OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #53

[Loomis124]

‘I’ve looked on background sites, ancestry sites & marriage records in Ky, Miami-Dade Co Fla, Scioto-Pike-Ross & Adams Counties. Any other suggestions?

KY counties near Ohio. LN was from KY IIRC. JMO

 

[Merrygirl]

Thankx appreciate it. There are those people-search sites that you pay for and get all the public records on them. I wonder if they give birth and death certificates?

‘I’ve looked on background sites, ancestry sites & marriage records in Ky, Miami-Dade Co Fla, Scioto-Pike-Ross & Adams Counties. Any other suggestions?

KY counties near Ohio. LN was from KY IIRC. JMO

‘Not sure what LN had to do with AW marriage but as stated above I have looked at Ky. It was listed first. LN was from Ky but lived in OH.

 

[Loomis124]

DOBs of 4 Wagners:
GW3 - 06/04/1971
AW - 10/15/1970
GW4 - 10/06/1991
EJW - 11/22/1992

SW - 11/18/2013
HR - 04/07/1997

CRSr ?
DR ?
FR - 08/10/1995
HR - 04/07/1997
CRJr - 11/04/1999
CRSr and DR married 1994, she was 16, he was 19, no children born out of wedlock

CRSr and DR divorced 2007

 

[Loomis124]

DOB:
TWC, Sr. - 10/25/1972 (currently in prison) (convicted 2006)
TWC, Jr. - 03/24/1995

 

[Loomis124]

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‘I’ve looked on background sites, ancestry sites & marriage records in Ky, Miami-Dade Co Fla, Scioto-Pike-Ross & Adams Counties. Any other suggestions?


‘Not sure what LN had to do with AW marriage but as stated above I have looked at Ky. It was listed first. LN was from Ky but lived in OH.

CN was the one originally brought up and poster JohnnyBB asked who his daddy is. I replied Leslie N from KY then Franklin Furnace Oh. JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Off topic, but interesting and pretty cool. Dogs are much smarter than some people.

UPDATE: Possible Murder Weapon Found on Pike County Case - Scioto Post

 

[Loomis124]

‘I’ve looked on background sites, ancestry sites & marriage records in Ky, Miami-Dade Co Fla, Scioto-Pike-Ross & Adams Counties. Any other suggestions?


‘Not sure what LN had to do with AW marriage but as stated above I have looked at Ky. It was listed first. LN was from Ky but lived in OH.

There are two. Son and Dad. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

I've never seen or believed it possible for family names, birthdays, and addresses to be so deceiving and untruthful. These families have made a life out of lying. JMO

 

[Betty P]

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CN was the one originally brought up and poster JohnnyBB asked who his daddy is. I replied Leslie N from KY then Franklin Furnace Oh. JMO

Reminder, there's no sleuthing of people who have not been named as suspects by LE.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Reminder, there's no sleuthing of people who have not been named as suspects by LE.

I’m going to ask this question again and it is totally off the subject of what we have talked about,
Someone Is Talking In The Four Wagner Family, (Who Is It)
The BCI doesn’t spend a week wading through ponds and looking around cemetery, one of the 4 Wagners are turning evidence, Who do you people think it is, if you look at the news reports on the new searches of Flying W Farm BCI spends 5 day At Fredericka farm, they knew what and where to search and when WSAZ interviewed Fredericka she knew that one of 4 Wagners is talking, one more thing last couple times George 4th had trial he does not acknowledge Fredericka at all coming in and leaving the courtroom, she moves towards the front and waves at him but he turns his head and walks back to be transported to jail, I wonder if the family has had A fight, JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I’m going to ask this question again and it is totally off the subject of what we have talked about,
Someone Is Talking In The Four Wagner Family, (Who Is It)
The BCI doesn’t spend a week wading through ponds and looking around cemetery, one of the 4 Wagners are turning evidence, Who do you people think it is, if you look at the news reports on the new searches of Flying W Farm BCI spends 5 day At Fredericka farm, they knew what and where to search and when WSAZ interviewed Fredericka she knew that one of 4 Wagners is talking, one more thing last couple times George 4th had trial he does not acknowledge Fredericka at all coming in and leaving the courtroom, she moves towards the front and waves at him but he turns his head and walks back to be transported to jail, I wonder if the family has had A fight, JMO

IMO, none of the W4.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

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IMO, none of the W4.

Hey CA, why would BCI spend 5 days searching Frederick's property in certain areas unless someone told the BCI where to look, I just can’t see them going out there to look around without prior knowledge? IMO

 

[sunshineray]

How much earlier are we talking? Like are you thinking a hour or two? I'm going to have to start from the very beginning again and think. I wish we knew what Gary was doing that day and where he went. P.S. I hope I used the reply button right. This is trial and error so please bear with me

I think I remember reading that GR was at BBL at some point on his last day. Maybe he was helping CRSR and CRJR doing work there? Can someone verify my memory of this info? I cannot recall where I read it. TIA

 

[sunshineray]

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Hey CA, why would BCI spend 5 days searching Frederick's property in certain areas unless someone told the BCI where to look, I just can’t see them going out there to look around without prior knowledge? IMO

It's a very interesting question you pose Johnny. All sorts of senarios jump to mind including one of the W4 talking. Something spurred that search. Some new info that the judge agreed was needed and then was valid enough to allow another search warrant and more investigation at FW's ranch. Very interesting indeed...considering FW no longer has charges against her.

 

[sunshineray]

‘I’ve looked on background sites, ancestry sites & marriage records in Ky, Miami-Dade Co Fla, Scioto-Pike-Ross & Adams Counties. Any other suggestions?

Just searching for names, I come across other GWW's in Richland County, Ohio. I know it's a longshot but there may be family ties in that county?

 

[Ann99]

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[Berrybell]

It's a very interesting question you pose Johnny. All sorts of senarios jump to mind including one of the W4 talking. Something spurred that search. Some new info that the judge agreed was needed and then was valid enough to allow another search warrant and more investigation at FW's ranch. Very interesting indeed...considering FW no longer has charges against her.

I think it may have been RN. The new searches were close to her plea deal.

 

[Betty P]

I think it may have been RN. The new searches were close to her plea deal.

I agree. It was either RN or one of the defendants who became concerned after RN took the plea deal.
It's possible RN overheard or was told something about Flying W Farm that resulted in the new searches.

 

[I'mNosyRosy]

If you read the autopsy reports all the victims remained in the homes all day Friday and the next day Saturday the 23rd.... JMO

The bodies were transferred to the Hamilton County Coroner, a 2.5 hour drive on April 22nd. I remember the news story and footage of them being transported. I also remember reading that a group of motorcycles accompanied them but have never been able to find proof . I brought the motorcyclist up a few years ago and got laugh emojis in response .

At any rate here is a link dated april 22, 2016 that states they were taken to hamilton county ohio, or Cincinnati.

Names of 8 murdered family members released; $25k reward offered for information

 

[I'mNosyRosy]

If you read the autopsy reports all the victims remained in the homes all day Friday and the next day Saturday the 23rd.... JMO

The bodies were transferred to the Hamilton County Coroner, a 2.5 hour drive on April 22nd. I remember the news story and footage of them being transported. I also remember reading that a group of motorcycles accompanied them but have never been able to find proof . I brought the motorcyclist up a few years ago and got laugh emojis in response .

At any rate here is a link dated april 22, 2016 that states they were taken to hamilton county ohio, or Cincinnati.

Names of 8 murdered family members released; $25k reward offered for information