OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #70

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Same report - opening arguments will begin next week

Jury selection must be finalized Monday in Pike County Common Pleas Court before any opening statements.

Those are not expected until next week, on Tuesday, Sept. 6.
 
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I just found this. Chris graves is one of the best journalists.

 
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I'm not sure if they are starting today as they are sorting out the Jury.

Sorry can't help with twitter.
I doubt there will be live coverage of the courtroom until opening statements.

I'm currently watching CourtTV live and the coverage of this case is just previously recorded clips from hearings, etc, mixed with coverage of the Murdaugh case in SC and the penalty phase trial of the Parkland school shooting in 2018.

CourtTV plans their coverage for live trials weeks in advance, I'm guessing, and have to fill air time until it really gets rolling. It was reported just a couple of minutes ago that once the jury is picked there will be a 2-day trip taking the jury to the various locations of the murders, the Wagner farm, etc before opening statements.
 
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For those new to the thread. I haven’t read this but Chris Graves is a reporter who has been there from day one. This could be a good “catch-up, overview”


She wrote some great stories about the murders. She managed to get close to Angela and Jake, even following them to Alaska. She even changed one story that she wrote about them where Jake inadvertently admitted he was at Dana Rhoden's house the night of the murders. IIRC, Chris Graves quoted him as saying he barely missed being there when the killers arrived. Later, Angela had Chris Graves issue a correction to the article, stating that Jake wasn't there that night.

Apparently, JMO, she believed the Wagners lies for quite a long time, though eventually she came around. It's still disappointing to hear her repeat on national media the false information from GW4's attorneys that GW4 didn't shoot anyone the night of the murders. If CG did a thorough job of listening to the multitude of pre-trial hearings, she would know the state continues to aver that GW4 did shoot that night. An objective reporter would know the state is honoring the judge's gag order and is refusing to respond to the defense's baseless claims in the news media. An objective reporter would not claim that GW4 didn't shoot anyone that night - instead they would say "the defense says this and the state says that".

I guess you could say CG is a good writer, but I wouldn't say she's a good journalist. Not right now anyway. JMO
 
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Here's a link to Chris Graves' 2016 article interviewing Jake Wagner.


Hanna Rhoden and Wagner shared custody of Sophia, who was supposed to be with her mom that fateful Friday evening, he said. But Wagner picked her up a day earlier than normal: "I reckon we missed it by just hours."
 
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Timeline for the murders and investigation up to 2019



Updated Timeline - Rhoden Family Murders - updating 2/5/2019

November 2001


George Wagner III indicted on 3 felony counts for receiving stolen property
Pike County: Father accused in Rhoden massacre faced prior felonies

2009
George Wagner III and Angela Wagner charged with felony tampering with evidence. Charges dismissed by Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk, who doesn’t recall the reason why.
Pike County: Father accused in Rhoden massacre faced prior felonies

2012 - AG DeWine issued press release announcing LE had discovered “a major marijuana grow site”in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel. During the discovery, 1200 plants were destroyed by investigators and two abandoned campsites were located, which they believe had belonged to Mexican nationals.

From <Media & Timeline NO DISCUSSION - Pike Co, OH 8 Family Members Murdered>

2013

November 2013

Birth of daughter Sophia to Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden. They lived together much of the time until 2015, at Hanna’s home or the Wagner’s
Pike County investigation: 8 deaths and multiple arrests were tied to one key factor — child custody

2014

Jake Wagner began hacking, etc. victims’ phones, computers and social media accounts according to indictment

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx

2015

March 2015


Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden end their relationship
Exhaustive investigation leads to break in Pike County murder case

May 2015

Frankie and Chris Rhoden, Jr get in a fight with another driver at a local demolition derby.
Violent Rhoden Brothers Met a Violent End in Ohio Massacre

August 2015
Hanna Rhoden becomes pregnant with her second child, Kylie

2016

January 2016

Wagner 4 begin plotting to murder the Rhoden family, per indictments

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx

February 2016
Box of marijuana discovered at Piketon Post Office, investigation leads to discovery of "shatter" operation

March 21, 2016
Chris Rhoden, Sr. purchases property and home at 3122 Union Hill Rd. for his ex-wife Dana Rhoden, where she lived with their children Hanna Mae Rhoden and Christopher Rhoden, Jr.
Properties released to family of Pike County victims

Two to three weeks prior to murders: Leonard Manley claims Jake Wagner and his father tried to get Hanna M Rhoden to sign documents giving custody of her daughter Sophia to Jake Wagner.



April 3, 2016

Rita Newcomb forged custody documents related to Sophia, daughter of Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden

Billy Wagner to answer to charges for Rhoden, Gilley murders in Pike County

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

April 7, 2016

Purchase made at Walmart – photo and receipt later retrieved by BCI and presented as evidence for murder indictments

Jan 17, 2019 Discovery Evidence Summary

April 15, 2016

Wagner family alleges Hanna Rhoden dropped off her daughter Sophia at their home. This conflicts with other reports that Jake Wagner picked up Sophia around 10:30 pm April 21.

Sunday, April 17, 2016

Hanna Rhoden gives birth to Kylie Rhoden at Southern Ohio Medical Center, Portsmouth, OH

Get Access

Monday, April 18, 2016

Photos of Hanna Rhoden in hospital with daughter Sophie and new baby Kylie

Graves: My wish for the Rhoden babies

Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - Woman sentenced in road rage incident court case involving Chris Jr.

From <OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5>

Wednesday, April 20, 2016

Thursday, April 21, 2016

8 am:
Dana arrives at work - Hillcrest Nursing Home, Peebles, OH

10:30 pm – Jake Wagner is reported to have picked up Sophia from Hanna Rhoden, a day earlier than usual

11pm: Dana leaves work - Hillcrest Nursing Home - 14 miles away per CNN

Approx 11:20 pm - Dana arrives home

Friday, April 22, 2016

1 am
: April Manley, sister in law of Dana Rhoden, allegedly exchanges text messages with Dana. This information has never been confirmed by LE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf4ObgRJ_Xo[/video

2 am: James Manley later told by LE that he received a text from Jake Wagner, ex-boyfriend of Hanna Rhoden. LE has never confirmed this.
Pike County Murders: Father says it’s like ‘tearing the scabs off us’

Between 1 am and 7 am - the following were murdered

  • Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (age 40): Nine (face, torso, extremities).
  • Dana Rhoden (age 37): Five (head).
  • Hannah Gilley (age 20): Five (head)
  • Christopher Rhoden, Jr. (age 16): Four (head).
  • Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden (age 20): Three (head). Two were “contact wounds” as indicated by soot from the gun on his skull.
  • Gary Rhoden (age 37): Three “contact” wounds (head).
  • Hanna Rhoden (19): Two (head).
  • Kenneth Rhoden (age 44): One (right eye).

Rhodens shot in head at point-blank range

7:15 am: Bobby Jo Manley, sister of Dina Rhoden, arrives at Chris Sr.'s property to feed his animals. She says she was with two friends, identities have varied, not confirmed.

7:15 to 7:40?: She uses a key to unlock the front door and sees the bodies of Gary & Chris Rhoden Sr. Exact time not known

Pike County: 'I was not leaving those babies in there'

7:49 am: Bobby Jo calls 911 Ibid.
Audio of call




7:53 am: PCSO Dep. Music and Dep. Chandler are dispatched to 4077 Union Hill Road in response to the 7:49 am 911 call from BJM. Ibid.

Approx 7:55 am: Billy Jo Manley runs next door to trailer of Frankie Rhoden & Hannah Gilley. Door is locked, she hears toddler inside, asks him to open the door. She then discovers the bodies of Frankie & Hannah. She takes the children outside to her car.
Ibid.

7:15 - 7:53 am: Sometime after discovering the bodies, Billy Jo Manley calls her brother James Manley. He and his son go to the home of Dana Rhoden and discover she is dead. According to his wife, James doesn't go further into Dana's home, though he can see her legs and hear a baby crying.
Ibid

8:07 am: Deputy Chandler arrived "at a neighboring residence where he was flagged down by a subject. Deputy Chandler advised that he needed multiple ambulances due to multiple down at multiple residences."

8:12 am: Deputy Music, Deputy Ball, and Major Evans all arrived "on scene" where they were approached by [Redacted] (later revealed it was James Manley) who stated: "there are two more dead people here." [Redacted] pointed to the residence at 4077 Union Hill.

From <OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5>

8:07 am - 8:17 am: Time of death declared for victims.

8:21 am: PCSO request for assistance sent to BCI

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/
OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5

12:13 pm: at least 4 BCI Crime Scene Unit trucks are seen at the intersection of Hwy 32 and Union Hill Road headed towards the crime scenes. (Source: tweet including a photo made by Gannett Ohio reporter @saranealeigh)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/

OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5

1:26 pm Friday: Donald Stone calls 911 to report discovery of Kenneth Rhoden’s body

LISTEN: 911 calls from Pike County mass killing

Audio of call
911 call: April 22 in Pike County. 1:26 p.m.

1:36 pm -- Ohio AG Mike DeWine issues a press release: 7 people murdered in "execution-style killings"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/

1:49 pm - Time of death listed for Kenneth Rhoden

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-family-death-certificates-released/85051602/

Saturday, 4/23/2016

Abt 3 - 4am
- LE arrives at Bobby Jo Manley's residence to question her; 5 others also questioned
Pike County Murders: Father says it’s like ‘tearing the scabs off us’

Kenny Rhoden (cousin) calls 911 in Greenup Co, KY stating he is being chased by a green Chrysler in South Shore, KY.
'I fear for my life,' Rhoden family member tells 911 | Ohio News

Businessman Jeff Ruby offers $25,000 reward
Jeff Ruby offers $25K reward for Pike Co. killer

Sunday, April 24, 2016

Autopsies performed by Hamilton County Medical Examiner in Cincinnati, OH
https://mgtvwcmh.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/pike-county-final-autopsies-redacted.pdf
Attorney General releases autopsies for Rhoden family members

Thursday, April 28, 2016

Funeral for Gary Rhoden, South Shore, KY
Family honors first of 8 Pike County victims at service

Jake Wagner files for custody of Sophia, age 2, his daughter with Hanna Rhoden

Court docs: Suspect filed for custody of child at heart of Pike County investigation days after slayings

Friday, April 29, 2016

Businessman Jeff Ruby withdraws his reward of $25,000. News reports say he was advised not to discuss the withdrawal
Cartel concerns behind Jeff Ruby's withdrawal of $25K reward

Saturday, April 30, 2016
Funeral for Hannah Gilley in Ottway, OH
Hannah Gilley, 20, laid to rest near her childhood home

Tuesday, May 3, 2016
Funeral for Rhoden family - Chris Sr, Dana, Frankie, Hanna, Chris Jr. and Kenneth
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...always-scar-this-town/yRPTKlTHsLqHb2kAg3M2lN/

Thursday, May 12, 2016
Trailers of family members Chris Rhoden Sr, Frankie Rhoden & Kenneth Rhoden were sealed and moved to storage at Hasdell Chemical Co. in Waverly, OH. Dana Rhodens trailer was moved later, on Sunday, May 15.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...nty-mobile-homes-moved-crime-scenes/84288652/

Friday, May 13, 2016

PCSO/BCI conducts a video interview of Jake Wagner


OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#41

Tuesday, May 17, 2016

AG Mike DeWine claims Rhoden family trailers and homes were moved to preserve evidence and to protect the family’s possessions that remain inside. Real property and remaining outbuildings, etc. are released to surviving family members.
Properties released to family of Pike County victims

Friday, May 25, 2016

PCSO/BCI conducts a video interview of Jake Wagner


Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/upload_2019-1-8_20-5-19-jpeg.163299/

Friday, May 27, 2016

Death certificates released to news media
http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-family-death-certificates-released/85051602/

Times of death (preliminary) :

8:07 am Chris Rhoden, Sr, Gary Rhoden

8:11 am Frankie Rhoden, Hannah Gilley

8:17 am Dana Rhoden, Hanna Rhoden, Chris Rhoden, Jr.

1:49 pm Kenneth Rhoden


Thursday, July 21, 2016


Pike County Sheriff announces a $10,000 reward, 10 weeks late, after it was approved
Rhoden murder reward announced - 10 weeks late

Tuesday, July, 26, 2016
Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

August 2016

Jacob Wagner, father of Hanna Rhoden's older daughter, lists his family farm for sale. Location is 260 Peterson Rd, Peebles, OH

Sometime after murders and before May 2017 raid on Wagner properties, it is determined through testing that JW is not the father of Hanna Rhoden's second child.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...-away-scene-rhoden-family-massacre/101600436/

Monday, August 8, 2016

Columbus Dispatch files lawsuit against Pike County Coroner’s office saying it is improperly withholding final autopsy results.

Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

Friday, September 9, 2016

PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with George Wagner III


Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys

Friday, September 23, 2016

Ohio AG releases heavily redacted final autopsy reports

Ohio AG releases redacted Rhoden autopsy reports

Attorney General releases heavily redacted Pike County autopsy reports

Wednesday, October 5, 2016

PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Angela Wagner

Ibid

2017

Tuesday, February 21, 2017


Ohio Supreme Court agrees to hear lawsuit case of Ohio newspapers seeking to view unredacted final autopsy reports
Ohio court will hear debate on autopsies of 8 family members

Tuesday, March 10, 2017
Jake Wagner's Peterson Rd house sells for $165,000

Thursday, April 13, 2017

PCSO/BCI conduct an audio interview with Jake Wagner

https://local12.com/news/local/jake-wagner-appears

Friday, April 21, 2017

Rhoden family members plead with public for tips to solve murders
https://www.dispatch.com/news/20170...members-plead-for-tips-to-solve-massacre-of-8

Saturday, April 22, 2017

Pike County LE place a GPS tracking device on truck owned by James Manley, brother of Dana Manley Rhoden. LE claims it was placed there because the truck was related to an aggravated murder case

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/

Friday, April 28, 2017

11:35 am
- James Manley finds and removes tracking device and destroys it

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/

Wednesday, May 3, 2017

PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Jake and Angela Wagner


https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

Approx. May 5, 2017

Jacob Wagner asks ___ Brown if he can store some trailers on his property. He tells him his farm is sold and he and his brother have found good paying jobs up north and are moving there. He needs to move out of farm for new owners. JW drops off 3 trailers at the Brown property a week before the search

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...assacre-more-search-details-emerge/101713414/

Monday, May 8, 2017

PCSO/BCI conducts audio interview with George Wagner III

https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

Tuesday, May 9, 2017
Jake Wagner stopped his activities related to intercepting, wire, oral or electronic communications, per Count 20 of his Indictment

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx

May 10, 2017
BCI search at 260 Peterson Rd

May 5 - May 12, 2017
Sometime after dropping off 3 trailers loaded with furniture and personal possessions, Jacob Wagner and family leave the area. Later posts on FB show photos of them in a location resembling areas in Alaska or Canada.

Friday, May 12, 2017

Abt 11 am
- PCSO, BCI, Adams County SO, Ohio Dept. of Corrections STAR and other Ohio LE agencies conduct a search at properties related to Jacob Wagner & family.

260 Peterson Rd, Peebles, OH - farm formerly owned by Wagner's parents, where JW resided with his mother, father, brother, daughter Sophia Rhoden Wagner and daughter of his brother George.


Unlimited Motors, St Hwy 41, Peebles, OH - Auto repair business and farm of ___ Brown, friend of J Wagner.
Ibid


Saturday, May 13, 2017
LE team PCSO, BCI) raids Flying W Farms. Franklin County Sheriff's office assists. Franklin County claims their SWAT team accompanied the raid, saying they had an arrest warrant. FCSO later retracts the statement. A neighbor of Flying W Farms who witnessed the vehicle caravan entering and leaving the property is interviewed, claiming there was a SWAT vehicle and an ambulance present.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...elative-charged-evidence-tampering/101747576/

http://www.cincinnati.com/videos/news/2017/05/16/rhoden-investigation-intensifies/101759968/

From <https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/media-timeline-no-discussion-pike-co-oh-8-family-members-murdered.306329/page-8>

PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Angela Wagner

https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

Tuesday, May 16, 2017

PCSO/BCI conduct audio interview with Angela Wagner


https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

May 18, 2017
BCI searches a Ford Excursion, retrieves items for testing and submitted as evidence

Jan 17, 2019 Discovery list

June 8, 2017

BCI searches trash at Days Inn, Jackson, OH (presume this hotel where GW3 and family stayed)

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/5zbix3y0ow6tp04l/images/7-f66b74f151.jpg

June 19, 2017
AG DeWine and Sheriff Reader make public appeal for information about Wagner family

https://www.dispatch.com/news/20170...n-about-family-regarding-pike-county-slayings


June ? 2017

Wagner family leaves Ohio to eventually end up living in Kenai, AK


July 2017

Wagner family has some kind of possible real estate transaction in Montana

(Need link to discovery document)

July 13, 2017
Search of property on Bethel Hill Rd, Piketon, OH; near Flying W Farms.
(link to discovery document) Jake Wagner Supplemental discovery evidence list Jan 17, 2019

Thursday, December 14, 2017
Ohio Supreme Court rules against Columbus Dispatch and Cincinnati Enquirer in lawsuit to release unredacted final autopsy reports
Ohio high court shields autopsy reports in Rhoden case - Times Gazette

2018

April 15, 2018


Wagner trailer search (location unknown)
Jan 17, 2019 Discovery list

April 19, 2018
Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk says Wagner family remains the focus of the Rhoden/Gilley murder investigation
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...investigation-stands-after-2-years/531686002/

Spring 2018
Wagner family members return from AK to Flying W Farms and later South Webster, OH. George Wagner IV returns later, arriving before the arrests

Per AG DeWine press conference at time of arrests

Approx. July 2018

Grand Jury is seated in Pike County to hear evidence and testimony in the Rhoden/Gilley murder case
Pike County murders: 8 deaths, multiple arrests tied to one key factor — child custody

July 14, 2018
Fredericka Wagner testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury regarding purchase of bullet-proof vests, among other evidence.
DocumentCloud

Wednesday, July 18, 2018
Rita Jo Newcomb testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury, later charged with perjury and obstructing justice
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

Tuesday, July 24, 2018
Fredericka Wagner testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury, later charged with perjury and obstructing justice

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

Wednesday, September 19, 2018
Unredacted preliminary autopsy reports of Rhoden/Gilley victims released for viewing by news media. Complete final autopsy reports remain heavily redacted

https://www.wcpo.com/news/state/sta...reporters-to-inspect-slain-family-s-autopsies

Thursday, October 11, 2018
Registered mail to George Wagner IV pertaining to custody agreement delivered to him at South Webster, OH
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...amily-arrested-43.421692/page-5#post-14792043

Tuesday, October 31, 2018
Investigators gathered the final piece of evidence – a silencer
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...alks-investigation-and-whats-next/2012179002/

BCI search of well at 260 Peterson Rd – retrieved silencer
Jake Wagner Supplemental Discovery Evidence List Jan 17, 2019

Wednesday, November 7, 2018
Lab experts completed examination of the silencer
Ibid.

Monday, November 12, 2018
Grand Jury hands down murder charges against 4 Wagner family members and forgery, obstruction of justice and other charges against Rita Jo Newcomb and Fredericka Wagner
Ibid.

Tuesday, November 13, 2018
Indictments filed, bringing charges against:
George Wagner III, Angela Jo Wagner, George Wagner IV, Edward "Jake" Wagner, Fredericka Wagner and Rita Jo Newcomb. Arrests of all were made the same day
https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...cial-Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

Indictments allege George Wagner III, George Wagner IV, Angela Wagner, Jake Wagner and Fredericka Wagner plotted revenge against Ohio AG Mike DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader

https://www.chillicothegazette.com/...-bond-made-rhoden-family-massacre/2010483002/

Wednesday, November 14, 2018
AG DeWine says custody battle was at the center of the Rhoden/Gilley murders
https://www.wlwt.com/article/6-arre...-killing-of-8-in-pike-county-ag-says/25055118

George Wagner III waives extradition from KY, where he was arrested
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-ne...-billy-wagner-waives-extradition-1/1596958670

November 15 - December 5, 2018
All suspects indicted in connection with Rhoden/Gilley murders arraigned on charges and plead not guilty
https://www.tdn-net.com/top-stories/53228/last-rhoden-murder-suspect-arraigned
 
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I just heard the reporter say once the jury is selected, they will be taken to all 4 crime scenes. Wow. So I am curious if that means the land where the trailers were and then will they be shown the trailers that they have moved to an evidence warehouse? I am sure that will be an emotional thing for jurors to drive out to the areas the shootings happened. This was on the Law and Crime live coverage. I can post the link if that is allowed.
 
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Listening to those 911 calls from BJ Manley and Donald Stone brings it all back. These were horrific crimes, beyond words. The photos of the crime scenes, the long line of EMS trucks staged along Union Hill Rd, waiting to pick up all those bodies. Interviews with Len Manley, eyes filled with tears, shouting and gasping with pain and frustration at the loss of his daughter, son in law and grandchildren. The sad, dignified lament of Gary Rhoden's father outside his funeral, speaking of how he was a good boy and wouldn't hurt anyone. Hanna Gilley's family and friends walking up a picturesque hillside to bury her in a warm spring rain. All those hearses filing slowly out of the funeral home, carrying Chris, Dana and their children to their burial place high on a hill.

We're all going to need a strong stomach and some courage as we learn the details that have long been kept under wraps. My prayers are with the family and friends who will have to experience this. It has to be done, so GW4 and his father can never walk free again.

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Listening to those 911 calls from BJ Manley and Donald Stone brings it all back. These were horrific crimes, beyond words. The photos of the crime scenes, the long line of EMS trucks staged along Union Hill Rd, waiting to pick up all those bodies. Interviews with Len Manley, eyes filled with tears, shouting and gasping with pain and frustration at the loss of his daughter, son in law and grandchildren. The sad, dignified lament of Gary Rhoden's father outside his funeral, speaking of how he was a good boy and wouldn't hurt anyone. Hanna Gilley's family and friends walking up a picturesque hillside to bury her in a warm spring rain. All those hearses filing slowly out of the funeral home, carrying Chris, Dana and their children to their burial place high on a hill.

We're all going to need a strong stomach and some courage as we learn the details that have long been kept under wraps. My prayers are with the family and friends who will have to experience this. It has to be done, so GW4 and his father can never walk free again.



It was just so senseless. There was no justifiable reason for any of them to die. That is what is so hard to believe. No big fight that lead a person to snap and shoot a gun, no life threatening situation where a person was defending themselves, just cold calculated planning for months to wipe out this family. So much loss because they didn't get what they wanted. We know evil existed, but not often do we see such evil just play out like this in such a thought out, planned, and carried out way. The details will be hard to hear. :(
 
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I just heard the reporter say once the jury is selected, they will be taken to all 4 crime scenes. Wow. So I am curious if that means the land where the trailers were and then will they be shown the trailers that they have moved to an evidence warehouse? I am sure that will be an emotional thing for jurors to drive out to the areas the shootings happened. This was on the Law and Crime live coverage. I can post the link if that is allowed.

I heard the same, listening when they live streamed that report. Post a link to the video if you want, others will probably want to listen.

DeWine and Reader said from the start that they wanted jurors to be able to go through the trailers when the time came for trials. We still don't know the details, but there is probably evidence in the trailers that helps the jurors understand how the murders took place and who the killers were, where they entered, etc.

There's been a lot of speculation over the years about whether there was some unique evidence in the trailers. IDK, we'll see. Among other things, its probably important to see how close the killers stood when murdering the Rhodens, how personal the killings were. How close the children were to their parents when shot.
 
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I heard the same, listening when they live streamed that report. Post a link to the video if you want, others will probably want to listen.

DeWine and Reader said from the start that they wanted jurors to be able to go through the trailers when the time came for trials. We still don't know the details, but there is probably evidence in the trailers that helps the jurors understand how the murders took place and who the killers were, where they entered, etc.

There's been a lot of speculation over the years about whether there was some unique evidence in the trailers. IDK, we'll see. Among other things, its probably important to see how close the killers stood when murdering the Rhodens, how personal the killings were. How close the children were to their parents when shot.
Agree. There was talk from when they moved the trailers that they should be available for jurors at some point to see them or walk through them. I can not imagine doing that after all this time if for no other reason than the possible health hazards to anyone after being closed up all this time.
 
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Hello, just checking in, glad it's finally happening very soon. Let justice be served!

I saved some links from the thread and have been getting ready to watch the trials. Just found this morning I can access CourtTV directly through their app on my smart tv. So that's another avenue, and the best for me as long as I'm near the tv.

Watching one of their programs now that's going through the case, but really don't have the patience to hear it all again. Testimony at trial is what I'm waiting for. At the end of the program a commentator referred to the Ws as "the family that slays together".

Thanks for keeping the most current court dates updated!
 
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Listening to those 911 calls from BJ Manley and Donald Stone brings it all back. These were horrific crimes, beyond words. The photos of the crime scenes, the long line of EMS trucks staged along Union Hill Rd, waiting to pick up all those bodies. Interviews with Len Manley, eyes filled with tears, shouting and gasping with pain and frustration at the loss of his daughter, son in law and grandchildren. The sad, dignified lament of Gary Rhoden's father outside his funeral, speaking of how he was a good boy and wouldn't hurt anyone. Hanna Gilley's family and friends walking up a picturesque hillside to bury her in a warm spring rain. All those hearses filing slowly out of the funeral home, carrying Chris, Dana and their children to their burial place high on a hill.

We're all going to need a strong stomach and some courage as we learn the details that have long been kept under wraps. My prayers are with the family and friends who will have to experience this. It has to be done, so GW4 and his father can never walk free again.



I remember when I heard about these murders. It was a couple of days after the bodies were found. Like others, I was perplexed when no one was arrested after many months. Little did I know the details that would be exposed after the arrests were made. JMO
 
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Hello, just checking in, glad it's finally happening very soon. Let justice be served!

I saved some links from the thread and have been getting ready to watch the trials. Just found this morning I can access CourtTV directly through their app on my smart tv. So that's another avenue, and the best for me as long as I'm near the tv.

Watching one of their programs now that's going through the case, but really don't have the patience to hear it all again. Testimony at trial is what I'm waiting for. At the end of the program a commentator referred to the Ws as "the family that slays together".

Thanks for keeping the most current court dates updated!
Court TV app on my TV is how I watch all trials.
 
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