OH - Ohio State University Rampage, 28 November 2016

[human]

Quite a few Somalis in Dubai

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=314143

 

[Tawny]

If the father has a well paying job in DuBai, why wouldn't he take his family there to live with him there?

Because it's expensive.

 

[katydid23]

Because it's expensive.

well, then I would like to know if this family was living on our welfare benefits here. If the father of the family was making a good living in Dubai, is it fair for him to expect the US to support his family for him?

Kids need their fathers. Obviously it was something this shooter could have benefitted from, to have a Father close by to be supportive and caring.

 

[Tillicum]

Mom thinks he was killed for no reason.

"She was crying, and said, 'I love you my son. I know they kill you for no reason,'" said Ahmed Sh. Ahmed, director of the mosque.

He had a job at Home Depot, an hourly associate.

Artan worked at the Home Depot on West Broad Street, a few miles from his home in western Franklin County. He was an hourly associate who worked there less than a year. A customer recalled seeing him about a month ago: "He was in the appliances section whistling and seeming very happy, very engaged in his work. Very polite."

Ohio State attacker buried; family still looking for answers

 

[Tawny]

well, then I would like to know if this family was living on our welfare benefits here. If the father of the family was making a good living in Dubai, is it fair for him to expect the US to support his family for him?

Kids need their fathers. Obviously it was something this shooter could have benefitted from, to have a Father close by to be supportive and caring.

Shooter?

 

[dotr]

So strange, one thing that i do not understand is why he did not try and convince the school to provide a place to pray?
The students there, or at least at his last school, seem to have been accepting of him, was there really open racism there, a university is one of the last places one might expect to treat somebody differently because of religion.
Was he interested in dating non-Muslim girls but was unsuccessful?
It is not uncommon to see cab drivers stop, whip out a little carpet, face east and pray, have even seen someone working at HD with a cloth over her head, presumably praying.. is it not possible to pray anywhere?
speculation.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...tate-attacker-on-the-first-day-of-school.html

In a 20-minute, wide-ranging conversation, Artan told me about his major in logistics management. He told me about his family fleeing Somalia when he was about 10 years old — including fuzzy memories of his native, war-torn land — and then about living for years in Pakistan and how much he enjoyed it. He bemoaned what he felt were western misconceptions about Pakistan: “It’s not like people believe.” He told me about his family’s journey once they got to the United States just a few years earlier, first spending some time in Dallas before coming to Columbus, which has a large and vibrant Somali expat community.

Artan spoke calmly but seriously about his acute awareness of what he saw as major American misconceptions about Islam, his religion. From memory, he ticked off examples of Islamophobia that garnered media attention, such as the police being summoned because a man in Avon, Ohio, was speaking Arabic in a parking lot or when a college student was removed from a plane after he said “Inshallah” in a phone conversation with his uncle.
He told me, in great detail, about the biggest struggle of his first day on campus: finding a place to pray. That became the central element of the feature in the Lantern, something that felt both important and relevant, enlightening and humanizing, the whole point of our new feature.
“This place is huge, and I don’t even know where to pray,” Artan told me. “I wanted to pray in the open, but I was scared with everything going on in the media.”

His tenor remained the same, but it was clear those examples saddened Artan and likely contributed to his fear to pray openly. He even told me the possibility of being shot if he prayed had crossed his mind. At the time, in the final stretch of a divisive presidential campaign, he spoke of his fears of then-candidate Donald Trump’s rhetoric toward Muslims, what it might mean for immigrants and refugees, what it might mean for those, like him, who practice Islam openly. How ignorance about Islam propels bigotry and hatred.
He said it is so important to travel and see different parts of the world, as he had. That if everyone could see the world with their own eyes, they’d be so much more informed and have less prejudice toward people who are different than they are.

 

[K_Z]

Neighbor describes how the family of 8 lived in a filthy squalor:

Neighbors said as many as eight people lived inside the two-bedroom property just two miles from the OSU campus.

Artan is believed to have three sisters and three brothers. Luann Carnahan, who has been living next door to the Artan family since April, said she was shocked at their 'dirty' living conditions after visiting their home to fix a leak.

She said their kitchen was strewn with dirty crockery and recalled seeing an old mattress in the basement, serving as either a bed or prayer mat.
‘They were funny about letting people into their home, but last month their house got flooded and they needed help,’ Carnahan told DailyMail.com.

'I went to the basement where the flooding had happened and noticed a mattress which someone was clearly living on. 'There were prayer mats as well as a cut off curtain, where I assume the family would all pray together. ‘I remember thinking it was strange because you really you shouldn’t be having a bedroom where there’s no smoke alarm or fire exit.’

When she left the house Carnahan said she caught a glimpse of the kitchen. ‘It was absolutely gross,’ she said. ‘That was no way to live and I’d never seen anything like that. There were plates everywhere, mess, like food and drink and it was just really unclean.

‘I continually complained to the housing association about the noise they would make, but that fell on deaf ears. ‘There would be people coming and going after 9:30pm to 10:30pm, and that would interfere with my children’s sleeping.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-went-rails-neighbor-tells-lived-squalor.html

Also, Artan's funeral was not at the same mosque he and the family supposedly attended. I think that's an interesting detail.

Abdul Razak Ali Artan's body was washed, wrapped in white cloth and prayed over as part of an hour-long funeral service that included dozens of people at the Masjid Ibnu Taymiyah and Islamic Center on Mock Road on the North Side.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/01/Ohio-State-attacker-buried.html

BBM

Numerous articles state Artan and his family attended the Abubakar Assiddiq Islamic Center, a mosque around the corner from Artan's apartment.

 

[CARIIS]

Neighbor describes how the family of 8 lived in a filthy squalor:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-went-rails-neighbor-tells-lived-squalor.html

Also, Artan's funeral was not at the same mosque he and the family supposedly attended. I think that's an interesting detail.



http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/12/01/Ohio-State-attacker-buried.html

BBM

Numerous articles state Artan and his family attended the Abubakar Assiddiq Islamic Center, a mosque around the corner from Artan's apartment.

link above
Artan worked at Home Depot

 

[katydid23]

Shooter?

My mistake. What should I call him? Stabber and car attacker?

 

[CARIIS]

I still remain dumbfounded - with what we now know a cop shot the guy within minutes

for hours did it it remain an active shooter. Why isnt the media questioning this?

A cop who kills someone gets on the radio - people had to know that the event was a car mauling and knife attack..It is so weird imo

.... twelfth person was shot in the foot by a stray round fired by the officer who killed the assailant

victims included nine students, one faculty member, and one university worker, while the remaining two had as-of-yet unknown backgrounds

At 9:52 a.m.,[SUP][1][/SUP] the attacker drove a Honda Civic

Initial reports had stated that there was an active shooter incident.[SUP][19][/SUP] At 9:54 a.m. EST, OSU sent out an emergency notification asking students to shelter in place

10:06 a.m Tactical teams, negotiators, a K-9 unit, and a bomb squad were dispatched to the scene

.[SUP][20][/SUP] At 10:19 a.m. EST, police reported that the attacker had been killed

scene was declared secure and the shelter in place order was lifted on the OSU campus at around 11:30 a.m. EST



According to a police report, before settling into Havenwood Townhomes, Artan and his family contacted police in 2014 after an animal heart was left on the hood of a relative's car.[SUP][8]

[/SUP] graduated laude with an Associate of Arts degree,[SUP][

[/SUP] enrolled in fourteen-and-a-half credit hours for the semester

the FBI appealed to the public for assistance in filling in an unaccounted time gap between Artan's purchase of a knife on the morning of the attack and the attack itself.[SUP][61]

[/SUP]senior FBI official said that investigators are currently working to verify the authenticity of the posts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Ohio_State_University_attack

jumbled Facebook post

scroll down for interview with victim

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-state-attacker-may-have-been-inspired-isis-al-awlaki-n690236

 

[CARIIS]

google images

Havenwood Townhomes

 

[Tawny]

My mistake. What should I call him? Stabber and car attacker?

I don't know. Attacker?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I don't know. Attacker?

Radical Islamic terrorist fits best.

 

[katydid23]

Radical Islamic terrorist fits best.

Our government does not know if he was a radical Islamic terrorist or not. They did read his own words where he claimed to be one, and they do know that he followed the instructions that ISIS has put forth---to use vehicles and knives to kill infidels. But they still 'do not know' if he is a radical Islamic Terrorist...:eyeroll:

 

[K_Z]

google images

Havenwood Townhomes

These look like very nice rental units. It's always very frustrating (and disgusting) when bad renters do not respect the property they rent, and damage and trash the units. The owners are never properly or fairly compensated for the expensive damage repairs and clean up from bad renters who disrespect the properties. Unfortunately, this is far too common in many low income properties, IMO. It's very hard to get rid of bad renters-- they have many more protections than property owners.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Our government does not know if he was a radical Islamic terrorist or not. They did read his own words where he claimed to be one, and they do know that he followed the instructions that ISIS has put forth---to use vehicles and knives to kill infidels. But they still 'do not know' if he is a radical Islamic Terrorist...:eyeroll:

Right - because maybe someone hacked his FB only minutes before because they had a premonition he was going to go on a murderous rampage.

 

[human]

And John Hinckley was a radical Jodie Foster killer? And Sqeaky Fromme was a radical ? Killer? These people have issues and they assign their delusions with some glorious name.In their minds they are special

 

[K_Z]

Our government does not know if he was a radical Islamic terrorist or not. They did read his own words where he claimed to be one, and they do know that he followed the instructions that ISIS has put forth---to use vehicles and knives to kill infidels. But they still 'do not know' if he is a radical Islamic Terrorist...:eyeroll:

I have to wonder how much that “microaggressions” social justice warrior training “class” he was taking whipped him up into a murderous and terroristic frenzy over imagined and manufactured grievances toward muslims. JMO.

 

[bluesneakers]

My mistake. What should I call him? Stabber and car attacker?

Ali Artan maybe?

Or OSU rampage attacker?

 

[K_Z]

Right - because maybe someone hacked his FB only minutes before because they had a premonition he was going to go on a murderous rampage.

Investigators will be able to definitively discover where that “I’m a terrorist” facebook post was made from, and which device, and precisely what time. IMO, it’s most likely he posted it from his personal cellphone (and investigators have the phone and his other electronics), either using the cell towers and his data package, or using wifi on campus or close to campus.

Several articles have stated that multiple electronic devices were seized as evidence from the home and other locations, and investigators are analyzing all of them now.