he is as much to blame. Why would he not try to defuse the situation, take the knife off her? Instead he is encouraging her to be violent by kicking the other girl.
He also had no respect for LE because he did right in front of the cop.MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

...
The man filming asked a group of cops standing around a car if they were going to kill him "like they did Ma'Khia" - to which an officer responded: "You going to stab somebody like her?".

Clearly angered by the cop's remark, the man fired back: "No, but she called y'all for help. you talking about."

The clash was caught on camera and posted on TikTok, where is has been viewed thousands of times, with more than 3,000 commenting on it.

Many pointed out that Ma'Khia didn't stab anyone, while other defended the officer and said he was "completely right".

It's not clear whether the man had been stopped by police or whether it was a conversation as he passed by - but Metropolitan Police Department are looking into it.
Man argues with cops after asking 'are you going to kill me like Ma'Khia'

TikTok

 

[Kakidoll]

Thank you. I wonder why they didnt get Crump?

Is he a local attorney? Tia!

Jmho

MSM had reported they DID talk to Crump right away but since the other videos came out, he wasn't interested... basically. MOO on why, but i think we all know.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

If that man in the video kicking the girl in the head is M's biological father then I feel he is as much to blame. Why would he not try to defuse the situation, take the knife off her? Instead he is encouraging her to be violent by kicking the other girl.
He also had no respect for LE because he did right in front of the cop.MOO

Exactly. I totally agree. He must bear some responsibility. Parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles~ need to revisit the basics. Invest in children. Show them the way.

An oldie but a goodie. It was on my fridge for years when my kids were little. My favorite book is ‘All I really need to know, I learned in kindergarten. *I have a signed copy.

Children Learn What They Live
by Dorothy Law Nolte, Ph.D.

If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with fear, they learn to be apprehensive.
If children live with pity, they learn to feel sorry for themselves.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to feel shy.
If children live with jealousy, they learn to feel envy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with tolerance, they learn patience.
If children live with praise, they learn appreciation.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to love.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with recognition, they learn it is good to have a goal.
If children live with sharing, they learn generosity.
If children live with honesty, they learn truthfulness.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with kindness and consideration, they learn respect.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith in themselves and in those about them.
If children live with friendliness, they learn the world is a nice place in which to live.

 

[Dawookie]

You are exactly right.

I thought of our son when I first read about it. He was high shooter with a rifle, in his platoon in the Marine Corps. He said going dear hunting with his daddy for years sure helped. Although this is much more precise while shooting all sorts of targets further, and further away. He said he learned a lot about even the slightest wind has to be considered when aiming at the targets.

This young officer seems to be a nice young man. I hope if they find the shooting justified, and they will... he gets to return to protecting, and serving his community.

For his own personal safety he will probably be reassigned to another part of the city.

Jmho

Yeah, being a hunter growing up had helped tons of people when it comes to shooting in the military. It's pretty much a head start.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Because LE are taught to shoot center mass to stop the threat. It's the biggest easiest target to put rounds on and the chance of a through and through shot going on to wound an innocent bystander is much less.

He was a trained marksman on a rifle which is different than being one with a pistol. Its two different skill sets

I’ll post here to show the reality of a threatening incident that just happened Friday where an officer shot as trained. Who would question this officer’s actions? I can’t.
Warning. Graphic...

 

[Dawookie]

I’ll post here to show the reality of a threatening incident that just happened Friday where an officer shot as trained. Who would question this officer’s actions? I can’t.
Warning. Graphic...

He did everything right in that situation. Gave him multiple opportunities, created space between them and finally had to fire.

The officers remarks tell a side of the story that doesn't get talked about often. I'm not going to say all cops don't want have to their weapon but a huge majority don't want to have to be put on that situation. I have a friend that's been involved in three justified shootings on the job and I saw how each one effected him. When you're faced with a life or death situation, it's rough on the brain

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Please discuss each case on its own merits without the racial undertones.

Under Websleuths Victim Friendly policy, family members are victims. Stop the victim bashing.

Thank you.

 

[SaguaroSpirit]

Exactly. I totally agree. He must bear some responsibility. Parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles~ need to revisit the basics. Invest in children. Show them the way.

An oldie but a goodie. It was on my fridge for years when my kids were little. My favorite book is ‘All I really need to know, I learned in kindergarten. *I have a signed copy.

Children Learn What They Live
by Dorothy Law Nolte, Ph.D.

If children live with criticism, they learn to condemn.
If children live with hostility, they learn to fight.
If children live with fear, they learn to be apprehensive.
If children live with pity, they learn to feel sorry for themselves.
If children live with ridicule, they learn to feel shy.
If children live with jealousy, they learn to feel envy.
If children live with shame, they learn to feel guilty.
If children live with encouragement, they learn confidence.
If children live with tolerance, they learn patience.
If children live with praise, they learn appreciation.
If children live with acceptance, they learn to love.
If children live with approval, they learn to like themselves.
If children live with recognition, they learn it is good to have a goal.
If children live with sharing, they learn generosity.
If children live with honesty, they learn truthfulness.
If children live with fairness, they learn justice.
If children live with kindness and consideration, they learn respect.
If children live with security, they learn to have faith in themselves and in those about them.
If children live with friendliness, they learn the world is a nice place in which to live.

I remember this poster being displayed in schools, churches, etc. So very essential, and these days so very ignored.

 

[Sillybilly]

Admin hat off here .. I try not to post my opinion in most cases, but feel strongly on this one.

The video-taped incident that I viewed showed a girl backed up against an immovable vehicle and another girl with a knife charging her in a most threatening, close-up encounter. That victim had nowhere to go, no way out. That was a very fast-moving situation, and had the officer only shot to wound, not kill, that perpetrator could still have plunged that knife into that other young girl's heart and she could have been dead in a heartbeat. Had the officer not taken such action and the young girl was killed, folks would be asking why the officer didn't do more. In some cases, LEO seem damned if they do or damned if they don't.

If I was the parent of that young lady in pink, I would be thanking this officer for the rest of my life for saving my child. Yes, it's horrific that any young person had to lose their life, but IMO this officer did what they had to do in a split second to save the life of a person who was obviously in extreme peril.

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Admin hat off here .. I try not to post my opinion in most cases, but feel strongly on this one.

The video-taped incident that I viewed showed a girl backed up against an immovable vehicle and another girl with a knife charging her in a most threatening, close-up encounter. That victim had nowhere to go, no way out. That was a very fast-moving situation, and had the officer only shot to wound, not kill, that perpetrator could still have plunged that knife into that other young girl's heart and she could have been dead in a heartbeat. Had the officer not taken such action and the young girl was killed, folks would be asking why the officer didn't do more. In some cases, LEO seem damned if they do or damned if they don't.

If I was the parent of that young lady in pink, I would be thanking this officer for the rest of my life for saving my child. Yes, it's horrific that any young person had to lose their life, but IMO this officer did what they had to do in a split second to save the life of a person who was obviously in extreme peril.

MOO

Co-signed. Thank you sillybilly. My respect grows for you each day. For all the mods. And for Tricia. WS rocks!

 

[katydid23]

...
While officers took turns rendering CPR, several neighbors filled the residential street. Others stood in their driveways and doorways, shaking their heads. Some had heard the gunfire from their backyards while others were in the middle of unloading groceries from their car.

But almost every single witness that day stopped to film the aftermath of an incident they are now all too familiar with: the killing of another Black person in America at the hands of law enforcement.

“No! You ain’t shoot my (expletive) baby!” an unidentified Black man screams at the officer. “You shot my (expletive) baby!”

Reardon, who is white, responds, “She had a knife. She just went at her.”

“You have no respect for life,” another Black man, who lives across the street, can be heard yelling. “No, actually, you have no respect for Black life.”

Another neighbor was heard on body camera footage saying, “You ever hear of de-escalating? No, you guys just shoot.”

While Reardon faced recrimination at the scene, his split-second decision to shoot was commended by the national Fraternal Order of Police, which called it “an act of heroism, but one with tragic results.”

Meanwhile, Akpalo, the only Black officer who responded, began to gather and separate the various witnesses and placed them in police vehicles.

Craig-Watkins, the first woman to be attacked by Bryant, was put in the backseat where dashcam footage showed her weeping for several minutes as dozens of officers from a neighboring department arrived on the scene.

An ambulance arrived at 4:52 p.m. — 20 minutes after the initial 911 call — and left seven minutes later.

Around 5:05 p.m., as Craig-Watkins remained in the backseat, waiting to be interviewed by state investigators, audio of a judge speaking interrupts the flow of dispatches from the police radio.

The exact source of the audio wasn’t clear, but a live reading of the guilty verdict in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin, the Minneapolis police officer who killed Floyd, is heard streaming through the cruiser.

“Members of the jury, I am now going to ask you individually if these are your true and correct verdicts,” Judge Peter Cahill is heard saying on the audio. One by one the jurors begin to say yes. “Juror number 19, are these your true and correct verdicts?”

The audio is suddenly interrupted by Akpalo, who comes in to check on the witness.

“You still doing OK?” he asks.

“Yeah,” Craig-Watkins replies wearily as the officer shuts off the audio at 5:07 p.m. — with one police killing aftermath’s end colliding with the beginning of another.
https://www.wcpo.com/news/state/state-ohio/recordings-show-chaos-surrounding-makhia-bryant-shooting

“No! You ain’t shoot my (expletive) baby!” an unidentified Black man screams at the officer. “You shot my (expletive) baby!”

Reardon, who is white, responds, “She had a knife. She just went at her.”


I am wondering if the 'unidentified' man who screamed at the cop for shooting his baby, was actually the head kicker? That would make sense to me, that maybe she called her dad for help when she and the girls began arguing earlier.
And would give him a motive to kick the other girl, and might explain why he hasn't been arrested yet, if his daughter had been shot and killed. JMO

 

[katydid23]

I don't know about you but I wouldn't go outside to investigate gun shots to see what was going on. Not until it was obvious it was over and there was a police presence. But it does beg the question what was allowed in terms of people coming over to the home.

IMO, foster homes are supposed to provide a stable environment. Allowing carte blanche when you are absent doesn't bode well for a stable environment. My personal opinion, is that the foster mom is sloughing off the seriousness of the situation and painting it in simple terms of teenage girl spats. Inviting others into the home to police a situation in your absence, even if it was on the up and up is concerning. Most of these kids are fragile and exacerbating the situation is unprofessional and dangerous.

I don't know. The other girls were only about 22 yrs old, I believe. If they still called the FM their 'Mom', then they truly thought of this as their home. They shouldn't be banished from their 'home' just because they were now grown and had their own lives.

Maybe the FM thought it was a good thing for her ex foster kids to be elder siblings for the current ones? How could she ever expect that it would end up in a tragic death on her birthday?

The foster mom may be telling the truth as she knows it. She got the phone call and it was explained in that way to her and she retold what she heard.

I can totally see the argument escalating --even if it started over chores. If the older girls came in and began criticising MB, saying her room was a mess, and she better clean it up right now, etc etc...especially if they used rude comments mixed in, like pig sty, etc etc...it would escalate quickly.

There were comments about someone being locked out of the house, and being very angry about it....so either MB locked the older ones out, OR they locked MB out---

That would greatly escalate the matter---imagine how it would feel to be locked out of your foster home, and be criticised for being a sloppy mess, by older girls mocking or laughing...

Maybe MB called her Dad for back up to help her get back inside? Maybe she called the cops and said the girls were assaulting her? Any of those things may have escalated the indigent greatly.