OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #83

[Skully67]

The controversy over this is the way the eye looks in the photo. Kenny was shot in his right eye. The right eye in the photo is colored red with black spikes around it.

I posted it from George's Facebook. Here it is:

Thanks. But where did GW4 find it. What did the artist intend with that eye thing.

 

[ColMustard]

Thanks. But where did GW4 find it. What did the artist intend with that eye thing.

I found references to a three eyed wolf tattoo, but nothing for one eye.

 

[Cool Cats]

Thanks. But where did GW4 find it. What did the artist intend with that eye thing.

George could have found this anywhere on the internet. No way to know why the artist would make the right eye this way. No way to know why George liked it and posted it. Just creepy because of how Kenny was shot.

Angela didn't seem to like it, you can tell that by reading her Facebook remark and George's response.

I added link to George's Facebook.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I do not believe that the DP will be brought back. Angela and Jake did what their plea deals said and admitted their involvement and even placed George and Billy at the crime scenes. Jake had Billy shooting Gary and Chris and Kenny.

He gave alot of detailed information of George's involvement, specific things he did. Plus led BCI to the guns and truck used in the murders, giving alot of information about that evidence.

I think the 3 Wagner men getting LWOP would be the best outcome.

Angela won't walk out until she is 78 so I have come to have more peace with her 30 year no early release, no parole sentence. She deserves LWOP but if the family agreed to her plea deal then I can accept it. At age 78 who cares what she does? Her grand kids and possible great grand kids won't want anything to do with her. Who would?

Her grand kids have new families, new relatives, new lives now.

CC
Angela got up there on the witness stand and told a lie about Frankie and Chris abusing SW just to make the killing look like it was necessary, JMO
Give All Four Wagner’s The Death Penalty! JMO

 

[OhioBlues]

George could have found this anywhere on the internet. No way to know why the artist would make the right eye this way. No way to know why George liked it and posted it. Just creepy because of how Kenny was shot.

Angela didn't seem to like it, you can tell that by reading her Facebook remark and George's response.

I added link to George's Facebook.

Did you do a reverse Google image search? I am on my phone and having a hard time.

 

[Cool Cats]

MSN

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Cincinnati Enquirer - 26m ago

Update, 4 p.m.: The murder trial of George Wagner IV wrapped up another week with the prosecution telling the judge "we have no further witnesses."

Has the prosecution rested? Not exactly. While no proceedings will occur Friday due to Veterans Day and jurors will also not be at the courthouse Monday, the attorneys will be in the courtroom as the prosecution submits its exhibits to the Pike County Common Pleas Judge Randy Deering. In order to rest its case, the prosecution will first need to work to get all its evidence accepted and for the case to continue.

What's up for the defense once it's in full swing?
Here are 10 other witnesses the defense may call on to testify:
(see in article)

 

[twall]

CC
Angela got up there on the witness stand and told a lie about Frankie and Chris abusing SW just to make the killing look like it was necessary, JMO
Give All Four Wagner’s The Death Penalty! JMO

True! I think JW lied about BW shooting FR. JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Did you do a reverse Google image search? I am on my phone and having a hard time.

No. I am on Facebook and simply typed in his name and his Facebook came up. My links worked before. Now the links are saying you have to be on Facebook, but my first link still goes straight to the photo of the wolf. You don't have to be on Facebook to see that photo on his page, it looks like.

Let me know if I did anything wrong according to the Web sleuths terms of service. I want to make sure I post according to TOS. Thank you.

 

[Cool Cats]

True! I think JW lied about BW shooting FR. JMO

Right. Why would Jake say he killed Frankie then later add in Billy. Makes no sense.

 

[Cool Cats]

CC
Angela got up there on the witness stand and told a lie about Frankie and Chris abusing SW just to make the killing look like it was necessary, JMO
Give All Four Wagner’s The Death Penalty! JMO

I don't believe in the DP but we can't discuss it on here.

However, if I saw evil criminals who killed 8 people, what the Wagner's did, getting the DP I would totally understand that. I respect your opinion on it.

LWOP in most likely maximum security with targets on their backs because many inmates will hate them, will make them suffer. Plus, if targeted, they would be put in miserable protective custody - isolation - for their own protection. Stuck most of the time alone in a tiny cell. Miserable life for them in prison.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Has anyone located the source of the wolf drawing.

When pressing “see all” on his “likes” and scrolling all the way down, the fourth page from the bottom is a wolf art page.
I’m guessing he got it from a page he followed that shared the pic or something and he “related to it” so saved it and posted it maybe?
Interestingly that post was also shared three times but we can’t see who shared it.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

When pressing “see all” on his “likes” and scrolling all the way down, the fourth page from the bottom is a wolf art page.
I’m guessing he got it from a page he followed that shared the pic or something and he “related to it” so saved it and posted it maybe?
Interestingly that post was also shared three times but we can’t see who shared it.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

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I wonder if he had an account on deviant art? Or tumblr for that matter? Those sorts of accounts can be very revealing too.
Not sure if it’s come up on a feed for him or he sought it out.

 

[Jmyers2986]

New to the forum, so forgive me. IMO Jake took the fall and gave them what went down with the rolls reversed. If any of them was getting scared and backing down, it was Jake. JMO Jake was the one with the SKS, George had the .40 and Billy had the .22. Why else would Billy freak out? He knew CRsr was going to die, but Jake was supposed to kill him. No Billy and George sent the smallest and weakest into ambush and kill two grown men. Probably against their constitional rights to revoke the dp clause, but IMO I would love to see it happen.

 

[FrankieT]

New to the forum, so forgive me. IMO Jake took the fall and gave them what went down with the rolls reversed. If any of them was getting scared and backing down, it was Jake. JMO Jake was the one with the SKS, George had the .40 and Billy had the .22. Why else would Billy freak out? He knew CRsr was going to die, but Jake was supposed to kill him. No Billy and George sent the smallest and weakest into ambush and kill two grown men. Probably against their constitional rights to revoke the dp clause, but IMO I would love to see it happen.

Interesting thoughts, great first post! Welcome to Websleuths!!!

 

[Skully67]

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Deviant art.

 

[Betty P]

At any point, can AW get time off her 30 year sentence for good behavior?

No.

She received a 30 yr mandatory prison sentence, which means she has to serve 30 years. Specified in her plea agreement.

Rhoden family murders update: Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Pike County court

During a hearing Friday in Pike County, Angela Wagner pleaded guilty in one of the highest-profile investigations in Ohio history.

www.dispatch.com

 

[arielilane]

What did she say about Jake having bedbugs? Keep calm even if the bedbugs bite?
I assume these calls are also around the same time Jake and GW4 were having screaming arguments in their truck?

I too heard "bedbugs" and didn't see any mention of it by a reporter. Re-listened to a portion of the trial and here it is:


Time stamp 5:02
AW & JW (AW provides JW with advice from an attorney)
Date: July 20, 2018
AW: Are you alright?
JW: I’m fine.
AW: are you listening to me? He gave me this piece of advice until he gets to talk to you, don’t talk with anybody, don’t answer no questions, and remain calm, and you probably got bed bugs so remain calm and don’t get angry, control yourself.

 

[Betty P]

At any point, can AW get time off her 30 year sentence for good behavior?

No.

She received a 30 yr mandatory prison sentence, which means she has to serve 30 years. Specified in her plea agreement.

Rhoden family murders update: Angela Wagner pleads guilty in Pike County court

During a hearing Friday in Pike County, Angela Wagner pleaded guilty in one of the highest-profile investigations in Ohio history.

www.dispatch.com

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/Angenette5


Trying to listen (again) to wiretaps from in OH v. #GeorgeWagner. In one, Angela tells GW4: "They're going to have to show evidence, George. But look, they don't have to show evidence if they got one witness." GW4 then talks people being subpoenaed.

AW: "This is what's been going through the grapevine that I've collected information on: they don't have anything. They don't have witnesses, they don't have nothing. Mom, is what they're going to try to use as a witness. They're going to try to use a family member.”

GW4 agrees. Then they talk about other people. Angela doesn't understand why they (BCI) think Rita Newcomb (Angela's mother) will be a witness. This is about the grand jury proceedings in 2018

When George is going to disagree with his mom and say something he thinks she might not like he says, "mom, I love you" and then says what he's going to say.

GW4 talks about if they get charged, they all need their own attorney. "That way you have 5 attorneys going after Ohio and not just one.”

Angela thinks they don't have anything. What's the grand jury going to do? They're going to see they don't have anything and say "do you want us to keep going?”

Angela is then worried that "the media" will be there. At the grand jury proceedings.

In another call, George tells Angela "the best attorney is going to be yours." <-- interesting to hear now since Angela ended up testifying against GW4

Angela Wagner giving Jake advice from an attorney: "don't talk to anybody. Don't answer no questions and remain calm, you probably got (unintelligible) so remain calm, watch what you say, don't get angry. Control yourself.”

Jake responds, "okie doke." Angela asks Jake to tell George the same thing.

There's another call from Aug 2018 where George and Angela talk about the "bug detector" and GW4 says they think I bought my mom and bug detector to pick up bugs. Listening device. Angela says "oh my god. That's about as dumb as your tattoo.”

Angela then questions why they're talking about George's tattoo and not his dad's "crazy thing." That's the scorpion tattoo on Billy's right finger