OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #74

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  • #541
Sounds like the defense is objecting to presentation of weapons not used in the crime. Maybe? moo
correct! and defense oral motion is denied.

Judge denies defense oral motion. Says defense can object when it comes up. State will argue that evidence is part of conspiracy. But wants to see someone who knows this happened to give foundation for evidence.
@local12

The word I was looking for that the defense was arguing was propensity - saying because they had a lot of guns doesn't mean they are murderers.

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  • #542
If so, a little less creepy stuff from the creepy Wagner family. How sad, though, that the mother can't sleep in the same room as her baby. Angela asserting her control over the grandchildren, always trying to alienate them from their mothers.
I believe T fully. AW's beliefs, (well the infant sleeping in she and BW's room is very odd), are not uncommon and most likely a growing trend in youth leaving behind, the religions of their forefathers, in this region. The baby sleeping with them, may have been to AW's benefit, as to keeping G3 off of her...
 
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  • #544
I would agree owning a gun doesnt make you a murderer.
 
  • #545
I need to go back and listen to that video again. I recall her saying the state wasn't conceding that GW4 wasn't a shooter.

The prosecution has changed their stance then.
 
  • #546
  • #547
Delay, delay, delay
 
  • #548
Defense trying to frustrate AC
 
  • #549
They're trying to keep AC from letting Tabitha say that Angela kept her from breast feeding her baby, against advice from lactation counselor.

Wagners created fake Facebook accounts in her name.

I don't understand why judge is going along with these objections by defense. It's important to get these facts out about control, abuse, etc.
 
  • #550
The prosecution has changed their stance then.

If so, I assume it's because they can't prove it, though they still believe he did.
 
  • #551
I believe T fully. AW's beliefs, (well the infant sleeping in she and BW's room is very odd), are not uncommon and most likely a growing trend in youth leaving behind, the religions of their forefathers, in this region. The baby sleeping with them, may have been to AW's benefit, as to keeping G3 off of her...

Is the habit of babies sleeping with grandparents a part of religious beliefs? I wasn't aware of that.
Agree with the second part. I don't think AW and Billy's marriage was in a good place.
 
  • #552
Yikes!

She tried to rip his (reproductive organs) off.

Off topic... Did the site just crash for everyone or just me? Spent the past 15 minutes trying to get back.
 
  • #553
Yikes!

She tried to rip his (reproductive organs) off.

She is one tough lady. Such a shame she wasn't successful in ripping them off.
 
  • #554
I'm probably wrong but I thought I heard her say that after infant was born, the infant was moved to parents room per GW4 and AW
I think it was per AW and G3, but G4 didn't stand up to them.
 
  • #555
Yikes!

She tried to rip his (reproductive organs) off.

Off topic... Did the site just crash for everyone or just me? Spent the past 15 minutes trying to get back.

She was basically held prisoner in that house for at least 2 years or more.
 
  • #556
Yikes!

She tried to rip his (reproductive organs) off.

Off topic... Did the site just crash for everyone or just me? Spent the past 15 minutes trying to get back.

No, it kept going for me, pretty sure. I've been away from the laptop quite a bit.
 
  • #557
She was basically held prisoner in that house for at least 2 years or more.

Almost seems like kidnapping. Or maybe it is.
 
  • #558
If so, I assume it's because they can't prove it, though they still believe he did.
Then the prosecution believes JW or not? This was based on his plea.
 
  • #559
Yikes!

She tried to rip his (reproductive organs) off.

Off topic... Did the site just crash for everyone or just me? Spent the past 15 minutes trying to get back.
The WS site? Seems a bit glitchy on my end today. And good for her!
 
  • #560
Im watching WCPO and have no issues. Im also about 10k miles away. 2242 hrs
 
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