OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #81

[Johnny B Bad]

How long did Angela Wagner stay on the witness stand today?

 

[NWLady]

I know @johnny commented about AW's eyebrows, but now that I look closer at her picture, I see that her eyebrows don't look right or is it just the lighting in the picture? It looks as if she only has a half an eyebrow on each side, or no?

 

[Betty P]

I know @johnny commented about AW's eyebrows, but now that I look closer at her picture, I see that her eyebrows don't look right or is it just the lighting in the picture? It looks as if she only has a half an eyebrow on each side, or no?

 

[KentuckyMama]

Every single issue with her sons and likely Billy also started with her.

She accused Tabatha of poisoning them.
She accused Beth of food poisoning them
She accused Beth of touching the kids
She accused Frankie of being affectionate
She claims Sophia is molested because her privates are red and she is putting things in there?

Unreal how her influence lead to this. They sure did do their part, but her nagging to fix this issue is what lead to the plan to murder them.



Also, can I just say I have kids that are all teenagers and up now, but when they were little kissing on the lips was VERY common. I remember trying to get a cheek kiss and often they would search for my lips to kiss them. They mimic what they see and what do they usually see? Daddy and mommy kissing on the lips. I even remember laughing and joking about it because I found it so cute that until they were older, it was normal to them and so very innocent. The claim that Frankie kissed her on the lips is somehow inductive of abuse is just pathetic.

The only thing I've heard that sounds like it may have been sexually inappropriate with kids in this entire case has been the actions of AW. <modsnip - namecalling> is the highest she ever rated. Just downhill from there.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

I also don't believe his allegations that Hanna said "he'd have to deal with it". We saw the texts between the two in the months after she left him. She never expressed that kind of irresponsibility. You could tell she was a good, caring mother who made sure her daughter was save and loved. The proof is in those texts and the testimony of her friends who said the same - she was a very good mother.

JMO, the Wagners were "projecting" their sick attitudes and behavior onto the Rhodens. If anyone was abusing children, it was most likely the Wagners. People who insisted wives and girlfriends keep their doors open, even when going to the restroom.

I look at Hanna's FB photos--the ones she took of other people and places--and see a young woman who loved her family.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I know @johnny commented about AW's eyebrows, but now that I look closer at her picture, I see that her eyebrows don't look right or is it just the lighting in the picture? It looks as if she only has a half an eyebrow on each side, or no?

Your right she just has half an eyebrow on each eye, do you think it’s some kind of gang she belongs to in jail?

 

[blackbeary]

Your right she just has half an eyebrow on each eye, do you think it’s some kind of gang she belongs to in jail?

Thyroid issues can cause eyebrows to do this.

 

[ColMustard]

Thyroid issues can cause eyebrows to do this.

Maybe she got a jailhouse spa "treatment". When they finish, they walk you to a stainless steel mirror to look at yourself. Oops!

 

[Dudly]

The only thing I've heard that sounds like it may have been sexually inappropriate with kids in this entire case has been the actions of AW. <modsnip - namecalling> is the highest she ever rated. Just downhill from there.

Makes you wonder how often AW was checking for abuse and what effect that had on a little girl…

 

[Chingaling]

I know @johnny commented about AW's eyebrows, but now that I look closer at her picture, I see that her eyebrows don't look right or is it just the lighting in the picture? It looks as if she only has a half an eyebrow on each side, or no?

LOL I have the same problem, Well they are there but so light you can't see them.And I refuse to paint them on, so love me leave me baby,LOL.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Makes you wonder how often AW was checking for abuse and what effect that had on a little girl…

The only effects that Angela had was she is a liar and she is lying again about the abuse also she couldn’t stand that she didn’t have control over HR and that Hanna broke Jakes hart when she had Corey Giley for a new love, if AC can see what AW is saying she will pull her deal away of 30 years and change it to life without parole, JMO

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I thought that was GW4 other attorneys last name?

No, it is Parker.

 

[Piffcat]

Although, I do agree she got off light....I will say this: She will be in a state prison everyday for the next 30 years. So 365 days X 30 years equals 10,950 days. Each one of those days, she will have to navigate a social tightwire with the worst of society much like herself. There are going to be prisoners in her prison that would love to make a name for themselves, prisoners that might challenge her to a confrontation just to see where she is in the pecking order. Her days of easily commiting insurance fraud, or stealing boots are over. Let her just be suspected of stealing from another inmate or defrauding another inmate. The rules on the outside she is used to are now over.....for the next 10,950 days. Keep in mind one of the most infamous killers in my lifetime only made it two years in prison(Dahlmer). And if (Big IF) she does make it the full 30 years and is released, she was party to the killing of 8 people. She will always have to look over her shoulder.

i really wish this was the case but its just not how she will see it. this is a victory for her plain and simple. someone who had no issue playing god.the 1 most feared part of prison for men is rape. you cannot compare this to anything that happens in womens prison with the exception of if a male guard raped an inmate. aw will be playing mother hen counting down the days.... and to her it will be worth it. she got to kill 8 people who she was obssesed with killing and she got her wish. theres no despair of knowing you die behind bars just anticipation of freedom. doesnt look like shes dealing with any violence over there from looks of her face. jail is only a punishment fit for murder when its 23 hour lock down. never shutthe lights off. blast hot air and cold air alternatly. loud music at night. this is how el chapo is treated in supermax with a concrete slab for a bed. this is what all these wagners and the rest of murderous scum who take a life and then beg for theirs. justice system is so busy keeping the killers rights . making angela testify on camera and in her own voice is the start of a real punishment. this arrogant sex abuse crazed devil was essentially given a platform to spew hatred and false accusations against the victims. she has the nerve to say "i wanted to drive and stop it" throw up in the mouth listening to this insanity

 

[Piffcat]

I agree with everything you said except the value of her testimony. It ALL began with Angela. Listening to her tell how she planted every evil seed in her son's & husband's minds; sitting on that stand, self-righteously victim blaming and seemingly totally unaware of all the damage her lies have caused makes me furious. Whether the murders were her idea or not, whether she was there or not, whether she fired a shot not; it started with her, this is all her fault - and every single time she shames & blames the victims (and there are many), the jury is hearing it. That's valuable.

this a good point but i do think angelas deal and testimony plays right in to g4s defense. just giving angela any of the murder charges dropped was beyond terrible. those charges would have stuck. if g4 main argument seems to be he was a wallflower at this massacre and angela cant refute that. she can only say he went. if this was a rico drug trafficking network then yea she can establish the conspiracy. but claims she wasnt at any of the scenes. so i guess her main contribution is blowing up g4 allibi, but jake already did that.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

The only effects that Angela had was she is a liar and she is lying again about the abuse also she couldn’t stand that she didn’t have control over HR and that Hanna broke Jakes hart when she had Corey Giley for a new love, if AC can see what AW is saying she will pull her deal away of 30 years and change it to life without parole, JMO

Corey is a Holdren, not a Gilley.

How long did Angela Wagner stay on the witness stand today?

IMO.... too long!

 

[pittsburghgirl]

i really wish this was the case but its just not how she will see it. this is a victory for her plain and simple. someone who had no issue playing god.the 1 most feared part of prison for men is rape. you cannot compare this to anything that happens in womens prison with the exception of if a male guard raped an inmate. aw will be playing mother hen counting down the days.... and to her it will be worth it. she got to kill 8 people who she was obssesed with killing and she got her wish. theres no despair of knowing you die behind bars just anticipation of freedom. doesnt look like shes dealing with any violence over there from looks of her face. jail is only a punishment fit for murder when its 23 hour lock down. never shutthe lights off. blast hot air and cold air alternatly. loud music at night. this is how el chapo is treated in supermax with a concrete slab for a bed. this is what all these wagners and the rest of murderous scum who take a life and then beg for theirs. justice system is so busy keeping the killers rights . making angela testify on camera and in her own voice is the start of a real punishment. this arrogant sex abuse crazed devil was essentially given a platform to spew hatred and false accusations against the victims. she has the nerve to say "i wanted to drive and stop it" throw up in the mouth listening to this insanity

I get what you're saying. Her lies are infuriating. But today she had to testify against her son. Later it will be her husband. 'and once that's over, she will spend 30 years locked in prison, with no idea what her grandkids are doing. She won't every order a hot pizza or take a long bath in candlelight or see her granddaughter in a prom dress. She can spew all she wants as she puts the rest of her family behind bars. She isn't smart enough or decent enough or unselfish enough to find an actual life in prison.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

this a good point but i do think angelas deal and testimony plays right in to g4s defense. just giving angela any of the murder charges dropped was beyond terrible. those charges would have stuck. if g4 main argument seems to be he was a wallflower at this massacre and angela cant refute that. she can only say he went. if this was a rico drug trafficking network then yea she can establish the conspiracy. but claims she wasnt at any of the scenes. so i guess her main contribution is blowing up g4 allibi, but jake already did that.

If G4 was present on Rhoden property and armed with a gun (which we know from Jake), nothing Angela said will help him. The state has subpoenaed Silas Wagner, who will testify that Jake and George came to him to buy the murder truck. He signed the fake custody papers in case he died during the massacre. And Angela testified that he left with the other two and came back with them.

And--the conspiracy is more than the actual murders; it also involves planning, preparing, doing things like disabling security cameras and jamming cell signals, and covering up. If he burned his clothes--guilty. Jake testified that he helped put the guns in concrete--guilty. She testified DIRECTLY that she, Billy, Jake and George were all involved in planning and covering up the massacre. I don't see why people think George is going to walk free.

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, November 2nd:
*Trial continues (Day 35) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) & a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 31) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table only for Jake if his testimony is truthful. But George still faces the DP as he did not take a deal.
Trial began on 8/29/22 with final jury selection & the jury was seated on 8/30/22. 12 Jurors & 6 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 6 alternates: (5 women & 1 man). 9/30/22: Ill juror replaced with alternate. 12 jurors & 5 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 5 alternates (4 women & 1 man).
Trial began with opening statements on Monday, 9/12/22. (Trial is scheduled for 8 to 9 weeks (56-63 days).
Added note: Regarding shoe sizes: Jake wore the size 10.5 & George the 11.
Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 9/6/22 & Trial Day 1-33 (9/12 to 10/31/22) no court on 10/27/22 reference post #365 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-17
11/1/22 Tuesday, Trial Day 34: State witness: BCI gun expert Matthew White continued.
For more info see post #337 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-17
For more info see post #342 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-18
For more info see post #361 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-19
State witness: Angela Wagner, George’s mother. Has opted out of video/audio.
For more info see posts #399 & 400 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-20
For more info see post #434 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-22
For more info see post #446 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-23
For more info see posts #463, 469 (article w/photos) & 470 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-24
For more info see posts #487 & 493 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-81.641769/page-25
Trial continues on Wednesday, 11/2/22.
Article with summary of Monday, 10/31/22 trial – see post #332 on page 17.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I don't. He wont get death. Even if he does, it will never be carried out and he knows that.

Why would it not be carried out?

 

[pcrum12]

The whole things just stinks. She (AW) admits doing the planning, buying, custody papers, right? That's conspiracy same for her as for George. He (George) doesn't have to be there or shoot anyone to face the murder charge, right? She (AW) did the same! She is worse than he, she caused and coerced the whole thing in my opinion.