OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #73

[LeftEyed]

For joe

Glock and Rifle at CRs, .22 at DRs, Glock at KRs

and .22 at Frankie's

 

[pittsburghgirl]

If he went along and drove a truck, he's building of aggravated murder. Helped move a body? Aggravated murder. Guarded a door? Aggravated murder.

Yikes... don't mention OJ's shoes. There is tape, pictures and evidence given that you owned those shoes.

OJ- No I didn't.
Jurors- OK, we believe you

Eh, the criminalists were incompetent, evidence got tainted, and there was a racist cop so the defense could discredit the prosecution's case. That's why OJ walked. And the defense attorneys were smarter while the prosecution played to the TV. None of that applies in this case.

 

[joe jones]

is the .22 the SKS I know very little about guns

 

[dgfred]

Applies to all cases IMO

 

[dgfred]

SKS is the high powered rifle. .22 is a handgun.

 

[Betty P]

I mean without fingerprints or DNA they don't have any physical or forensic evidence that ANY of them were there.

What they do have is evidence that no one else was there either. No fingerprints or DNA at all for anyone, Wagner or otherwise.

They have their statements and behavior AFTER this crime. They have recovered weapons/ weapons parts where one participant said they were. One of the weapons being the exact one George preferred to use. They have the mother's statements that she bought the shoes for her sons to use and they have video of her doing it, the receipt for them, and video of her boys and their kids sitting in the car at Walmart while she did it. They have the 2 different size shoe prints at the scene. They have George buying fuel filters, just before the crimes that just happened to be used for silencers in the crimes. They have George signing custody papers just before this and it was all a fake (no way he didn't know those papers were fraudulently created/done). He helped modify that truck they bought. They might not have a "smoking gun", but what they do have points directly at this family and all of them participating. If his defense is going to be, he knew nothing, did nothing, not involved at all, he is going to lose. If his defense is going to be, he was coerced, he went to protect Jake, he was afraid for his life if he didn't participate, he was controlled and abused growing up, etc. He might have a better chance at winning some of the counts.

They will have ballistics evidence linking the ammo and cartridges at the crime scene, to the guns retrieved on the Wagners grandmother's property.

They have their vehicle (proven to have been purchased by George) on video at crime scenes.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Billy never says “Your Honor”. Otherwise, Perfect!

Haha! You're right! I was giving him too much credit.

 

[Betty P]

Pike County murder trial: Third week of trial moves on to Kenneth Rhoden's home

More BCI and coroner testimony is expected Monday as the trial of a man accused of murdering eight people in Pike County in 2016 continues into its third week.

www.wcpo.com

Kenneth was killed with the same gun used on Chris Sr. His toxicology report showed he only had caffeine in his system. That means none of the murdered Rhodens or Hanna Gilley had drugs or alcohol in their systems, with the exception of Gary Rhoden.


Link to today's testimony

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[joe jones]

could somebody type me a succinct list of who shot who and with what gun, thanks, can you type out full name of gun as calibers etc. mean very little to me, sorry to be a pain but could you add the caliber of bullet each gun fired

 

[Betty P]

could somebody type me a succinct list of who shot who and with what gun, thanks, can you type out full name of gun as calibers etc. mean very little to me, sorry to be a pain but could you add the caliber of bullet each gun fired

I'm waiting until the expert testimony is done until I do that. JMO.

 

[LeftEyed]

is the .22 the SKS I know very little about guns

In this case the SKS is the .30 (high powered rifle)

 

[LeftEyed]

could somebody type me a succinct list of who shot who and with what gun, thanks, can you type out full name of gun as calibers etc. mean very little to me, sorry to be a pain but could you add the caliber of bullet each gun fired

Jake's proffer allegedly says Jake fired the 1911 colt .22 and SKS .30 shots and Billy fired the Glock .40 shots.

 

[Ann99]

I hope the Prosecutor knows this gun and ballistic stuff is like speaking a foreign language to us and probably the jury.
it needs to be simplified.

 

[joe jones]

were there 3 guns used, the one that shot into CRsr that is an SKS, which is .30 caliber, then another gun that shot CRsr and GR, was that the Glock, and then one more gun for the others, anybody know what that was,

 

[Betty P]

I hope the Prosecutor knows this gun and ballistic stuff is like speaking a foreign language to us and probably the jury.
it needs to be simplified.

Remember, these jurors are from Pike County, a very rural county. Most of them probably own weapons or at least have handled guns before.

 

[joe jones]

Jake's proffer allegedly says Jake fired the 1911 colt .22 and SKS .30 shots and Billy fired the Glock .40 shots.

thanks, may I ask one further question, the 1911 Colt is that the brand name or is that when it was manufactured,

 

[Betty P]

were there 3 guns used, the one that shot into CRsr that is an SKS, which is .30 caliber, then another gun that shot CRsr and GR, was that the Glock, and then one more gun for the others, anybody know what that was,

The 1911 Colt, which shot the .22 ammo. The ballistics expert today used one like it when he testified. Wasn't it George who had the list of all the weapons they used listed on his cell phone or social media account? The Wagners also had photos of these guns on their phones and social media. Didn't someone post photos of their gun or guns on Facebook?

 

[joe jones]

I hope the Prosecutor knows this gun and ballistic stuff is like speaking a foreign language to us and probably the jury.
it needs to be simplified.

I am beyond confused, admittedly it doesn't take much, and I only caught the last bit of testimony, but I can't seem to match up the guns, caliber and which scene they were used at

 

[Betty P]

I am beyond confused, admittedly it doesn't take much, and I only caught the last bit of testimony, but I can't seem to match up the guns, caliber and which scene they were used at

I think the prosecution had a graphic for that in their opening statement. I'll look for it later. I'm sure they'll go over it again.

 

[joe jones]

Thanks for all the posts that are keeping me up to date somewhat with the trial, Life has got in the way of my trial watching, am hoping to be able to watch some more later on in the week,