OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #69

[Niner]

Guessing this is still going on - no updates in the court site....

Thursday, July 14th:
*Jury Selection Questionnaire Completion (Day 3) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 30) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).
7/14/22 (per transport of GW4) through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.
Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 6/30/22 & Jury Questionnaires (Day 1-3) 7/5 thru 7/7/22 & Jury Questionnaire Completion (Day 1) 7/12/22 reference post #578 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-69.623311/page-29
Warrant for removal from Montgomery County jail on 7/12, 7/13 & 7/14/22 @ 9am. Warrant for removal from Montgomery/Scioto County jail 8/8/22 & each day thereafter thru Friday, 8/12/22. Defendant shall arrive at the Pike County court on or before 9am.Warrant for removal from Monday, 8/15/22 & each day thereafter thru Friday, 8/19/22; the defendant shall arrive at the Pike County Common Pleas Court on or before 9am. Warrant for removal from Montgomery County jail on Monday, 8/29/22 & each weekday thereafter until further notice; defendant shall arrive at the Pike County court on or before 8:30am each day.
7/12/22 Jury Completion of Questionnaires Day 1: No info available. Continues on 7/13/22.
7/13/22 Jury Completion of Questionnaires Day 2: No info available. Continues on 7/14/22. No transport order on 7/15/22.
*George Washington Wagner III (47/now 51) – Pretrial hearing on 2/1/22.
*Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 29) – Plead guilty (4/22/21) to all charges & will testify in the trials.
*Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 51) – 9/10/21: Plead guilty to a plea deal to Counts 9 thru 22, Counts 1-8 were dismissed. Will be sentenced to 30 years in prison with no early release & has to testify against others at trial.
*Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 69) – Last Motions hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty. Expected to testify in the trials.
*Fredericka Carol Wagner (76/now 80) – 6/26/19 Charges were dismissed without prejudice.

 

[Ann99]

Does have FW influence in Southern Ohio. Idk.
Here are a few examples of Billy bad behaviors and seemingly not much more than a slap on the wrist.
Reading this article, it is astonishing that he could continue year after year with these type activities.
Wondering who paid the fines, court costs, attorney fees for all these arrests.
Why, in one case was there “ a lack of speedy trial”
Why was BW not restricted from owning a weapon after the Glock incident.

Father charged in Pike County murders had past brushes with law

( various snips)

Billy Wagner’s life in southern Ohio shows repeated run-ins with the law on various criminal allegations. One incident remains seared in the memory of the man who says he experienced it… remembers the summer day the man in the white Jeep flashed a handgun at him, his teenage daughter, and his teenage niece during “a bit of road rage” on U.S. 23 near Lucasville, between Piketon…
Billy Wagner was sentenced to 30 days jail time in the 2001 case, which was suspended in lieu of one-year probation, the records show.
He was also sentenced to a $100 fine and ordered to pay court costs — altogether $223.
And while the gun was confiscated and ordered destroyed, Billy Wagner faced no penalty under Ohio law restricting his future use of weapons.

But later in 2001, Billy Wagner was charged with three counts of receiving stolen property, court records show. Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk tried the case and is also trying the current murder case.
The judge who signed the search warrant in the stolen property case, Randy Deering, is today the common pleas court judge presiding over the murder case.
Among the items listed for seizure on the 2001 search warrant were a variety of mechanic and carpenter tools, a concrete saw, a portable generator reportedly stolen from a high school, dirt bikes, a compound bow and a cross bow.
Billy Wagner pleaded no contest to two counts of receiving stolen property (another was dismissed).
One count involved a stolen dirt bike, the other alleged he received various stolen property from several entities, including Carter Lumber and Eastern High School.
A judge found him guilty of the two counts and ordered him to 180 days jail time, which was suspended for a probation period of three years. He was ordered to pay $500.

In a case prosecuted by Junk that was dismissed for a “lack of speedy trial,” both Angela and Billy Wagner were accused of tampering with evidence. Existing records reveal little about the case, though they were both ordered not to contact Rocky Mountain Boot Company.

Three years later, in 2012, Billy and Angela were convicted of receiving stolen property in Ross County.
According to court records there, evidence seized in the case included “various items belonging to Kohl’s, Ollie’s, Wal-Mart, Sam’s Club, Super K-Mart, Hobby Lobby, Sears, and Lowe’s.” The pair were each sentenced to one-year community control and ordered to pay restitution to Sam’s Club and Walmart.
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MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light.
Too bad they could keep shopping at Walmart.

 

[Cool Cats]

Does have FW influence in Southern Ohio. Idk.
Here are a few examples of Billy bad behaviors and seemingly not much more than a slap on the wrist.
Reading this article, it is astonishing that he could continue year after year with these type activities.
Wondering who paid the fines, court costs, attorney fees for all these arrests.
Why, in one case was there “ a lack of speedy trial”
Why was BW not restricted from owning a weapon after the Glock incident.

Father charged in Pike County murders had past brushes with law

( various snips)

Billy Wagner’s life in southern Ohio shows repeated run-ins with the law on various criminal allegations. One incident remains seared in the memory of the man who says he experienced it… remembers the summer day the man in the white Jeep flashed a handgun at him, his teenage daughter, and his teenage niece during “a bit of road rage” on U.S. 23 near Lucasville, between Piketon…
Billy Wagner was sentenced to 30 days jail time in the 2001 case, which was suspended in lieu of one-year probation, the records show.
He was also sentenced to a $100 fine and ordered to pay court costs — altogether $223.
And while the gun was confiscated and ordered destroyed, Billy Wagner faced no penalty under Ohio law restricting his future use of weapons.

But later in 2001, Billy Wagner was charged with three counts of receiving stolen property, court records show. Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk tried the case and is also trying the current murder case.
The judge who signed the search warrant in the stolen property case, Randy Deering, is today the common pleas court judge presiding over the murder case.
Among the items listed for seizure on the 2001 search warrant were a variety of mechanic and carpenter tools, a concrete saw, a portable generator reportedly stolen from a high school, dirt bikes, a compound bow and a cross bow.
Billy Wagner pleaded no contest to two counts of receiving stolen property (another was dismissed).
One count involved a stolen dirt bike, the other alleged he received various stolen property from several entities, including Carter Lumber and Eastern High School.
A judge found him guilty of the two counts and ordered him to 180 days jail time, which was suspended for a probation period of three years. He was ordered to pay $500.

In a case prosecuted by Junk that was dismissed for a “lack of speedy trial,” both Angela and Billy Wagner were accused of tampering with evidence. Existing records reveal little about the case, though they were both ordered not to contact Rocky Mountain Boot Company.

Three years later, in 2012, Billy and Angela were convicted of receiving stolen property in Ross County.
According to court records there, evidence seized in the case included “various items belonging to Kohl’s, Ollie’s, Wal-Mart, Sam’s Club, Super K-Mart, Hobby Lobby, Sears, and Lowe’s.” The pair were each sentenced to one-year community control and ordered to pay restitution to Sam’s Club and Walmart.
#
MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light.
Too bad they could keep shopping at Walmart.

Quote:

"MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light"

Well more are now coming to light. Angela is giving up other crimes they have committed. This came up I believe at her guilty plea hearing. I don't think it's beyond the voice of reason that in the future, if the statute of limitations isn't up etc..., that another charge could be thrown on Bad Billy as he was sometimes called.

If it was a serious felony he committed.

Note they were accused of arson on their own properties but perhaps their insurance companies suspected the Wagners could have committed the arson and didn't give pay outs to them but there was no proof they set the fire - thus no arson fraud charges filed.

For some reason it is stated in the Other Acts Evidence that the Wagners themselves set the fires and it sounds to me like they put in claims that were denied. If the fires were determined to be say, electrical, and not the Wagner's fault, then it would be in the insurance claim and the Other Acts Evidence would not be accusing them of arson.

The insurance companies would simply have agreed it wasn't their fault and simply paid them.

I am speculating on why they were never charged with insurance fraud from the arsons.

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[Ann99]

Quote:

"MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light"

Well more are now coming to light. Angela is giving up other crimes they have committed. This came up I believe at her guilty plea hearing. I don't think it's beyond the voice of reason that in the future, if the statute of limitations isn't up etc..., that another charge could be thrown on Bad Billy as he was sometimes called.

If it was a serious felony he committed.

Note they were accused of arson on their own properties but perhaps their insurance companies suspected the Wagners could have committed the arson and didn't give pay outs to them but there was no proof they set the fire - thus no arson fraud charges filed.

For some reason it is stated in the Other Acts Evidence that the Wagners themselves set the fires and it sounds to me like they put in claims that were denied. If the fires were determined to be say, electrical, and not the Wagner's fault, then it would be in the insurance claim and the Other Acts Evidence would not be accusing them of arson.

The insurance companies would simply have agreed it wasn't their fault and simply paid them.

I am speculating on why they were never charged with insurance fraud from the arsons.

MO
I think if there ever comes a day when we get a comprehensive list of all crimes and ‘possible crimes’ as in all the fires, we will be astonished and will see that the W’s were so busy committing crime over the span of decades that law enforcement community or the legal system would have noticed.
Clever Electrical fires seemed to be a specialty. MO

 

[Berrybell]

Quote:

"MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light"

Well more are now coming to light. Angela is giving up other crimes they have committed. This came up I believe at her guilty plea hearing. I don't think it's beyond the voice of reason that in the future, if the statute of limitations isn't up etc..., that another charge could be thrown on Bad Billy as he was sometimes called.

If it was a serious felony he committed.

Note they were accused of arson on their own properties but perhaps their insurance companies suspected the Wagners could have committed the arson and didn't give pay outs to them but there was no proof they set the fire - thus no arson fraud charges filed.

For some reason it is stated in the Other Acts Evidence that the Wagners themselves set the fires and it sounds to me like they put in claims that were denied. If the fires were determined to be say, electrical, and not the Wagner's fault, then it would be in the insurance claim and the Other Acts Evidence would not be accusing them of arson.

The insurance companies would simply have agreed it wasn't their fault and simply paid them.

I am speculating on why they were never charged with insurance fraud from the arsons.

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George Wagner IV Other Acts Evidence | PDF

MOO I suspect there may be cold cases and murders solved after AW proffer is heard.

 

[Piffcat]

MOO I suspect there may be cold cases and murders solved after AW proffer is heard.

i really hope so because i cannot figure out why angela got that deal.even if she wasnt there, which ill never believe, she was the impetus for an entire family 8 people to be wiped off the face of the earth. any senetence which included a number is a slap in the face. life without parole or death should have been the only options.

 

[Antimony]

Since Angela and Jake pled guilty, and testified under oath about their parts in the murders and gave witness to the actions of George and Billy, could the prosecution be holding evidence of further crimes committed or possibly lies in their proffer? Do the rules of discovery say that you have to tip your hand to someone already that has confessed?

 

[Ann99]

MOO I suspect there may be cold cases and murders solved after AW proffer is heard.

And since it has long been thought that AW and FW didn’t get along very well, maybe AW has had a few interesting things to say regarding FW.

 

[Ann99]

i really hope so because i cannot figure out why angela got that deal.even if she wasnt there, which ill never believe, she was the impetus for an entire family 8 people to be wiped off the face of the earth. any senetence which included a number is a slap in the face. life without parole or death should have been the only options.

I agree that AW deserves LWOP, but think of all the information she could provide and should have provided to LE about the entire Wagner Clan, and possibly many other people who have flown under the radar. She could have dropped quire a few bombshells.

 

[Niner]

So... nothing on the jury questionnaire final hearing??

I have next 8/8 for jury voir dire.

 

[Berrybell]

And since it has long been thought that AW and FW didn’t get along very well, maybe AW has had a few interesting things to say regarding FW.

That is opinion too, it is going to be interesting to know what AW confessed to and who she threw under the bus to get the 30 year deal.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Quote:

"MO, the above is probably a small sampling of their activities. Imagine there could be more that neve came to light"

Well more are now coming to light. Angela is giving up other crimes they have committed. This came up I believe at her guilty plea hearing. I don't think it's beyond the voice of reason that in the future, if the statute of limitations isn't up etc..., that another charge could be thrown on Bad Billy as he was sometimes called.

If it was a serious felony he committed.

Note they were accused of arson on their own properties but perhaps their insurance companies suspected the Wagners could have committed the arson and didn't give pay outs to them but there was no proof they set the fire - thus no arson fraud charges filed.

For some reason it is stated in the Other Acts Evidence that the Wagners themselves set the fires and it sounds to me like they put in claims that were denied. If the fires were determined to be say, electrical, and not the Wagner's fault, then it would be in the insurance claim and the Other Acts Evidence would not be accusing them of arson.

The insurance companies would simply have agreed it wasn't their fault and simply paid them.

I am speculating on why they were never charged with insurance fraud from the arsons.

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George Wagner IV Other Acts Evidence | PDF

Depends on the fire chief what the determined cause was. No insurance will pay out on any claim without a fire or police report on something like that where there is a possibility of criminal activity by the claimant. Natural disasters require a FEMA report I think or a on site visit from an independent insurance adjuster who is generally called in on the claim to assess and estimate the damage.

Someone on here who works for an insurance company may know more about it.

JMO

 

[Piffcat]

I agree that AW deserves LWOP, but think of all the information she could provide and should have provided to LE about the entire Wagner Clan, and possibly many other people who have flown under the radar. She could have dropped quire a few bombshells.

i agree that i hope she gave something good up and maybe. but ppl like angela always get more then they give in situations like this. she understood that she couldnt win at trial with jakes plea. probly got heads up on that too. so she makes a deal to testify against her son and husband. with all the wagners interference from the start, the fewer trials the better. its sad because they all deserve one. but legal outcomes are bonkers these days crazy unexplainable is done by juries. having 2 in the bag nailed the door shut im happy overall. but angela deserved what she had coming, and a date to look forward to is alot different then the hopeless obvilioun lwop she deserves. or on death row where the best she can hope for is commute to lwop. she does not deserve something to look forward to needs her soul crushed. as if she had one,.

 

[Cool Cats]

i agree that i hope she gave something good up and maybe. but ppl like angela always get more then they give in situations like this. she understood that she couldnt win at trial with jakes plea. probly got heads up on that too. so she makes a deal to testify against her son and husband. with all the wagners interference from the start, the fewer trials the better. its sad because they all deserve one. but legal outcomes are bonkers these days crazy unexplainable *advertiser censored* is done by juries. having 2 in the bag nailed the door shut im happy overall. but angela deserved what she had coming, and a date to look forward to is alot different then the hopeless obvilioun lwop she deserves. or on death row where the best she can hope for is commute to lwop. she does not deserve something to look forward to needs her soul crushed. as if she had one,.

Angela was jailed at age 48. She serves 30 years - no early relese, no parole, which started November 13th, 2018.

She gets out at age 78 in the year 2048.

I think alot of us wish she had gotten LWOP parole. I think she was the main reason the murders happened, that she herself was pushing for custody and encouraging Jake to get custody in the most extreme way. She is the one that showed Jake Hanna's Facebook message that she would never sign papers and she bought murder kit items including shoes and forged custody documents naming her the legal guardian if Jake died fighting the Rhodens.

I still think she deserves LWOP because I think she was the mastermind, but I'm a little less upset about it now when I think about her not leaving prison until she is 78 years old.

George, on the other hand started his sentence at age 27 and if he got Angela's deal he would be released at age 57 and that just is not long enough. I have been worried about him getting a 30 year deal and I think that could happen only if he is found not guilty of the murders.

I want to see this jury convict him of the murders of which there is much evidence that he is guilty, then rest assured he will get LWOP.

IF, IF, the prosecution did offer him the 30 year plea deal he should have taken it. By going to trial I bet he will be convicted of murder and get what he deserves, LWOP.

At the last hearing a prosecutor told the judge there were 3 or 4 aspects to the case and that Angela and Jake implicated George in every one of them. I plan to go back and listen to get his direct quote about it. This implicates George in the murders.

 

[Piffcat]

Angela was jailed at age 48. She serves 30 years - no early relese, no parole, which started November 13th, 2018.

She gets out at age 78 in the year 2048.

I think alot of us wish she had gotten LWOP parole. I think she was the main reason the murders happened, that she herself was pushing for custody and encouraging Jake to get custody in the most extreme way. She is the one that showed Jake Hanna's Facebook message that she would never sign papers and she bought murder kit items including shoes and forged custody documents naming her the legal guardian if Jake died fighting the Rhodens.

I still think she deserves LWOP because I think she was the mastermind, but I'm a little less upset about it now when I think about her not leaving prison until she is 78 years old.

George, on the other hand started his sentence at age 27 and if he got Angela's deal he would be released at age 57 and that just is not long enough. I have been worried about him getting a 30 year deal and I think that could happen only if he is found not guilty of the murders.

I want to see this jury convict him of the murders of which there is much evidence that he is guilty, then rest assured he will get LWOP.

IF, IF, the prosecution did offer him the 30 year plea deal he should have taken it. By going to trial I bet he will be convicted of murder and get what he deserves, LWOP.

At the last hearing a prosecutor told the judge there were 3 or 4 aspects to the case and that Angela and Jake implicated George in every one of them. I plan to go back and listen to get his direct quote about it. This implicates George in the murders.

i understand all of the positives , rationalizations, and "overall better" arguments yes that is all true.

what is also true is that nothing angela said is going to get anyone ELSE in trouble who hasnt been indicted. after jakes plea and all the evidence he gave the state, more cooperation isnt going to lead to any increase in punishment for the 4 people involved in this heinous crime. jake has life. g4 will be convicted. b3 will be convicted. all of that was possible and more then likely guaranteed without any deal from angela. angela actually commited more over acts in this conspiracy then the rest of them. her motive and means were the strongest, her sick mind drove this.

what is she adding to this prosecution what contingency for g3 or g4 does she protect against? life in prison is life in prison.any statement of further incrimination for b3 or g4 is moot for punishment. the only advantage to additional bad acts or charges against b3 or g4 would be if somehow they overturn a conviction on appeal and then we could try them with new charges using these "nuggets" angela included to save her life.

there is a net zero effect from her deal when it comes to punishment for these 4. shes not going to give up anyone else and definitly not freddy imo. she gave zero consideration for mercy to the victims in fact she enflamed one that could have been avoided the rhodens did not have to die. angela read that message of hanna challenging her, not being intimidated or controlled and she could not have that.

so she took to her emo creepy son like that brain worm in startrek. wouldnt let it go until hanna paid for daring to stand up to this gremlin. even jake might feel remorse imo. MAYBE with non psycopath parents, he would not have resorted to mass murder. he is culpable, all of them are. they should all die.
but angela never for one second felt anything. as soon as she got arrested the plotting began. AND IT WORKED.

i dont care if shes 97 when she gets out of jail. she has something to look forward to, a day or situation when she is free and ALIVE. none of the rhodens got this consideration from her. and now this becomes an extended stay prison term, but not the end of her life. not her hope. shes already counting down the days to freedom. she deserves none of that. its a tragic injustice and partially confirms her arrogant attitude in out boxing the prosecution in this entire situation. never apologized never even pretended to feel bad.

she should die period.

 

[Cool Cats]

i understand all of the positives , rationalizations, and "overall better" arguments yes that is all true.

what is also true is that nothing angela said is going to get anyone ELSE in trouble who hasnt been indicted. after jakes plea and all the evidence he gave the state, more cooperation isnt going to lead to any increase in punishment for the 4 people involved in this heinous crime. jake has life. g4 will be convicted. b3 will be convicted. all of that was possible and more then likely guaranteed without any deal from angela. angela actually commited more over acts in this conspiracy then the rest of them. her motive and means were the strongest, her sick mind drove this.

what is she adding to this prosecution what contingency for g3 or g4 does she protect against? life in prison is life in prison.any statement of further incrimination for b3 or g4 is moot for punishment. the only advantage to additional bad acts or charges against b3 or g4 would be if somehow they overturn a conviction on appeal and then we could try them with new charges using these "nuggets" angela included to save her life.

there is a net zero effect from her deal when it comes to punishment for these 4. shes not going to give up anyone else and definitly not freddy imo. she gave zero consideration for mercy to the victims in fact she enflamed one that could have been avoided the rhodens did not have to die. angela read that message of hanna challenging her, not being intimidated or controlled and she could not have that.

so she took to her emo creepy son like that brain worm in startrek. wouldnt let it go until hanna paid for daring to stand up to this gremlin. even jake might feel remorse imo. MAYBE with non psycopath parents, he would not have resorted to mass murder. he is culpable, all of them are. they should all die.
but angela never for one second felt anything. as soon as she got arrested the plotting began. AND IT WORKED.

i dont care if shes 97 when she gets out of jail. she has something to look forward to, a day or situation when she is free and ALIVE. none of the rhodens got this consideration from her. and now this becomes an extended stay prison term, but not the end of her life. not her hope. shes already counting down the days to freedom. she deserves none of that. its a tragic injustice and partially confirms her arrogant attitude in out boxing the prosecution in this entire situation. never apologized never even pretended to feel bad.

she should die period.

Your Quote that "hit the nail on the head" .........

"i dont care if shes 97 when she gets out of jail. she has something to look forward to, a day or situation when she is free and ALIVE. none of the rhodens got this consideration from her. and now this becomes an extended stay prison term, but not the end of her life. not her hope. shes already counting down the days to freedom. she deserves none of that. its a tragic injustice and partially confirms her arrogant attitude in out boxing the prosecution in this entire situation. never apologized never even pretended to feel bad."

Rhoden Family Member Quote:

"I see a woman with no sympathy, no remorse," she said, commenting on the sentence. "She's getting 30 years more than what our family gets,"
Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Rhoden family murder case

 

[Berrybell]

i understand all of the positives , rationalizations, and "overall better" arguments yes that is all true.

what is also true is that nothing angela said is going to get anyone ELSE in trouble who hasnt been indicted. after jakes plea and all the evidence he gave the state, more cooperation isnt going to lead to any increase in punishment for the 4 people involved in this heinous crime. jake has life. g4 will be convicted. b3 will be convicted. all of that was possible and more then likely guaranteed without any deal from angela. angela actually commited more over acts in this conspiracy then the rest of them. her motive and means were the strongest, her sick mind drove this.

what is she adding to this prosecution what contingency for g3 or g4 does she protect against? life in prison is life in prison.any statement of further incrimination for b3 or g4 is moot for punishment. the only advantage to additional bad acts or charges against b3 or g4 would be if somehow they overturn a conviction on appeal and then we could try them with new charges using these "nuggets" angela included to save her life.

there is a net zero effect from her deal when it comes to punishment for these 4. shes not going to give up anyone else and definitly not freddy imo. she gave zero consideration for mercy to the victims in fact she enflamed one that could have been avoided the rhodens did not have to die. angela read that message of hanna challenging her, not being intimidated or controlled and she could not have that.

so she took to her emo creepy son like that brain worm in startrek. wouldnt let it go until hanna paid for daring to stand up to this gremlin. even jake might feel remorse imo. MAYBE with non psycopath parents, he would not have resorted to mass murder. he is culpable, all of them are. they should all die.
but angela never for one second felt anything. as soon as she got arrested the plotting began. AND IT WORKED.

i dont care if shes 97 when she gets out of jail. she has something to look forward to, a day or situation when she is free and ALIVE. none of the rhodens got this consideration from her. and now this becomes an extended stay prison term, but not the end of her life. not her hope. shes already counting down the days to freedom. she deserves none of that. its a tragic injustice and partially confirms her arrogant attitude in out boxing the prosecution in this entire situation. never apologized never even pretended to feel bad.

she should die period.

I too resent the fact she has a date to look forward too, but I console myself with the fact she will be released into a world that went on with her, no one to love or care about her. AW sons and husband will still be locked up and the grandkids she want so much control over will HATE her!!

 

[Jbootneil]

I’d trial for GW4 still for 8/29? How’s jury seating going

 

[Cool Cats]

I’d trial for GW4 still for 8/29? How’s jury seating going

https://cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov/eservices/home.page.2

Yes.
This is what we know:

07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 6, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 7TH AND 8TH, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON JULY 12, 13, 14, 2022 AT 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTOGMERY COUNTY JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM SCIOTO CO JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 8, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 12, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL, MONDAY, AUGUST 15, 2022, AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 19, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONDAY, AUGUST 15, 2022 AND EACH DAY THEREAFTER THROUGH FRIDAY, AUGUST 19, 2022; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 9:00AM
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2022 AND EACH WEEKDAY THEREAFTER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 8:30 EACH DAY
07/06/2022	WARRANT FOR REMOVAL FROM SCIOTO CO JAIL ON MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2022, AND EACH WEEKDAY THEREAFTER UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE; THE DEFENDANT SHALL ARRIVE AT THE PIKE COUNTY COMMON PLEAS COURT ON OR BEFORE 8:30AM EACH DAY

 

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Any update from Billy Wagner’s defense team ? I have not found anything new or recent motions filed.