OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#43

[Jonas_Klein]

I refuse to "like" or be a part of the posts here "troubleshooting" the Wagners' moves in these murders. I can't believe Websleuths condones such. JM very strong Opinion. I see no place for these posts here. TY

Please explain what you mean

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I refuse to "like" or be a part of the posts here "troubleshooting" the Wagners' moves in these murders. I can't believe Websleuths condones such. JM very strong Opinion. I see no place for these posts here. TY

What do you mean, if Jake and his family did do this crime than they need to execute him, Brother,Mom,Dad,and both Grandmothers.

 

[Cool Cats]

What do you mean, if Jake and his family did do this crime than they need to execute him, Brother,Mom,Dad,and both Grandmothers.

Not grandmothers. (We don't know if the grandmother's knew beforehand.) Very possible they knew nothing until after the fact. Of course if they knew before it happened that is a different story.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Please explain what you mean

Yes, please explain what you mean, Loomis 124. I'm lost. TIA

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I refuse to "like" or be a part of the posts here "troubleshooting" the Wagners' moves in these murders. I can't believe Websleuths condones such. JM very strong Opinion. I see no place for these posts here. TY

You haven't been on here very long have you? No one forces you to like or participate in anything on WS.

People are entitled to their theories and opinions on here. Even you.
I for one enjoy reading them all whether I agree with them or not.
JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Not grandmothers. (We don't know if the grandmother's knew beforehand.) Very possible they knew nothing until after the fact. Of course if they knew before it happened that is a different story.

That’s what I mean Cool Cat sorry if I didn’t explain good enough but somebody bought bulletproof vest before the Rhodens were killed, store them in their house was present when revenge talks to harm LE and escape plan talks and someone notarized forged documents before Hanna was killed knowing that was a felony and punishable with jail time, the grandmothers new the Rhodens where not going to be around to say anything against them. JMO

 

[Jayejayehilltop]

You haven't been on here very long have you? No one forces you to like or participate in anything on WS.

People are entitled to their theories and opinions on here. Even you.
I for one enjoy reading them all whether I agree with them or not.
JMO

I too enjoy reading all of them whether i agree or not.

 

[Loomis124]

Please explain what you mean

I'm talking about the posts discussing what the Ws could have done in order to not caught. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

Yes, please explain what you mean, Loomis 124. I'm lost. TIA

The posts about what the Ws could have done better in this crime.

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

I'm talking about the posts discussing what the Ws could have done in order to not caught. JMO

What’s wrong with that? It’s all speculation. Everyone here thought they murderers committed the perfect murder. I was just dissecting their mistakes, it’s public info.

 

[Gracie55]

The Ohio river is very close by. I’m not sure why they kept things like the silencer and security system wow how dumb can U be. They were even dumber bc LE let them get confident thinking they done got away with it. Wrong

I'd imagine they wanted it where they knew where it was rather than at the mercy of whoever might stumble on it. (I mean you never know when the river might change course, right?). They say criminals always make a mistake, right?

 

[Gracie55]

What’s wrong with that? It’s all speculation. Everyone here thought they murderers committed the perfect murder. I was just dissecting their mistakes, it’s public info.

Did people think that, or did le want the Ws to think they were very clever so they'd get overconfident? Which apparently they did!

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

Hindsight is 20/20, but the Wags should have took as much care in discarding evidence as they did in committing these crimes. AW should have been in charge of discarding/destroying evidence as soon as they returned home. Everyone strip off all clothes,guns,silencers, & any loot into a trash bag. Silencers & guns thrown separately into different bodies of water. Clothes,cell phones, etc burnt & placed in trash bags to be discarded 30-40 miles away. Plastic covering every inch of whatever vehicle they used and detailed immediately. The men could have assisted AW once they were through showering. I cant imagine the scene at 260 Peterson Road around 9-10AM that morning as they prepared for notification. JMO

 

[ohioexpat63]

I believe those that were in doubt of the murders being solved bought into the nonsense the case went cold and/or it was a perfect crime because LE did a phenomenal job of keeping a lid on the evidence. Just a year after the murders LE openly admitted they were laser focused on W4. We don't yet know when the W4 became the target of the investigation. It'll all play out at trial. JMO

IF criminals were so smart there wouldn't be a need for jails. We assumed the Ws did a spectacular job in covering their tracks because we don't know the evidence against them. We can better assess the quality of evidence gathered when trial commences. JMO

 

[Puzzles8]

Did anyone else notice they did a search of 845 Bethel Hill Rd. 7/13/17 and have 318 photos and 3 pp inventory!! This was from Cool Cats reference to the short video clip.

Also, "a list of guns"
Pike County murders: Court documents reveal new details

As I understand it, 845 Bethel is a trailer (s?) on a large piece of land. I think it is owned by FW.
Did the W4 live in that trailer once? Maybe before the purchase of the Peterson house? Did anyone live there after the W4's moved out?
(And more importantly - did it have bed bugs or chickens? JK!!!!!!!)

 

[Deleted member 237253]

Pretty crazy to think they planned this massacre out by watching a stupid movie. Shows how incompetent the Wags really are. Loopholes in their stories, in their exposing of evidence, forging documents, vacation turned into a move, JW losing his cellphone which "had the password" to his old Facebook account, the tattoo. Shopping for all the equipment at Wal-Mart.. It's insane to think we thought these were the perfect crimes.

Any evidence that could be used against them should have been incinerated in a forge, not thrown in a well on their property. They made lots of mistakes.

 

[Puzzles8]

Pretty crazy to think they planned this massacre out by watching a stupid movie. Shows how incompetent the Wags really are. Loopholes in their stories, in their exposing of evidence, forging documents, vacation turned into a move, JW losing his cellphone which "had the password" to his old Facebook account, the tattoo. Shopping for all the equipment at Wal-Mart.. It's insane to think we thought these were the perfect crimes.

Any evidence that could be used against them should have been incinerated in a forge, not thrown in a well on their property. They made lots of mistakes.

Can you share more of the story of JW losing his phone. Didn't know about that.
TIA

 

[twt11]

Does anyone have a summary of the evidence that has been gathered that led LE to the Wagners? I have seen bits and pieces but not the full story. Thanks

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

@twt11

 

[Puzzles8]

@twt11

Thank you! This helps a lot!