OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

[GoBuckeyes]

The phone number is poison control

Thank you for deciphering the pants for me. Does anyone have a screenshot of previous proceedings and her pants?

 

[Ann99]

MOO
This all seems like medical stuff. Could be RW is taking some kind of first aid classes for when at the horse shows in case of accidents ...
But why wouldn’t she have paper or a notebook to write notes on if it was important to learn.

Another line of thought is.... suggestions for medical emergencies in the jail. But no one could read that stuff from a distance upside down..
UTI
Mini stroke
Can’t breathe
Fire
Poison

Regardless, RW shouldn’t show up in court with writing on her pants, after all the “communication “ issues and warnings.
I do feel some sympathy for her. She seems so lost.

 

[evelezrn]

IMO, the writing might be related to her work on the farm with the animals. It could be horses, dogs, etc.

The writing may describe separate incidents. JMO. It
seems to me she tended to 2 or 3 sick animals and wrote down their symptoms, maybe spoke to the vet and wrote down instructions. Maybe one of them had an injury, etc.

As for "U.T.I. Go Nuts"....
I don't know about animals, but in humans, UTIs (urinary tract infections) can cause confusion and personality changes, especially in older people. So that could be why she wrote "go nuts" next to UTI.

Silvadine cream is usually used for burns and skin infections.
Could explain the words about a fire.

Maybe there was an incident in a very rural area and she had call 911 and tell the paramedics where to meet her.

Just a few thoughts. And all JMO.

ETA: If all these things happened this morning, that may be why her and Fred missed Jake's hearing this morning. Then didn't have time to change to fresh clothes before rushing to BW3's hearing.

 

[Ann99]

IMO, the writing might be related to her work on the farm with the animals. It could be horses, dogs, etc.

The writing may describe separate incidents. JMO. It
seems to me she tended to 2 or 3 sick animals and wrote down their symptoms, maybe spoke to the vet and wrote down instructions. Maybe one of them had an injury, etc.

As for "U.T.I. Go Nuts"....
I don't know about animals, but in humans, UTIs (urinary tract infections) can cause confusion and personality changes, especially in older people. So that could be why she wrote "go nuts" next to UTI.

Silvadine cream is usually used for burns and skin infections.
Could explain the words about a fire.

Maybe there was an incident in a very rural area and she had call 911 and tell the paramedics where to meet her.

Just a few thoughts. And all JMO.

This seems like a very good explanation.
It makes sense.
My “Jail Break” thought was not realistic

 

[Betty P]

Also the word “blast” “Fire” “Paint” and maybe “meetingplace”

Not sure about “meetingplace” but the word “meeting” is there

I read it as "meeting place" too.

Not sure about "jail break" either. That wouldn't apply to horses or first aid, etc.

 

[Merrygirl]

At the very end of George "Billy" Wagner Hearing Photographer zoomed in on RW's pants and all the writing. I couldn't read upside down that fast, but I sure hope they don't edit it out.
My 2 cents

 

[Merrygirl]

I don't have time to look at pics right now, but a TIA is transient ischemic attack and it can mimic a stroke, can also be called a mini stroke. A TIA can cause symptoms of stroke (for example, one-sided paralysis) but doesn't do any permanent damage to the brain. My take as a many-year medical transcriptionist. IMO.

Do the couple of nurses I've seen posting here agree?

Yes. Agree

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Does the Wagners still have the 4 people in a nursing home on their property, maybe one of them got sick or hurt? JMO

 

[IceIce9]

I read it as "meeting place" too.

Not sure about "jail break" either. That wouldn't apply to horses or first aid, etc.

And TIA, mini stroke, paramedic wouldn’t really apply to animals.

 

[Betty P]

And TIA, mini stroke, paramedic wouldn’t really apply to animals.

I like Johnny's theory that it has something to do with patients in the nursing home they own and operate.

Maybe she's taking instruction or something similar to work there.

 

[evelezrn]

And TIA, mini stroke, paramedic wouldn’t really apply to animals.

Johnny had a great thought about the nursing/group home. She could have has several patients with issues.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

As they sat Tuesday in the audience for the first of two scheduled pretrial hearings for two of the capital murder suspects in the Rhoden family murder cases, some surviving members of the Rhoden family wore bright white T-shirts reading on the front “Happy Heavenly Birthday Chris.”

The backs of the shirts read “We Will Never Stop Fighting for Justice” and “#Rhodenstrong.”

“We’ve given them the bulk of what they can expect,” said Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa.

“We don’t need a court order to tell us to follow the law,” Junk said.
Three Rhoden suspects appear in Pike Co. court - Times Gazette

 

[Yellowbeak]

Johnny had a great thought about the nursing/group home. She could have has several patients with issues.

If she had a previous TBI , I doubt she would be working with patients on a healthcare level. She would never pass any certification. JMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Please move on from discussing the writing on RW's pants. She is not the accused. Unless you find a message to the effect "there's a file in the cake" ... leave her out of the discussion.

Thanks.

 

[ColMustard]

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ETA: If all these things happened this morning, that may be why her and Fred missed Jake's hearing this morning. Then didn't have time to change to fresh clothes before rushing to BW3's hearing.

I think they were present at JW's hearing. It's either when he's entering or leaving, you get a brief glimpse just behind the defense table. No faces, if I recall, but the clothing matches the pics posted. At least one of the two, if not both, didn't watch the video again.

 

[Puzzles8]

Any thoughts on Billy having 4 lawyers. Two appointed and one from each practice.
First Defendant to have additional lawyers in court.

I think that is more for the Lawyer's firm's benefit.

Long ago, I read in one of the MSM articles there is a shortage in Ohio of DPQ lawyers. No, I can't cite the article so MOO. It is probably to that firm's advantage to bring in their associates and start to train them.

That training would also be immediately beneficial to the defense team, in that the more training their two associates have, the more they can help the lead attorneys wade through all of the evidence in this case.
JMO, MOO, etc.

 

[Deleted member 237253]

Closeup of Billy's scorpion tattoo from 1:07 to 1:17. In the video posted.

 

[StrangeOne]

I would say that the Pike County Court got a lot of complaints from across the nation when Judge Deering let Rita off with a slap on the wrist last week but when Judge Deering suspended Angela phone and written mail service he should have suspended he internet also, Just saying

Since when do jail inmates get internet privileges?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Prosecutors said the Wagner’s had vowed to escape if they were ever caught and seek retribution for their arrest.

One of the motions filed by defense lawyers was to prohibit photos of the deceased in the trial.

Both Fredericka and Robin waved and smiled at Billy as he stood to leave the courtroom. Robin said to her mother, “he saw us, he saw us!”

Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk told the court, “that would be premature. Obviously, we would not present anything that did not have evidentiary values.”

The defense is asking the judge to rule on decorum at the trial, for instance whether people can wear case-related clothing.

Lawyer Mark Collins said, “no disrespect to the victims of the loved ones who were lost, but the wearing of tee shirts, posters and signs of that nature we believe are inappropriate.”
Two family members charged in Rhoden family murders appear in court as case progresses

 

[Betty P]

As they sat Tuesday in the audience for the first of two scheduled pretrial hearings for two of the capital murder suspects in the Rhoden family murder cases, some surviving members of the Rhoden family wore bright white T-shirts reading on the front “Happy Heavenly Birthday Chris.”

The backs of the shirts read “We Will Never Stop Fighting for Justice” and “#Rhodenstrong.”

“We’ve given them the bulk of what they can expect,” said Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa.

“We don’t need a court order to tell us to follow the law,” Junk said.
Three Rhoden suspects appear in Pike Co. court - Times Gazette

Judge Deering set Nov. 1 as the deadline for factual motions. AC says they have given the defense the bulk of discovery evidence. JW's defense attorney agrees the amount is copious.