Aggh thank you! I was going to try to find the video of that proceeding to see what all was said after listening to the podcast! You just provided the info I was after. I wonder what was in the trash at Days Inn?
The trash pull is interesting as there is a Days Inn in Jackson OH, about 30 east of Pike Co. What interests me is that no one really knows where the W4 were from May 10 (move out of Peterson) to when they arrived in AK mid June 2017.
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Barbara Moore is an attorney in West Union, OH, George's divorce attorney IIRC.
I think your right, that the Wagner's were hiding at the Jackson OH Days Inn at that time. The first search was secret but it was made clear that the Wagner's were given a search Warrant for that 2nd search which means to me they were in Ohio.
You don't offend anyone. Keep posting, I enjoy reading all your posts. I found this but don't remember if it was posted or not so I'll post it just in case.
Walmart receipt.. interesting there is something M hanes.. maybe the black shirts? also cough syrup and gas relief.
Thanks! Very good monitor photos. Angie in Wamart very clear.
BBM - So if they have recipts of purchases or evidence they purchased masks, but those masks were not found with their items, then maybe it further proves what Jake will testify to. Who buys masks and then doesn't own them a year later? It might also be telling if they were purchased the month of the murders. I know it's not warm in Ohio in April, but turkey hunting is the only season that was open and IIRC it was about 17th or 18th that it was open and prior to that no hunting really and if they were hauling stuff in trucks, might not really need a mask for work in April. Seems those would be more so needed in say Dec-Feb maybe March. The reason my husband would wear one of those is to clear snow from the driveway when it's really cold or if he were hunting and that would be if it was say 30s and lower. Those get very hot really fast when out walking through the woods and not out in an exposed/windy type situation. So anyway just my random thinking on the masks. If he says they burned them and there was proof of recent purchase, but those masks were never found, then maybe that is a way to sorta corroborate his story.
I'm glad someone mentioned the kitchen table! How did AW, JW, GW, possibly BW at times, Hanna, Tabitha and the two little ones all sit around that table?! I guess it's possible they had a bigger table at one time as I did see one in pictures sitting outside a bar/shed somewhere on the property. JMO
How many everyday citizens knows about this law? Not me and I used to work as a contractor within the IRS for a few years. WOW, sure glad I’m not a nosey person.
Right. Jake could say those masks were bought years ago, or confirm one or more was a 2016 murder kit purchase. There will be a ton of things Jake will need to clear up.
I don't think GW4 cared at all about the Rhoden family and Hannah Gilley. The loss of their lives meant nothing to him. If he had mustered the courage to talk his family out of the murder spree, it would have been to save his own family, not to prevent the deaths of others.
Someone was messing around KRs ex-wife’s mailbox late one night summer after the murders, trying to intimidate her and Kendra Rhoden, (I wonder who that was) give you Sleuthers one guess! JMO that when the ski mask where worn, if new ones where bought.
In one of the Podcasts episodes they had Angela's half brother on and he said he and George and Jake grew up like brothers more than uncle/nephews because he was just a year or so older I believe. Angela was 20 when he was born. He said he was often over there playing with the boys and George was always nice. He was more buddies with him and Angela always treated him a little different (her brother). It was an interesting interview. It really is sad that Jake and George didn't really have a chance. IF they could have gotten out of that house at 18 and made their own life, maybe. But we can't really discount what it is like to grow up with controlling and manipulative parents. You learn to behave a certain way to avoid confrontation and to appease them, then you question if you are normal or crazy, if they are crazy and what is really reality and acceptable. I do think at some point you realize your family is different from the normal. I am willing to bet when these girls came into their home and both had been abused in their past that was somehow used to show the boys that the way the Wagner's lived with the control and rules was better than others because look at the abuse and drugs and how bad all that was.. these girls needed this family and were better off with us (how they thought not how I think). It just further cements that thinking that all for one and protect the family because the outsiders are the problem. So sad.
