GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

[ohioexpat63]

the whole crjr thing is so sick. hard to tell what happened but imo theres more to that story. as far as where he was found, if his cell was jammed, if he was hit in the chest w stock if he was hiding or running. wagners hunted now they should be prey in court

.......and prison!

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Hopefully this link is okay to post. It is a lengthy story, but quite detailed. A few inaccuracies but most stories are like that.

The Pike County Massacre - American Crime Journal |



HAPPY EASTER PEEPS!!

 

[Niner]

for Frederika - update!

Docket:
03/07/2022 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Judge: DEERING, RANDY D
Event: CIVIL SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE
Date: 04/28/2022 Time: 01:30 PM

03/07/2022 JOURNAL ENTRY--A SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 28, 2022 AT 1:30 PM. AT LEAST 20 DAYS PRIOR TO THE SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE, EACH PARTY SHALL PREPARE AND FILE A PRETRIAL STATEMENT AND ALL MOTIONS IN LIMINE.
FILED AND MAILED COPIES TO COUNSEL/UNREPRESENTED PARTIES

03/07/2022 COPIES MADE

03/24/2022 MOTION FOR MEDIATION FILED
Attorney: DAVIS, MICHAEL A

03/25/2022 ORDER OF REFERRAL TO MEDIATION SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2022 AT 9:30 AM. THE SETTLEMENT CONFERENCE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 28, 2022 IS VACATED.
FILED AND MAILED COPIES TO COUNSEL/PARTIES; W/ATTORNEY CHECKLIST, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT MEDIATION AND MEDIATION CASE SUMMARY; COPY OF ORDER SENT TO MEDIATOR

03/25/2022 COPIES MADE

link: https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...lwoGoSIX4bItElYEsc56Pc-SqmhcjZqhJIxgVDrTPulZg



and a few docket updates for Jake:

02/17/2022 ENTRY GRANTING MOTION OF ATTORNEY MOONEY TO WITHDRAW AS COUNSEL FILED

03/03/2022 ENTRY APPOINTING COUNSEL--ATTORNEY KIRK A MCVAY IS APPOINTED AS TRIAL CO-COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANT.
FILED AND MAILED COPIES CDB

04/05/2022 APPOINTMENT OF SUSANNA L JACKSON AS ASSISTANT COURT REPORTER FILED
OATH OF ASSISTANT COURT REPORTER

link: https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...lwoGoSIX4bItBAafBfIrlPvnxsONmUWaRGnb8yjV0degg



and one docket update for Angela:

04/05/2022 APPOINTMENT OF SUSANNA L JACKSON AS ASSISTANT COURT REPORTER FILED
OATH OF ASSISTANT COURT REPORTER

link: https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...lwoGoSIX4bItFhHxZOjpHLWy5U-JaSeI9XbzaF2y0eghA

 

[Berrybell]

That gets said alot and someone even recently mentioned that maybe Hanna moved because of the grow op being there and a Wagner might say something but Chris and Dana were reconciling and had talked about moving in together when Chris Jr. got out of HS.

They being together would need a bigger place.

Note that it was when Hanna was pregnant with K that he bought the house. Obviously, this being the 4th grandchild just made it necessary to acquire more space.

Also notice getting the new house was around the time Frankie had his 2nd child and also his fiance was living with them.

This was the perfect time to give the family trailer to Frankie. Chris Sr. had 4 grand babies to house so he simply needed more room. That one trailer just wasn't enough.

These are the reasons Chris bought Dana's property I believe.

If Jake had tried to use cramped conditions or the grow operation to gain custody, Hanna could have moved in with any number of other relatives who I am sure would have taken her in. Grandparents, all the Manleys,
aunts and uncles, cousins especially Kendra and Kendra's mom, friends...probably a dozen people. Probably even Tabitha's mom would have done anything to help her. Oh, and she was dating CH who's family may have taken her in as well.

In the Other Acts Evidence it says Hanna was staying in 2 different residences where Jake had others spy on her and he recorded her. I always thought this was CH's place.

#8

https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org
Other Acts Evidence filed in Common Pleas Court on 2-22-21


Point is, she had many places to go with people who I believe would have helped her out - done anything they could to help her keep custody.

Pike County: Death in the foothills

But for Chris and Dana, getting back together seemed to be their logical next step. They had always loved each other, after all, family members said.

Chris bought her the trailer about a mile down from his home. And once their youngest son graduated from high school, they planned to remarry, said her dad, Leonard Manley.

The reason I am curious if JW was trying to make an issue out of it is, I know a lady here that her ex called CPS over similar circumstances.

 

[Berrybell]

Hopefully this link is okay to post. It is a lengthy story, but quite detailed. A few inaccuracies but most stories are like that.

The Pike County Massacre - American Crime Journal |



HAPPY EASTER PEEPS!!

Thank you for sharing this.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Thank you for sharing this.

You are very welcome!!

 

[Cool Cats]

The reason I am curious if JW was trying to make an issue out of it is, I know a lady here that her ex called CPS over similar circumstances.

Billy was drug running and maybe possibly drug running for Chris. The Wagners also stole and resold items and committed arson, made threats, possibly death threats, committed Mortgage fraud and Angie told Canepa about other crimes.

So if the Wagners had wanted to dish the dirt on the Rhodens their hands were tied, no real way to do it without the Rhodens saying things about them and then the Wagners would look like back woods stitches turning on their own and people would turn against them.

Would infuriate the Rhodens and give Jake less chance for visitation.

Regardless, Hanna had nothing to do with it. She and her mom had normal jobs at the nursing home.

From Other Acts Evidence

 

[Piffcat]

Hopefully this link is okay to post. It is a lengthy story, but quite detailed. A few inaccuracies but most stories are like that.

The Pike County Massacre - American Crime Journal |



HAPPY EASTER PEEPS!!

this is by far the best article ive read. it really drives home how evil and senseless these murders were. brings you close enough to the scenes without exploiting. i like how it includes all the rumor elements of the case and how dewine fueled the cartel fire. the ridiculous treatment of manleys. and it doesnt glaze over 8 deaths at 4 scenes. tells it as it happened like how each person going to the different location to notify the people of family deaths, but then finding them dead as well. thanks for sharing

 

[LeBlack]

Maybe I don't know how to search properly, but I have found little discussion regarding possible prosecution for statutory rape as motive. It's almost as good motive as child custody. IMO.

Sorry for my ignorance. I did not follow this after hearing about it in the very early days.

 

[Dudly]

Maybe I don't know how to search properly, but I have found little discussion regarding possible prosecution for statutory rape as motive. It's almost as good motive as child custody. IMO.

Sorry for my ignorance. I did not follow this after hearing about it in the very early days.

If JW threatened getting CPS involved, they may have countered the threat with saying they would turn him in for that. Just an opinion of mine…

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Hi, @LeBlack. I think most people considered that notion at one point or another. However, since both families were supportive of the relationship, even allowing H, J, and the baby to split time living between the two families, I think most decided that as a primary motive it didn't seem to fit.

Where it did seem to have potential is that it likely prevented J from suing for custody. IMOO, he knew that at some point someone (an officer of the court) would do the math, and he'd most certainly not gain custody and potentially face jail time. Thus, he was relegated to the informal arrangement that they'd had for some time, something that resembled shared custody without the formality of court mandates and documentation. That arrangement worked fine for him and his family, right up until he realized he was not going to win back H, she was really over him, and she was never signing over custody of the child.

It was at that point that the Ws began to construct their horrific plan. AMOO

 

[IType]

Hi, @LeBlack. I think most people considered that notion at one point or another. However, since both families were supportive of the relationship, even allowing H, J, and the baby to split time living between the two families, I think most decided that as a primary motive it didn't seem to fit.

Where it did seem to have potential is that it likely prevented J from suing for custody. IMOO, he knew that at some point someone (an officer of the court) would do the math, and he'd most certainly not gain custody and potentially face jail time. Thus, he was relegated to the informal arrangement that they'd had for some time, something that resembled shared custody without the formality of court mandates and documentation. That arrangement worked fine for him and his family, right up until he realized he was not going to win back H, she was really over him, and she was never signing over custody of the child.

It was at that point that the Ws began to construct their horrific plan. AMOO

Good summation, I agree.

 

[Piffcat]

i always found it extremely odd how quickly jw filed for custody after the murders. we are talking a few weeks here. it makes sense now, but this is not something a normal person would do. especially one who claims to have an amici cable co parenting situation. your daughters mother and entire family is executed. no ones knocking on the door trying to take <modsnip minor’s name> and yet your in turbo mode to head to family court. its just an odd sense of urgency for something so trivial in the place of a horrible murder. just like how they forged custody documents, then did not use them but made sure to keep them in a file of "important papers" very happy how stupid they are

 

[Covert Operative]

Hi, @LeBlack. I think most people considered that notion at one point or another. However, since both families were supportive of the relationship, even allowing H, J, and the baby to split time living between the two families, I think most decided that as a primary motive it didn't seem to fit.

Where it did seem to have potential is that it likely prevented J from suing for custody. IMOO, he knew that at some point someone (an officer of the court) would do the math, and he'd most certainly not gain custody and potentially face jail time. Thus, he was relegated to the informal arrangement that they'd had for some time, something that resembled shared custody without the formality of court mandates and documentation. That arrangement worked fine for him and his family, right up until he realized he was not going to win back H, she was really over him, and she was never signing over custody of the child.

It was at that point that the Ws began to construct their horrific plan. AMOO

Good points. It is strange the court did grant custody and did not seem to do the math. That may be something that would have to be brought to the court's attention on it's on though, by another party and challenged, not something the custody court would just get involved in or rule on without some type of filing being brought. That is all I can think.

 

[Covert Operative]

Maybe I don't know how to search properly, but I have found little discussion regarding possible prosecution for statutory rape as motive. It's almost as good motive as child custody. IMO.

Sorry for my ignorance. I did not follow this after hearing about it in the very early days.

It could be a motive, along with custody and they may have even threw in some other reasons in their confessions. Any challenge to them/him was not something they were going to stand for. opinion

 

[LeBlack]

Was she adopted out or was a family member able to care for her? This is so horrific IDK what to hope for.

 

[Berrybell]

It could be a motive, along with custody and they may have even threw in some other reasons in their confessions. Any challenge to them/him was not something they were going to stand for. opinion

I know it has been discussed before but I do wonder if JW on the birth certificate, if not that would have gave him a urgent need to gain custody.

 

[Covert Operative]

I know it has been discussed before but I do wonder if JW on the birth certificate, if not that would have gave him a urgent need to gain custody.

I wonder also. Even if he was on there and not being married he would not have rights until he went to court, I believe it is that way in Ohio and many states. The urgency may have been to try to do it before any family member had time to think about it, check into it and try to stop them or cause a hurdle for them. The family was busy with the funerals and dealing with the murders so they were not focused on that at the time. It's harder to undo something once its been done or at least that is my thinking.

 

[Covert Operative]

Was she adopted out or was a family member able to care for her? This is so horrific IDK what to hope for.

It is my opinion, a family member.

 

[Berrybell]

I wonder also. Even if he was on there and not being married he would not have rights until he went to court, I believe it is that way in Ohio and many states. The urgency may have been to try to do it before any family member had time to think about it, check into it and try to stop them or cause a hurdle for them. The family was busy with the funerals and dealing with the murders so they were not focused on that at the time. It's harder to undo something once its been done or at least that is my thinking.

I agree he felt an urgency to get in front of anyone else petitioning for custody.