GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

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I sent a "prison approved" care package for Reader
BBM
Can anyone do that? Sorry not much experience in this area so does this mean I can send one also? If so what can I send? Money to buy things?

JMO

I didn't put $ in his account, I sent alot of items I thought he could use.

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CHARLES S READER
Inmate#: A785880
Tier: HOS
Block: Z
Cell: 3
Toledo Correctional Institution - Sundry - 2021
2001 E CENTRAL
TOLEDO, OH 43608-2241

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The Closed Captioning on the You Tube video seems to work well too. JMO.
 
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Before I get knocked off by a tornado flying around just one more comment on that dictating sexual relations between George and Jake and wives and discussing and voting on it as a family unit.

What the heck happened to slipping out behind the barn with your wife for a few push ups? LOL Or maybe some sit ups? A little exercise never hurt anyone. LOL

Along with a couple of tokes of that MJ Billy was trying to peddle?

JMO
 
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I didn't put $ in his account, I sent alot of items I thought he could use.

Ship To:

CHARLES S READER
Inmate#: A785880
Tier: HOS
Block: Z
Cell: 3
Toledo Correctional Institution - Sundry - 2021
2001 E CENTRAL
TOLEDO, OH 43608-2241

Access Securepak
I can put money in what account? He has a bank account he can access? Sorry CC just real dumb here about prison rules.

JMO
 
  • #787
AC said at 1:14:52-54 that Chris SR was the first point of contact between the R's and W's. I think that means Kenny was killed last.

JMO

Yes! Thanks. This means Kenny was last. Otherwise it would say Kenny was the first point of contact. This solves one mystery involving Kenny.

I think it was Chris/Gary then Frankie/Hannah because they were next door and the Wagners had to wait for Dana to arrive home from her 11:30 pm shift ending.

Then on the way to FWF to hide the buckets, they stopped at Kenny's, who happened to live only a few miles down the road from FWF.

Kenny lived on Left Fork Road and Left Fork Road intersects with Camp Creek Road which is the road FWF is on.

If you drive for only 3.3 miles, about 4 minutes, from FWF you will get to Left Fork Road, turn left and Chris owns land down there where Kenny lived. His young nephew lived next door and Kenny used his nephew's address to get his mail.


Wagner's could think up any number of reasons for stopping by Kenny's, get acquainted with Brownie, learn about trail cams and his trailer lock etc...
 
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What I heard was that G4 and JW were hiding to try to shoot CRSR from a distance. Seems like that did not work out. They may have made a shot from a distance and missed?
Remember that hole in the front window of Chris's trailer we all thought we saw?

JMO
 
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im extremely surprised about the fake drug deal ruse.... the wags and rhodens must have been really tight and longtime friends for crsr to let his guard down after the incident with billy and the gun a week earlier. he never thought they would take it there. it also sad because if crsr took billys gun at the fight, that means he spared his life. could have killed him right then and there. why was crsr in his underwear if he was expecting company? or was that after he was debilitated. all 4 should burn in hell and it sounds like g4 was an integral part of this massacre. they all need the needle

Chris wasn't afraid of Billy and thought he could handle anything Billy dealt out.

Remember the R's would fight at a drop of a hat and would drop that hat themselves at times. Many articles about fights they were in, in the media timeline (once again thank you Betty for preserving everything for us).

JMO
 
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This clan-like family murdered 8 people for power, control over young children. Does it really get more heinous?
 
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This clan-like family murdered 8 people for power, control over young children. Does it really get more heinous?

No.

What keeps me posting is my anxiety of wanting to see Billy and George get behind bars in prison for good. For the families to get justice.

Also I learn alot about what is going on. Thanks fellow posters. Thanks for continuing to post after sooo many years!
 
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GW4, has a hard time starting awake during these pre trials, I hope JW messes up and lyes on the witness stand and the Wagners get what they deserve for a murder penalty, JMO
Those 4 Wagners is a danger to society !
 
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BBM
I thought it was said it was a family discussion in which they all voted on. Can you even imagine that conversation?

"Well George tonight you and T can........ or Ok Jake tonight you and EW can......


My sense of humor is warped, I admit it freely. LOLOLOLOL.

JMO
LOL
 
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i just cant get over this fake drug deal. i always pictured crsr scrambling for survival after a glimpse of the killers. its hard to understand why he wasnt armed regardless. i think crsr thought the custody drama was more betwwen hr and jw and eventually it would smooth out. there must have been a strong bond between crsr and bw for him to give bw him benefit of the doubt. g4 voting to kill is spectacular evidence even the most doubtful juror will see g4 for the coward he is.
 
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This case has been one major cluster. Now we add to the confusion... JUNK is running for Judge. What a hot mess! :eek::eek:
 
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Jmo

Drugs and money are powerful motivators. It sounds like the Ws used it to their advantage. I still don't understand why FR didn't hear the commotion. Do we know athe approximate time 3, 4 and jw went to ChrisSr?
 
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Jmo

Drugs and money are powerful motivators. It sounds like the Ws used it to their advantage. I still don't understand why FR didn't hear the commotion. Do we know athe approximate time 3, 4 and jw went to ChrisSr?

The time according to Jake was both before and after midnight. It is possible that the suppressor kept things more quiet and that Jake hurriedly ran next door while George and Billy stayed at Chris's.

Frankie and Hannah were in bed so my guess is Jake used a key. I think he had a key to this trailer because I think this is the family trailer he lived in when he and Hanna lived back and forth between the 2 families.

Being in bed means they weren't awake enough to go out and see the commotion.

Being in bed doesn't necessarily mean they were sound asleep.
 
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The entire timeline seems tight. Didn't FRs ex drop off her son around 2230? Say she stayed and chatted for 30 min. So, at 2300 all is well at FR. That leaves an hour, if Jake is honest, to at least start the murdering of innocents. DR comes home around 2330 or midnight ish.

I hope all of this is eventually made known publically. It just baffles me trying to make the puzzle pieces fit. I agree CR Sr and GR were first. I think FR and family were next and then DR. I like the theory KR may have known about the potential drug deal ruse, so he had to be eliminated.

This family, the Ws, are diabolic murderers. None should ever see the light of day.
 
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