GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

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What is going on in court today? Why is the defense trying to discredit the shoe impressions expert when AW said the Wagner brothers left that night with the shoes on an Jake has surely told about the shoes, or has something happened with the Deals?
I never could figure out why they wanted to have the shoeprint hearing other than they needed to try. They probably want to try to say BW had on the shoes.
 
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Ha!

Defense didn't want the judge to rule on motion 76 - to exclude the shoe print evidence and expert opinions. Defense wanted a transcript then to have arguments over it.

Judge blew them off, said he was going to rule and then denied the motion!

Motion No. 76
DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE REQUESTING A PRE-TRIAL EVIDENTIARY HEARING TO DETERMINE THE ADMISSIBILITY OF SHOEPRINT EVIDENCE AND OPINIONS
 
  • #504
GW4 looked awful worried when he left the courtroom, JMO
 
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GW4 looked awful worried when he left the courtroom, JMO

I noticed that too, after he lost his motion to get the shoe print evidence tossed out.

The shoes place him at Chris Sr's and you can't get a not guilty on murder charges when your right in the middle of multiple murders moving bodies. Doesn't matter if you did any of the shooting or not.

He would be better off trying to get life with the possibility of parole because I believe his trial is a losing bet. I believe he will end up with LWOP.

Just no way for defense to overcome this.
 
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Well - I'm 7 hours ahead of you all - and need to get ready for bed... hopefully there will be a video of the hearing posted tomorrow when I get up - or someone giving a "result" of the shoe print - in or out?
TIA on that info! :)
It might put you to sleep .
 
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Not sure why they are not there but yes there is not one. Not sure what they are going to do unless they can get one there soon. Bodziak is not cheap to be paying to sit around I am sure.
Maybe when the hearing was rescheduled from the 4th to the 5th, no one bothered to inform the court reporter?

JMO
 
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GW4 looked awful worried when he left the courtroom, JMO
He couldn’t get out of there fast enough. He was up and ready to go before the guards were out of the jury box.
 
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I noticed that too, after he lost his motion to get the shoe print evidence tossed out.

The shoes place him at Chris Sr's and you can't get a not guilty on murder charges when your right in the middle of multiple murders moving bodies. Doesn't matter if you did any of the shooting or not.

He would be better off trying to get life with the possibility of parole because I believe his trial is a losing bet. I believe he will end up with LWOP.

Just no way for defense to overcome this.
I did nod off twice when it first started from boredom and feeling bad. But I’m so glad Deering made the ruling today.
 
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Maybe when the hearing was rescheduled from the 4th to the 5th, no one bothered to inform the court reporter?

JMO

Court reporter's husband became ill and went to the hospital. See previous post.
 
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I never could figure out why they wanted to have the shoeprint hearing other than they needed to try. They probably want to try to say BW had on the shoes.
I agree .
 
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Court reporter's husband became ill and went to the hospital. See previous post.
I'm catching up and just saw that post. Thanks
 
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I have wore the same tennis shoes for years. I just by a new pair and demote an old pay for a yard working shoe or a work shoe. Going to have to compare them. Lol
 
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He couldn’t get out of there fast enough. He was up and ready to go before the guards were out of the jury box.
Ya... I bet...
 
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It might put you to sleep .

I did get rather bored until we got down to the nitty gritty bit. Sat with a huge grin on my face when Bodziak said a few times "can I just finish" when he got talked over. I like him.
 
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I have wore the same tennis shoes for years. I just by a new pair and demote an old pay for a yard working shoe or a work shoe. Going to have to compare them. Lol
Pretty sure we can add Forensic Shoe Analyst to our resume now.
 
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Also probably laying groundwork for appeal. I have a feeling if GW4 is convicted and sentenced, he will continue to appeal.

Appeal is mentioned in this Motion:

AS TO DEFENDANT'S MOTION NO. 20, ENTITLED "DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR AN ORDER DIRECTING THAT A COMPLETE COPY OF THE PROSECUTOR'S FILE BE TURNED OVER TO THE COURT FOR REVIEW AND TO BE SEALED FOR APPELLATE REVIEW, IF NECESSARY" Defendant's Motion No. 20 is hereby overruled and denied.
 
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IMO identifying shoe prints is a far cry from putting those shoes on a certain persons foot. MOO <modsnip>
 
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