OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered - 4 Wagner Family Members Arrested #89

[Cool Cats]

Link isn't working for me. Any details? TIA

Billy Wagner set for pretrial conference in Pike County tomorrow

PIKE COUNTY, Ohio — Billy Wagner, the patriarch of the infamous Wagner family tied to the 2016 Piketon Massacre, is scheduled to appear in a Waverly courtroom tomorrow, Friday, January 24, fo…

sciotovalleyguardian.com

PIKE COUNTY, Ohio — Billy Wagner is scheduled to appear in a Waverly courtroom tomorrow, January 24, 2025, for a pretrial conference. The 10 a.m. session, to be held at Pike County Courthouse, marks the latest legal development .....

Wagner, who has been housed at Pickaway County Jail as his trial looms, is expected to face continued legal wrangling. His defense team has fought to have the trial relocated out of Pike County, citing concerns over the possibility of bias and the highly publicized nature of the case. However, these motions have yet to succeed, leaving the matter to be addressed further in tomorrow’s proceedings.

The legal proceedings have been marked by a series of motions and disputes, including a request to disqualify Judge Jonathan Hein, which was denied by the Ohio Supreme Court in December.

As Wagner prepares for his day in court, legal observers will be watching closely, as the outcome of tomorrow’s conference could have significant implications for the trajectory of this high-profile case.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Billy Wagner set for pretrial conference in Pike County tomorrow

PIKE COUNTY, Ohio — Billy Wagner, the patriarch of the infamous Wagner family tied to the 2016 Piketon Massacre, is scheduled to appear in a Waverly courtroom tomorrow, Friday, January 24, fo…

sciotovalleyguardian.com

PIKE COUNTY, Ohio — Billy Wagner is scheduled to appear in a Waverly courtroom tomorrow, January 24, 2025, for a pretrial conference. The 10 a.m. session, to be held at Pike County Courthouse, marks the latest legal development .....

Wagner, who has been housed at Pickaway County Jail as his trial looms, is expected to face continued legal wrangling. His defense team has fought to have the trial relocated out of Pike County, citing concerns over the possibility of bias and the highly publicized nature of the case. However, these motions have yet to succeed, leaving the matter to be addressed further in tomorrow’s proceedings.

The legal proceedings have been marked by a series of motions and disputes, including a request to disqualify Judge Jonathan Hein, which was denied by the Ohio Supreme Court in December.

As Wagner prepares for his day in court, legal observers will be watching closely, as the outcome of tomorrow’s conference could have significant implications for the trajectory of this high-profile case.

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Thanks for posting the details for her, had to take a phone call that was overly important or I would have posted it later. Anyway, appreciate you.

 

[Cool Cats]

Thanks for posting the details for her, had to take a phone call that was overly important or I would have posted it later. Anyway, appreciate you.

Thanks Caylee. I appreciate you too. And I am glad to see that other posters are coming back to this thread because this case is not over yet. It is outrageous that it is getting close to 9 years since the Wagner Crime Family did these 8 murders and still they are not all 4 in prison for life.

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[Niner]

Friday, January 24th:
*Pretrial Conference Hearing (@ 10am ET) – OH – Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie’s fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.’s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden’s baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) - *George Washington “Billy” Wagner III (47/now 53) (name changed [11/5/86] from William Emmanuel) [Jake’s father] indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (12/4/18) with 8 counts of aggravated murder, [Dismissed 11/27/24: (plus gun specifications on each)], (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 4th degree obstructing justice & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Was permanently moved (9/13/24) to the Pickaway County Jail in Circleville. Pike County (Butler County jail/move [9/13/24] to Pickaway County Jail).
Appeal case #2024CA000931 State of Ohio vs. Wagner, III, George Washington. Case Status: Open File Date 12/2/24. Action: Court of Appeals.
1/10/25 Update: Appeal #2024CA000931- Notice of transmission of record to Court of Appeals. Copies filed, emailed to counsel & 4 copies ot the Court of Appeals. 1/14/25 Docket update: State's application to appoint special appellate prosecutors filed. Copies filed, emailed to counsel & 4 copies to Court of Appeals. 1/15/25 Docket update: Judgment entry-The Court declines to issue any stay in this matter; Motion of the State for stay is denied. Copies filed, emailed to counsel & 4 to Court of Appeals.
Appeal Case #2024CA000932 State of Ohio vs. Wagner, III, George Washington. Court of Appeals. Case Status: Open on 12/9/24. Action: Court of Appeals.
Appeal #2024CA000932: 1/3/25 Docket update: Victim Appellant T.R.'s Merit Brief-oral argument requested. Copies filed RTD to Counsel & 4 to Court of Appeals. [see post #411 on page 21, thread #89[. Victim T.R. is asking the appeals court for oral arguments the end of March & a decision by 4/18/25 on venue change. 1/8/25 Docket update: Joint stipulation to extend Court's scheduling Order filed. Copies filed, emailed to counsel, 4 mailed to Court of Appeals.
1/17/25 Updates: Appeal #2024CA000932- Notice of appearance by attorney Kort W. Gatterdam. Brief of defendant-Appellee. Oral argument requested. Filed copies, email returned to Counsel & 4 copies mailed to Court of Appeals.
Trial was set to begin on 1/6/25 was postponed & no further dates.
Presiding Judge Jonathan P. Hein replaced (on 5/29/24) Judge R. Alan Corbin [health reasons]. Prosecutor Angela R. Canepa & defense attorneys Mark C. Collins & Thomas F, Hayes.
Case & court information from 12/4/18 thru 12/30/24 reference post #74 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...gner-family-members-arrested-89.732618/page-4
1/2/25 Docket update: Entry on Affidavit of Disqualification of Hon. Jonathan Hein filed 12/30/24 in the Supreme Court of Ohio. 1/2/25 Docket update: Notice of limited appearance for Crime victim, T.R. filed by attorney Morgan Galle. Evidentiary hearing on 1/3/25 @ 1pm.
1/3/25 Update: Mark Collins, attorney for Wagner, said he received the state's response on the "other acts" question to after midnight. That refers to other potentially criminal actions Wagner may have taken in the past - which he wants to keep those OUT of his upcoming criminal trial. In response, prosecutor Angela Canepa conceded that some of the bad acts evidence presented in the 2022 trial of George Wagner IV would NOT be used in Wagner's trial. Prosecutors don't want to engage much on death penalty given the previous decision to remove it is in appeals court. Defense argues it's not fair to start a case as death penalty then remove it later. On the "other acts" question, Judge Hein said those decisions will be largely be made at trial. He noted several times that he wants the case forward to "move the trains on time." Hein did not reveal a venue or date for Wagner trial.
1/3/25 Docket updates: Memorandum Contra defendant's Motion in Limine to preclude the introduction of evidence of other crimes, wrongs or acts alleged of the defendant under Evidence Rules 402 & 404(B) filed by Angela Canepa. Motion, entry & certification for appointed counsel fees filed. 1/8/25 Docket updates: Judgment entry-Setting hearings/pretrial conferences filed. Judgment entry & decision of Supreme Court of Ohio-The affidavit of disqualification filed 12/30/24 is denied. 1/9/25 Updates: Pretrial hearings on 1/24/25, 2/19/25, 3/21/25 & 4/25/25 all at 10am.
1/14/25 Docket update: Judgment entry-Setting subject matters for further hearings. Another pretrial conference/evidentiary hearing/trial preparation hearing on 5/30/25 @ 10am. See post #487, page 25, thread #89.
1/15/25 Update: The Ohio Court of Appeals denied a motion to stop the judge in Wagner's case from taking death penalty off the table should Wagner be convicted in the 2016 Pike County killings. Still pending with the appeals court: An effort to stop Visiting Judge Jonathan Hein from moving Wagner's case out of Pike County. The trial -- venue & start date still TBA -- cannot go forward until the appeal is cleared. See post #486, page 25, thread #89.
1/17/25 Docket update: Defendant's memorandum contra to the State's Motion to amend Bill of Particulars & indictment filed by attorneys Mark C. Collins & Thomas F. Hayes.
*George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 33) – Guilty of all charges on 11/30/22 & sentenced on 12/19/22 to 8 Life sentences without the possibility of parole to run consecutively for the murders plus 121 years on other charges. Appeal filed 1/26/23.
*Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 54) – 9/10/21: Plead guilty to a plea deal to Counts 9 thru 22; Counts 1-8 were dismissed. Sentenced on 1/3/25 to 9 years for complicity & 3 years for tampering; 18 months for electronic interception; corrupt activity 9 years prison. Also gets 12 years for firearms specs. All different charges all add up to 30 years. Minor charges run concurrently to major charges to get to 30 years, minus 6 years 6 weeks already spent in jail. Wagner will have no appeal right.
*Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 32) – Plead guilty (4/22/21) to all charges & will testify at the trials & sentenced on 1/3/25 to 8 life terms for aggravated murder. Max sentences for other charges including conspiracy for murder, aggravated burglary, corrupt acts. Instead, he is giving Wagner 32 years, with chance for parole after that. More detail: 12 years on the gun charges for Wagner, 20 years (concurrent) for the eight aggravated murders.
*Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 71) – Motion hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty to all charges. Will testify at the trials. Sentenced on 1/3/25 to no additional jail time & 5 years of supervision & up to $750 in fines .
Fredericka Carol Wagner (76/now 82) – 6/26/19: Charges were dismissed without prejudice.

 

[sunshineray]

Here is from my note:

charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/27/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity & 1 count of 4th degree unlawful sexual conduct with a minor.

and his sentencing
Hein issues sentence 8 life terms for aggravated murder. Max sentences for other charges including conspiracy for murder, aggravated burglary, corrupt acts. Instead, he is giving Wagner 32 years, with chance for parole after that. More detail: 12 years on the gun charges for Wagner, 20 years (concurrent) for the eight aggravated murders.


Does that answer your question?

2.5 years for a human life...HOW can the courts of Ohio let this happen!? THAT'S what I don't understand. Did the Prosecution refile to have Judge Hein removed after he did this, reduced eight life sentences for 2.5 years for murdering, in cold blood, each victim? How could the Ohio Supremes deny amotion now, after this injustice was done?

 

[arielilane]

@ToddDykesWLWT


Starting this Friday in Pike Co., OH, covering the latest pretrial hearing in Billy Wagner’s murder trial. Wagner is charged w/ killing 7 members of the Rhoden family along with Hannah Gilley in April 2016. More: #WLWT



10:11 AM · Jan 24, 2025

 

[arielilane]

Pike County Massacre: George "Billy" Wagner scheduled for pre-trial​

 

[arielilane]

@jamespilcher


Back in Pike Co. for monthly hearing for Billy Wagner in #pikecomassacre case. Unknown what to expect but judge previously issued list of topics - including possibly making this a bench and not jury trial. Starts at 10 and streaming on @local12

https://twitter.com/x/status/1882804089735860655

Court in session - visiting judge Hein saying he wants hearings to be productive. 2-3 subjects today including amending bill of particulars (charges), firearm specs, and motion to sever other charges.


Prosecution wants to change what's in the indictment based on previous evidence in trial, including the actual address of one of the crime scenes (which is in Scioto not Pike County).


Canepa says she wants to make the indictment more accurate based on what happens. Defense says the timing is questionable.


Hein will issue a written decision - says he needs to decide if prejudice against defendant. Wagners lived in three different places over course of events, lived in Adams County when murders happened. Moved to Scioto. Evidence destroyed in Adams but hidden in Pike.


Now on to other acts - or alleged crimes possibly not prosecuted by the family - can be admitted. In George's trial it came out family burned down houses, crashed cars, for insurance money and committed forgery.


State wants to show family as long-standing "criminal enterprise" that made next step to the murders.


Defense wants to wait for arguing and severing out some charges, but Hein wants to push ahead. Defense wants tampering evidence, forgery (of custody documents), interception communications (hacking into social media) charges dismissed and severed out.


Defense says Billy Wagner was not involved in those crimes etc. Charges 15-20 is what they want dismissed.


Canepa points out he still faces complicity and conspiracy charges and could be brought under that.


Hein says he's told lawyers he does NOT want this trial to go 10 weeks like George's. Says there was lot of evidence in last trial that may not be as relevant.


Motion from defense due in 2 weeks, and then prosecution response due 2 weeks after that on other acts/severing charges.


Now arguing over how court will handle jury view if venue is changed. Hein ruled it should be moved, but victim's family appealed and waiting on that decision.

Defense says jury view might not be relevant because so much has changed since crimes occurred in 2016.

In addition to venue appeals decision that's due, prosecution also has appealed Hein's decision to remove death penalty from Billy. Trial can't take place until that happens.


Defense asking for permission to get Billy a specific hearing aid during the trial - he's having issue clarifying words, it's not a volume issue.

Defense lawyer Marc Collins also asking about judge Hein's voir dire jury selection process.


Hein says he will be assertive and lawyers will know what they can and can't do very clearly.

Defense lawyer Hayes asks for help with logistics and possibly nail down trial dates even with everything on hold.


Hein says we're kind of "in limbo or purgatory whether you think we're being punished." But hard to schedule given the current situation with appeals court.


Defense's Collins going through the list Hein put out on possible issues. Doesn't mind remote witnesses, but Billy still wants to go through jury process at least for now. Two sides will come up with list of stipulations, or agreed upon facts.


Hein addresses Billy Wagner - Billy says he is legally deaf in one ear. Says he didn't hear much of today's proceeding.


Hein now brings up plea negotiations. Just saying he's checking on whether it's happening or not. Asks Billy if he knows the sentences of Jake and Angela. Billy says he did learn that.

Defense lawyer says the only friction happens with Billy on possible pleas between what Billy wants and their duty to negotiate and bring offers.


Canepa asks Hein if he would let them know if a plea deal would be abhorrent to him or if he could go along. He says he's never committed on the record but will eventually give hints etc.


Hein says he will tell lawyers what he's thinking but wants to make sure no errors made in trial.

Billy Wagner hearing​

 

[MTW2011]

@jamespilcher


Back in Pike Co. for monthly hearing for Billy Wagner in #pikecomassacre case. Unknown what to expect but judge previously issued list of topics - including possibly making this a bench and not jury trial. Starts at 10 and streaming on @local12

https://twitter.com/x/status/1882804089735860655

Court in session - visiting judge Hein saying he wants hearings to be productive. 2-3 subjects today including amending bill of particulars (charges), firearm specs, and motion to sever other charges.


Prosecution wants to change what's in the indictment based on previous evidence in trial, including the actual address of one of the crime scenes (which is in Scioto not Pike County).


Canepa says she wants to make the indictment more accurate based on what happens. Defense says the timing is questionable.


Hein will issue a written decision - says he needs to decide if prejudice against defendant. Wagners lived in three different places over course of events, lived in Adams County when murders happened. Moved to Scioto. Evidence destroyed in Adams but hidden in Pike.


Now on to other acts - or alleged crimes possibly not prosecuted by the family - can be admitted. In George's trial it came out family burned down houses, crashed cars, for insurance money and committed forgery.


State wants to show family as long-standing "criminal enterprise" that made next step to the murders.


Defense wants to wait for arguing and severing out some charges, but Hein wants to push ahead. Defense wants tampering evidence, forgery (of custody documents), interception communications (hacking into social media) charges dismissed and severed out.


Defense says Billy Wagner was not involved in those crimes etc. Charges 15-20 is what they want dismissed.


Canepa points out he still faces complicity and conspiracy charges and could be brought under that.


Hein says he's told lawyers he does NOT want this trial to go 10 weeks like George's. Says there was lot of evidence in last trial that may not be as relevant.


Motion from defense due in 2 weeks, and then prosecution response due 2 weeks after that on other acts/severing charges.


Now arguing over how court will handle jury view if venue is changed. Hein ruled it should be moved, but victim's family appealed and waiting on that decision.

Defense says jury view might not be relevant because so much has changed since crimes occurred in 2016.

In addition to venue appeals decision that's due, prosecution also has appealed Hein's decision to remove death penalty from Billy. Trial can't take place until that happens.


Defense asking for permission to get Billy a specific hearing aid during the trial - he's having issue clarifying words, it's not a volume issue.

Defense lawyer Marc Collins also asking about judge Hein's voir dire jury selection process.


Hein says he will be assertive and lawyers will know what they can and can't do very clearly.

Defense lawyer Hayes asks for help with logistics and possibly nail down trial dates even with everything on hold.


Hein says we're kind of "in limbo or purgatory whether you think we're being punished." But hard to schedule given the current situation with appeals court.


Defense's Collins going through the list Hein put out on possible issues. Doesn't mind remote witnesses, but Billy still wants to go through jury process at least for now. Two sides will come up with list of stipulations, or agreed upon facts.


Hein addresses Billy Wagner - Billy says he is legally deaf in one ear. Says he didn't hear much of today's proceeding.


Hein now brings up plea negotiations. Just saying he's checking on whether it's happening or not. Asks Billy if he knows the sentences of Jake and Angela. Billy says he did learn that.

Defense lawyer says the only friction happens with Billy on possible pleas between what Billy wants and their duty to negotiate and bring offers.


Canepa asks Hein if he would let them know if a plea deal would be abhorrent to him or if he could go along. He says he's never committed on the record but will eventually give hints etc.


Hein says he will tell lawyers what he's thinking but wants to make sure no errors made in trial.

Billy Wagner hearing​

I haven’t watched the hearing yet BUT…why is Canepa just *now* asking to amend the charges? (Specifically for the address part for the crime scene technically in another county). JMOO

 

[sunshineray]

I haven’t watched the hearing yet BUT…why is Canepa just *now* asking to amend the charges? (Specifically for the address part for the crime scene technically in another county). JMOO

Was the hearing on camera?

 

[arielilane]

Another reporter's perspective:

@pattinewberry


.#BillyWagner returned to court in the #PikeCountyMassacre case today and once again left without knowing when and where he'll be tried on eight counts of aggravated murder and 14 other charges in the 2016 homicides.
(Photo by @ldufour @enquirer.) 1/8



The place and start of the trial remain in limbo, awaiting resolution of two November filings in the Ohio Court of Appeals. 2/8


In a one-hour hearing in Waverly, Ohio, Wagner's attorneys confirmed they've broached the topic of a plea deal with him. "Right now we're going forward with the trial. Mr. Wagner indicated that's what he wants so that's what we're working toward," lawyer Mark Collins said. 3/8


Wagner's attorneys also indicated that he'd prefer a jury trial to a bench trial. On Jan. 14, Visiting Judge Jonathan Hein floated the idea of a bench trial -- one in which he alone would determine a verdict. 4/8

A bench trial is possible in the case because Hein last fall took death penalty off the table as a possible sentence for Wagner. (Death-penalty cases require juries.) Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa is appealing that ruling. 5/8


The other appeal objects to Hein's earlier decision to move the trial out of Pike County. Hein indicated Friday that he's not yet determined the new venue. "I'm hunting," he said. 6/8


Wagner is having a hard time hearing in court, his lawyers told Hein. He OK'd use of hearing aids going forward. "How much did you hear?" he asked Wagner. "Not much. Not much," Wagner replied. 7/8


Wagner is scheduled for a monthly pre-trial hearing through May. 8/8

 

[Cool Cats]

Another reporter's perspective:

@pattinewberry


.#BillyWagner returned to court in the #PikeCountyMassacre case today and once again left without knowing when and where he'll be tried on eight counts of aggravated murder and 14 other charges in the 2016 homicides.
(Photo by @ldufour @enquirer.) 1/8

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The place and start of the trial remain in limbo, awaiting resolution of two November filings in the Ohio Court of Appeals. 2/8


In a one-hour hearing in Waverly, Ohio, Wagner's attorneys confirmed they've broached the topic of a plea deal with him. "Right now we're going forward with the trial. Mr. Wagner indicated that's what he wants so that's what we're working toward," lawyer Mark Collins said. 3/8


Wagner's attorneys also indicated that he'd prefer a jury trial to a bench trial. On Jan. 14, Visiting Judge Jonathan Hein floated the idea of a bench trial -- one in which he alone would determine a verdict. 4/8

A bench trial is possible in the case because Hein last fall took death penalty off the table as a possible sentence for Wagner. (Death-penalty cases require juries.) Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa is appealing that ruling. 5/8


The other appeal objects to Hein's earlier decision to move the trial out of Pike County. Hein indicated Friday that he's not yet determined the new venue. "I'm hunting," he said. 6/8


Wagner is having a hard time hearing in court, his lawyers told Hein. He OK'd use of hearing aids going forward. "How much did you hear?" he asked Wagner. "Not much. Not much," Wagner replied. 7/8


Wagner is scheduled for a monthly pre-trial hearing through May. 8/8

I don't remember seeing less done in a hearing....2 Cents

 

[rescuemom]

I don't remember seeing less done in a hearing....2 Cents

Agree!! So I didn't waste more than about 7 min watching this and I had to listen twice to the response of victim atty's reply to judge who is being nice for a change. Then could not hear AC very well. Are we back to the jurisdiction of the crime scenes??? Does anyone else think that we on here know more about this case than the judge and maybe defense attys...don't know how long this group has been with him...just notice different faces. Surprised BW doesn't want a bench trial. Hein would like it done tomorrow taking no more than 6-7 hours to complete...smh. So he's giving hints???

 

[Niner]

just some docket updates

Date Docket Text
01/17/2025 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY JAIL ON JANUARY 24, 2025 AT 10:00AM
01/17/2025 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY JAIL ON FEBRUARY 19, 2025 AT 10:00AM
01/17/2025 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY JAIL ON MARCH 21, 2025 AT 10:00AM
01/17/2025 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY JAIL ON APRIL 25, 2025 AT 10:00AM
01/17/2025 WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM PICKAWAY COUNTY JAIL ON MAY 30, 2025 AT 10:00AM

Events
Date Type Event Judge
02/19/2025 10:00 AM PRE-TRIAL JUNK, ROBERT

03/21/2025 10:00 AM PRE-TRIAL JUNK, ROBERT

04/25/2025 10:00 AM PRE-TRIAL JUNK, ROBERT

05/30/2025 10:00 AM PRE-TRIAL JUNK, ROBERT


Appeal #2024CA000931
Date Docket Text
01/21/2025 APPLICATION FOR RECONSIDERATION FILED
Attorney: CANEPA, ANGELA R
COPIES FILED RETD TO COUNSEL, 4 MAILED TO COURT OF APPEALS


link: https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/eservices/searchresults.page?x=cOUd0JMS2ENOGrqd0fnhWw

 

[joe jones]

Agree!! So I didn't waste more than about 7 min watching this and I had to listen twice to the response of victim atty's reply to judge who is being nice for a change. Then could not hear AC very well. Are we back to the jurisdiction of the crime scenes??? Does anyone else think that we on here know more about this case than the judge and maybe defense attys...don't know how long this group has been with him...just notice different faces. Surprised BW doesn't want a bench trial. Hein would like it done tomorrow taking no more than 6-7 hours to complete...smh. So he's giving hints???

I'm surprised he doesn't want a bench trial, GW got the harshest sentence of the 3 so far, and at sentencing the judge said in a round about way that GW almost deserved his sentence because he went to trial versus JW and AW who cooperated, he must have forgot about GW constitutional right to a trial,
if I was BW I would be begging for a bench trial after the sentencing of the other 2

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I'm putting my faith in a jury. The jury will care about 8 murders.

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm putting my faith in a jury. The jury will care about 8 murders.

Yes!!!!

 

[Betty P]

I'm surprised he doesn't want a bench trial, GW got the harshest sentence of the 3 so far, and at sentencing the judge said in a round about way that GW almost deserved his sentence because he went to trial versus JW and AW who cooperated, he must have forgot about GW constitutional right to a trial,
if I was BW I would be begging for a bench trial after the sentencing of the other 2

Billy seems too entitled and stubborn to accept that he has to pay for planning the murders of 8 innocent people, killing one or two in their sleep. He’s such a hardened criminal that he’s able to easily convince himself he didn’t do anything wrong. He has no conscience. It’s why it’s so difficult for him to agree to any plea deal.

I pray the judge doesn’t acquiesce with a bench trial. Billy will definitely kill again, JMO.

 

[AVK_2020]

I'm surprised he doesn't want a bench trial, GW got the harshest sentence of the 3 so far, and at sentencing the judge said in a round about way that GW almost deserved his sentence because he went to trial versus JW and AW who cooperated, he must have forgot about GW constitutional right to a trial,
if I was BW I would be begging for a bench trial after the sentencing of the other 2

New here, but have followed this case since the murders occurred. GW would have to request a bench trial. He's not facing the DP (last I read), and jury trials are easier to appeal upon conviction, and he's already told the court that he wants a jury trial.

Billy Wagner indicates he wants to go to trial instead of possibly taking a plea deal

His delayed trial was supposed to have started weeks ago, but Billy Wagner will return to the Pike County courthouse for pre-trial hearing.

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