OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #79

[RAISINISBACK]

AC just did her exasperated hands out when the defense objected to something, the judge gave her quite the frown.

where are you watching? I cant get law and crime today for some reason

 

[Pru2U]

Thank you! That is how I understood it. But they media keeps reporting otherwise.

Yes, the media DOES keep reporting otherwise. As Betty P told me, it's a very complex case with very complex charges. It's easy to get confused on just about anything.

 

[sunshineray]

Yes. If GW4 had opted to take a plea deal, he would have gotten LWOP.

It was designed to be a family offer, so to speak. Everyone take a plea deal and get LWOP. In AW's case, she negotiated for less.

If GW4's attorneys had entered into plea negotiations back then, he could have negotiated for less or at max, LWOP. Once he goes to trial, he's at the mercy of the jury to determine guilt for the charges and Judge Deering to determine the sentence w/ max of DP.

That's not what I thought. I thought that as long as JW testifies to the satisfaction of the prosecution the DP for GWIV is off the table. It will be the same for BW if he decides to go to trial. So in essence, as part of JW's confessing/testifying deal, he gets to save his brother and father's lives. Like yoh said AW made her own deal

 

[Tillicum]

They're back.

 

[abeaman02]

The problem is we have only tweets to get the info. I think some tweets gets mixed up. I know Chris Sr place was locked and it was said Jake tossed the keys in and locked the door. Then when they were found that morning BJM knew where a key was so she was able to get in..

So I think it's possible the tweet saying he locked Dana's door was confused with Chris Sr.

If we had his actual voice to hear what he's saying it would be easier, but we just have these tweets that have been mixed up.

When Jake says he threw the keys in and locked the door, I think he is talking about Chris Sr truck. When he dropped it back off, he threw the keys in and locked the door. MOO

 

[sunshineray]

where are you watching? I cant get law and crime today for some reason

The Law & Crime on YouTube, they've been switching it up today with the camera views

 

[CIA Team Member]

Geez how long break???

Haha! All I have to say is I wish MY 15' work break was actually 1/2 hour-45 minutes long.

 

[arielilane]

Defense and GW4 being secretive, GW4 putting his hand over his mouth to speak with Parker, writing notes to each other, and sharing a laugh or two. That bothers me about the laugh. IMO

 

[CIA Team Member]

where are you watching? I cant get law and crime today for some reason

I had this issue yesterday. I turned off TV then went back to the link and it worked.

 

[justtrish]

Wonder what Jake was referring to about the building his mom bought to sell and they forgot their chainsaw and went back home?

 

[sunshineray]

The problem is we have only tweets to get the info. I think some tweets gets mixed up. I know Chris Sr place was locked and it was said Jake tossed the keys in and locked the door. Then when they were found that morning BJM knew where a key was so she was able to get in..

So I think it's possible the tweet saying he locked Dana's door was confused with Chris Sr.

If we had his actual voice to hear what he's saying it would be easier, but we just have these tweets that have been mixed up.

BJM got the extra key that was hidden

 

[twall]

Recess until 1:00 pm. They just took a 1 hr break!

 

[Tillicum]

Lunch until 1:00.

 

[Tillicum]

Defense and GW4 being secretive, GW4 putting his hand over his mouth to speak with Parker, writing notes to each other, and sharing a laugh or two. That bothers me about the laugh. IMO

With this long lunch after break, maybe he agreed to a plea deal?

 

[Gardenista]

The Docket has an interesting tweet

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/ToddDykesWLWT

Was just back up in the courtroom. Jurors were dismissed for a lunch break until 1 b/c of external issues the court is considering. I'll provide updates when possible.. Stay w/ #WLWT for the latest updates in #GeorgeWagner's murder trial.

 

[Gardenista]

Angenette Levy

@Angenette5
Court in recess until 1 p.m. EST in OH v. #GeorgeWagnerIV after the court received this judgment from the 4th District Court of Appeals regarding witnesses opting out of being recorded
@LawCrimeNetwork

https://twitter.com/x/status/1584935230263087104

 

[Betty P]

I'm just so confused on what George sentence can be and whether the DP is off the table or note. Some say no matter George isn't getting DP since Jake testifying to satisfy the Prosecutor. Others, say since George didn't take a plea he is facing DP. It's all confusing.

This is incorrect. I posted the excerpts from GW4's court docket the other day. I guess I'll have to go back and find it again. This matter was brought up by GW4's attorneys in a hearing in Aug 2021. The judge's ruling is according to Ohio law:

• Jake's plea agreement has provision for LWOP sentence if he testifies to the satisfaction of prosecutors
• Jake's plea agreement also has a provision for LWOP for his co-conspirators if they also sign plea agreements
• The plea agreement is under the jurisdiction of the Special Prosecutors
• Sentencing for trials is controlled by Judge Deering
• Special Prosecutors cannot determine sentences for defendants found guilty in court - only the judge can

Co-defendants negotiate plea agreement - Maximum sentence is LWOP - Prosecutors decide

Co-defendants go to trial - Maximim sentence on capital charges is DP - Judge decides

Each option has it's own jurisdiction - prosecutor - plea agreement Judge - trial, sentencing

 

[LMDlong]

Good question. IIRC, he said he covered up Chris Sr. and Gary, right? IMO-Maybe he doesn't remember covering her up. If he lied about it, what would be the purpose?

Maybe GW covered her up.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

The only evidence against George is Jake.

JMO

Jake confirms other evidence, i.e., the shoe prints, George's gun being used, George part of the murder truck buy, George being involved in the forged custody papers. The uncle could confirm George's presence at the truck buy if needed. and really does anyone doubt George helped modify the truck or engaged in shooting practice with the weapons?