GUILTY OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #68

[RAISINISBACK]

Sling shot could not be used in murders.
Order wasn't shipped from private seller until after FW made payment on 5-7-16. Murders were on April 21 and April 22.

She bought other items from this seller at the same time totalling $379.99.
Slingshot was $43.42

Motion to Dismiss Fredericka Wagner Charges

From what I recall Canepa saying, the drug deal was totally fake.

BBM

Ok But it was a good theory about those slingshots, right? LOL

I love that you always have the facts CC.

JMO

 

[Antimony]

If it was a drug deal, who was buying?

 

[Antimony]

New look......GOOD.

 

[Dudly]

If it was a drug deal, who was buying?

I also wondered whom was the buyer and seller. Could it be BW was just saying he wanted financial help with a deal?

 

[Antimony]

Somehow I don't see Billy approaching the man who beat him up, alone, at night, at that man's house.
Even with a gun, and Jake with a gun, unless someone was at a side window waiting to shoot Big Chris in the back with a rifle.

 

[Dudly]

Somehow I don't see Billy approaching the man who beat him up, alone, at night, at that man's house.
Even with a gun, and Jake with a gun, unless someone was at a side window waiting to shoot Big Chris in the back with a rifle.

Whatever happened wasn’t as planned apparently.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Somehow I don't see Billy approaching the man who beat him up, alone, at night, at that man's house.
Even with a gun, and Jake with a gun, unless someone was at a side window waiting to shoot Big Chris in the back with a rifle.

Once again I am going to ask for a link to this alleged physical fight between Chris and Billy. I cannot find it mentioned in any MSM, court documents or hearings. If anyone has a link to this "Chris beat Billy" fight I would like to read or hear it myself.

TIA

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

If it was a drug deal, who was buying?

Fake pretend lucrative drug deal. No one was buying. Just shooting. Billy went to the door. Jake and George couldn't wait to start shooting from the porch. Casing on porch.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Once again I am going to ask for a link to this alleged physical fight between Chris and Billy. I cannot find it mentioned in any MSM, court documents or hearings. If anyone has a link to this "Chris beat Billy" fight I would like to read or hear it myself.

TIA

JMO

This took a while to find. After a search it appears it is listed in the “Other Acts Evidence” see bullet #7 in image below from an earlier thread. Note: it doesn’t state who may have beat whom (if that occurred) or any details beyond ”threatening with a gun”.

Yes the video clarifies Leonard was unhappy with deputies over his son's truck not over a fight that weekend. Obviously fight happened before that weekend. We know Billy pulled a gun on Chris just a week (or less) earlier.

Other Acts #7
Defendant (Billy) threatened Chris Sr with a gun within a week of the homicides.

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[CIA Team Member]

Fake pretend lucrative drug deal. No one was buying. Just shooting. Billy went to the door. Jake and George couldn't wait to start shooting from the porch. Casing on porch.

Agree. We humans tend to make things more difficult than necessary; the need to justify one's behaviors.
Keep it simple.

 

[Covert Operative]

If it was a drug deal, who was buying?

BW may have given some names of who was buying or who they may be working for to make it more believable, or he may have just told him he would give him details when they met. If he gave many details CRSR could have had a chance to try to verify if it was far enough in advance. It could have been a fake deal to transport, move, or sell someone else's drugs or it could have been CRSR's drugs. She did not elaborate on any of those details.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

This took a while to find. After a search it appears it is listed in the “Other Acts Evidence” see bullet #7 in image below from an earlier thread. Note: it doesn’t state who may have beat whom (if that occurred) or any details beyond ”threatening with a gun”.

Thank you so very much Tiff3fr you are a sweetheart and I very much appreciate what the mods do on here.

So it appears Billy did in fact pull a gun on Chris per Other Acts Evidence.

BBM
Note: it doesn’t state who may have beat whom (if that occurred) or any details beyond ”threatening with a gun”.

I am still confused as to where the "physical fight where Chris beat Billy up" is coming from though. Can anyone confirm that actually happened with a link? Sorry to be so much trouble and admitting I may have missed the MSM article/court document/court hearing where it was mentioned.

TIA

 

[Covert Operative]

Somehow I don't see Billy approaching the man who beat him up, alone, at night, at that man's house.
Even with a gun, and Jake with a gun, unless someone was at a side window waiting to shoot Big Chris in the back with a rifle.

This took a while to find. After a search it appears it is listed in the “Other Acts Evidence” see bullet #7 in image below from an earlier thread. Note: it doesn’t state who may have beat whom (if that occurred) or any details beyond ”threatening with a gun”.

Article June, 2020 - AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed. Below is in article.

- The prosecutors also referred to an incident a few weeks before the murders that Local 12 had reported on previously in which family members claimed Billy Wagner and Christopher Rhoden had been in a physical fight.

 

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[LMDlong]

Thank you so very much Tiff3fr you are a sweetheart and I very much appreciate what the mods do on here.

So it appears Billy did in fact pull a gun on Chris per Other Acts Evidence.

BBM
Note: it doesn’t state who may have beat whom (if that occurred) or any details beyond ”threatening with a gun”.

I am still confused as to where the "physical fight where Chris beat Billy up" is coming from though. Can anyone confirm that actually happened with a link? Sorry to be so much trouble and admitting I may have missed the MSM article/court document/court hearing where it was mentioned.

TIA

I thought LM mentioned it to a reporter in an interview. But I could be wrong.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Article June, 2020 - AG withdraws from Rhoden case, new details about Wagner-Rhoden relationship revealed. Below is in article.

- The prosecutors also referred to an incident a few weeks before the murders that Local 12 had reported on previously in which family members claimed Billy Wagner and Christopher Rhoden had been in a physical fight.

BBM
The prosecutors also referred to an incident a few weeks before the murders that Local 12 had reported on previously in which family members claimed Billy Wagner and Christopher Rhoden had been in a physical fight.

Thank you so much for supplying this link. I am trying to brush up on the facts by reading all the MSM/court documents and watching court hearings in the media/timeline before the actual trial begins (assuming George does not take a plea and goes to trial). I realize I am being a bother but I missed a lot in the last few months.

Your research skills are excellent. Thank you for your hard work.

JMO

 

[sunshineray]

Hi everyone, I'd like to ask for help. I cannot find the full video of GW4's hearing that's being discussed, only small pieces or last year's hearing.

Also is a transcript of JW's proffer available to the public online? Or AW's too?

Thanks for any assistance you can give, it will be much appreciated <3

 

[Ann99]

Hi everyone, I'd like to ask for help. I cannot find the full video of GW4's hearing that's being discussed, only small pieces or last year's hearing.

Also is a transcript of JW's proffer available to the public online? Or AW's too?

Thanks for any assistance you can give, it will be much appreciated <3

if I’m doing it right this article should include the hearing.

Prosecution lays out 'other bad acts' by Wagner family that could be included at trial

WAVERLY, Ohio (WKRC) - The prosecution in the George Wagner trial says the family as a whole controlled, threatened and spied on the women in George and Jake Wagner's lives. It was part of a motion to get "other bad acts" included as evidence in George Wagner's trial. Caption: Prosecution lays...

local12.com

 

[sunshineray]

if I’m doing it right this article should include the hearing.

Prosecution lays out 'other bad acts' by Wagner family that could be included at trial

WAVERLY, Ohio (WKRC) - The prosecution in the George Wagner trial says the family as a whole controlled, threatened and spied on the women in George and Jake Wagner's lives. It was part of a motion to get "other bad acts" included as evidence in George Wagner's trial. Caption: Prosecution lays...

local12.com

Thank you Ann99!