GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

[Berrybell]

*Moderator approved court docs obtained via court view*

When I obtained this G4 discovery list at the beginning of Feb and researched it, some of the inmates listed were still in Ross County jail at that time or had been in Ross County jail. There is an incident report listed on this discovery also. My opinion, G4 had an issue with at least one or more of the inmates and some are probably witnesses. Perhaps why he was moved.

Wow, BW & GW made a lot of calls for approximate 6 month period.

 

[Covert Operative]

Wow, BW & GW made a lot of calls for approximate 6 month period.

BW tears that phone up. He is probably telling FW how innocent he is. Someone is putting a lot of money out on the phone account. Those calls are not cheap.

 

[Cool Cats]

Wow, BW & GW made a lot of calls for approximate 6 month period.

What stands out to me is how few calls Angela made. She got her phone privileges back on September 10th 2021 but only 10 calls are listed for her up to December 25th. 10 calls in 14 weeks isn't even getting to call one time every week.

Even Jake, after confessing to shooting 6 people, made 157 calls over 6 1/2 months.

It looks like, to me, that Angela has been cut off from her family, being blamed for getting the others involved. Like no one is paying for her calls. Truth is, she had all the influence and could have put a stop to it but instead encouraged it.

Phone calls listed from Moderated approved Discovery posted above:

 

[Berrybell]

BW tears that phone up. He is probably telling FW how innocent he is. Someone is putting a lot of money out on the phone account. Those calls are not cheap.

What stands out to me is how few calls Angela made. She got her phone privileges back on September 10th 2021 but only 10 calls are listed for her up to December 25th. 10 calls in 14 weeks isn't even getting to call one time every week.

Even Jake, after confessing to shooting 6 people, made 157 calls over 6 1/2 months.

It looks like, to me, that Angela has been cut off from her family, being blamed for getting the others involved. Like no one is paying for her calls. Truth is, she had all the influence and could have put a stop to it but instead encouraged it.

Phone calls listed from Moderated approved Discovery posted above:

It makes me wonder if FW is only putting money on BW & BW accounts and nothing on AW or JW?

 

[Covert Operative]

It makes me wonder if FW is only putting money on BW & BW accounts and nothing on AW or JW?

She probably had to sell all her Kunekune's just to keep BW's phone account loaded. ha

 

[Berrybell]

She probably had to sell all her Kunekune's just to keep BW's phone account loaded. ha

LOL

 

[Cool Cats]

It makes me wonder if FW is only putting money on BW & BW accounts and nothing on AW or JW?

You mean BW and GW.

Yes, I think this is what is going on, I believe Angela is left out of getting $ put in her inmate account. With Jake I'm not sure because he still made what looks like an average of around 6 calls per week over several months. Someone has to pay for that.

 

[Berrybell]

You mean BW and GW.

Yes, I think this is what is going on, I believe Angela is left out of getting $ put in her inmate account. With Jake I'm not sure because he still made what looks like an average of around 6 calls per week over several months. Someone has to pay for that.

Yes I did mean BW & GW, thank you CC. I agree appears no one is helping AW with her inmate account.

 

[Covert Operative]

There is still not a court date on the calendar for BW for April 4th or 5th. I was looking forward to that Daubert Ballistics hearing. I was hoping we may get some bits of information. Seems I remember in a past hearing the defense kind of left it open if they would actually do the shoeprint or ballistics one for BW.
When they filed those motions back in Dec 2020, for the Daubert's they did not have some of the discovery or JW proffer.
If BW defense does not go forth with the hearings, why would that be?
-They do not feel there is any actual evidence other than circumstantial that links BW to the weapons or shoes.
-They feel that the evidence related to the shoes and weapons actually helps BW in some way.
-They know there is not a snowballs chance it will not be allowed (seems they would fight it anyway)
-BW is going to plea.
Those are all I can think of right now. I guess they could have the ballistics one later since G4 was not participating in that one anyway.

 

[ohioexpat63]

I believe either C or D, perhaps both, is the answer. The evidence will be allowed and there is always the possibility of a guilty plea. Either way he is going down. JWs testimony, as well as the multiple gigabytes of evidence, will be enough. The shoes aren't so important. The weapons are icing on the cake. I imagine the LE recordings post murder will be revealing. JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

George
03/28/2022 JOURNAL ENTRY

The Court having previously granted the Defendant's Motion No. 76, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE REQUESTING A PRE-TRIAL EVIDENTIARY HEARING TO DETERMINE THE ADMISSIBILITY OF SHOEPRINT EVIDENCE AND OPINIONS, the parties have agreed that the "Daubert" hearing concerning the admissibility of shoeprint evidence and opinions would be held on either April 4 or April 5, 2022.

Subsequently, the parties informed the Court that the date of April 5 had been chosen by the parties. It is therefore ORDERED that the "Ðaubert" hearing pursuant to Defendant's Motion No. 76 will be held on April 5, 2022, commencing at 9:00 o'clock a.m.

Upon agreement of the parties, it is further ORDERED that the following motions are also hereby scheduled for hearing on April 5, 2022, commencing at 9:00 o'clock, or as soon thereafter as the same can be heard on that day:

Defendant's Motion No. 78, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR PROPOSED JURY INSTRUCTION" (re: testimony of accomplice)

Defendant's Motion No. 79, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR PROPOSED JURY INSTRUCTION" (re: punishment based upon "immutable characteristics")

Defendant's Motion No. 83, entitled: "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE"

Defendant's Motion No. 84, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL ALL BRADY OR INFORMANT DISCOVERY"

Brady Rule.

The Brady Rule, named after Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963), requires prosecutors to disclose materially exculpatory evidence in the government's possession to the defense. A "Brady material" or evidence the prosecutor is required to disclose under this rule includes any evidence favorable to the accused--evidence that goes towards negating a defendant's guilt, that would reduce a defendant's potential sentence, or evidence going to the credibility of a witness.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

George
03/28/2022 JOURNAL ENTRY

The Court having previously granted the Defendant's Motion No. 76, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE REQUESTING A PRE-TRIAL EVIDENTIARY HEARING TO DETERMINE THE ADMISSIBILITY OF SHOEPRINT EVIDENCE AND OPINIONS, the parties have agreed that the "Daubert" hearing concerning the admissibility of shoeprint evidence and opinions would be held on either April 4 or April 5, 2022.

Subsequently, the parties informed the Court that the date of April 5 had been chosen by the parties. It is therefore ORDERED that the "Ðaubert" hearing pursuant to Defendant's Motion No. 76 will be held on April 5, 2022, commencing at 9:00 o'clock a.m.

Upon agreement of the parties, it is further ORDERED that the following motions are also hereby scheduled for hearing on April 5, 2022, commencing at 9:00 o'clock, or as soon thereafter as the same can be heard on that day:

Defendant's Motion No. 78, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR PROPOSED JURY INSTRUCTION" (re: testimony of accomplice)

Defendant's Motion No. 79, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR PROPOSED JURY INSTRUCTION" (re: punishment based upon "immutable characteristics")

Defendant's Motion No. 83, entitled: "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE"

Defendant's Motion No. 84, entitled "DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO COMPEL ALL BRADY OR INFORMANT DISCOVERY"

Brady Rule.

The Brady Rule, named after Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963), requires prosecutors to disclose materially exculpatory evidence in the government's possession to the defense. A "Brady material" or evidence the prosecutor is required to disclose under this rule includes any evidence favorable to the accused--evidence that goes towards negating a defendant's guilt, that would reduce a defendant's potential sentence, or evidence going to the credibility of a witness.

Thank you, will miss it but hopefully someone will post a link afterward so I can watch it. Hint hint.

 

[Niner]

I see nothing has been updated on GW3's court site - guess he will not be having a hearing on 4/5/22 - ??

 

[altojack]

Is BW still due in Court this morning at 9am for Daubert Hearing regarding Shoe Print? I have him in my notes but things keep changing.

I now have my notes back from my sons home, left them there when I was unwell. I see I made a note for BW Daubert Hearing provisional date today, the 4th April.

 

[Niner]

Is BW still due in Court this morning at 9am for Daubert Hearing regarding Shoe Print? I have him in my notes but things keep changing.

I now have my notes back from my sons home, left them there when I was unwell. I see I made a note for BW Daubert Hearing provisional date today, the 4th April.

it was moved to tomorrow- 4/5. From my notes:
. Pretrial evidentiary (Daubert) hearing on 4/4 has been reset to 4/5/22.

 

[altojack]

it was moved to tomorrow- 4/5. From my notes:
. Pretrial evidentiary (Daubert) hearing on 4/4 has been reset to 4/5/22.

Thank you. Actually, my mistake, as I meant to say GW. Never mind, I think I need a nap, or something!

 

[Niner]

Thank you. Actually, my mistake, as I meant to say GW. Never mind, I think I need a nap, or something!

Okay - I see I made the mistake - and read it as GW! Nothing new on BW's court hearing. Just the last one on 2/1/22 - and no docket updates.

 

[Berrybell]

There is still not a court date on the calendar for BW for April 4th or 5th. I was looking forward to that Daubert Ballistics hearing. I was hoping we may get some bits of information. Seems I remember in a past hearing the defense kind of left it open if they would actually do the shoeprint or ballistics one for BW.
When they filed those motions back in Dec 2020, for the Daubert's they did not have some of the discovery or JW proffer.
If BW defense does not go forth with the hearings, why would that be?
-They do not feel there is any actual evidence other than circumstantial that links BW to the weapons or shoes.
-They feel that the evidence related to the shoes and weapons actually helps BW in some way.
-They know there is not a snowballs chance it will not be allowed (seems they would fight it anyway)
-BW is going to plea.
Those are all I can think of right now. I guess they could have the ballistics one later since G4 was not participating in that one anyway.

I vote C. BW could surprise me and plea but I really don't think he will.

 

[altojack]

I vote C. BW could surprise me and plea but I really don't think he will.

I don't think BW will plea, he's just going to stand his ground because he thinks he's hard.

 

[Cool Cats]

I don't think BW will plea, he's just going to stand his ground because he thinks he's hard.

Extremely hard headed, ask his lawyers.