OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#43

[Deleted member 239597]

JMO, according to what prosecution has said, they did threaten DeWine and Reader and those threats were taken seriously. Just because a specific charge wasn't brought against them for this activity doesn't mean it didn't happen or that they don't have evidence to back it up.

Pike County murders: George Wagner IV ‘most vocal’ about DeWine revenge, prosecutors say

What the first court appearances revealed about the Pike County murders investigation

There seem to be a number of other possible charges that W's could be subject to. We're assuming here not all were brought by the prosecution for the sake of KISS (Keep It Simple..). These and possible federal charges could be brought later if needed.

Threatening..... another huge one they missed with these indictments is child endangerment on THREE counts. Corruption of the morals of a child.... on THREE COUNTS.... I think more charges can be brought up still unless there is a specific time period from the actual incident that took place and the specific charge they can be brought up on them. For instance a murder might be that a person can be arrested in any amount of time frame including years from now....but maybe the threats could have a year cap on them and same with the other charges? I don't know but with Law that is certainly a possibility..... I know discrimination charges read that way it must be brought up I think in the State of Ct. within a year of the incident to where the person was discriminated against.

 

[Elley Mae]

My 2 cents is that the fact that after the Rhoden's left pike county to move to Alaska during an active investigation of five brutal murders warrants such an action. You can't take the reasoning behind someone you suspect for that move seriously when you have mounting evidence against them. So this into account I think this could be taken into consideration as well if they do feel they are a risk of escaping. Threats too are threats....if they are caught and one get's out they are to break the others out? If I heard that correctly in the pretrial hearings or indictments.....I forgot which.

I know you meant Wagner’s moving to Alaska.


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[Elley Mae]

So the LE found the Bulletproof Vest after the Wagners came back from Alaska or before they left Ohio. Did the Wagners hide the vest for a few months? Does anyone know?

During the back and forth between attorneys it was revealed two bulletproof vests were seized by officials in May and were found in Wagner’s son’s room inside her home.
Owen also requested all documents and evidence relating to when the bulletproof vests were found and purchased.

Purchase of bulletproof vests at center of charges against Wagner matriarch

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Somewhat OT but worth the alert.



Scioto County Health Department Warns of Psychotic Behavior Associated with Unknown Drug - Scioto Post

 

[Cool Cats]

Where is your photo proof, No matter what male/female and starter plants are consider full grown street value even seeds, when you get caught but LE.

Photo proof? I was simply quoting and linking an article. Ask the 3 sources quoted in the article. Thankx.

#1.) Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine told the Dayton Daily News.........

#2.) CBS This Morning reported that the street value of the marijuana found is nearly $500,000......

#3.)..... Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk told Dispatch reporters that at least one was indoors and there appeared to be several hundred plants.....

4 possible motives in Pike County Ohio murders

 

[Cool Cats]

My 2 cents is that the fact that after the Rhoden's left pike county to move to Alaska during an active investigation of five brutal murders warrants such an action. You can't take the reasoning behind someone you suspect for that move seriously when you have mounting evidence against them. So this into account I think this could be taken into consideration as well if they do feel they are a risk of escaping. Threats too are threats....if they are caught and one get's out they are to break the others out? If I heard that correctly in the pretrial hearings or indictments.....I forgot which.

Special Prosecutor Angela Canepa referred to the "threats and escape" conversations made by the Wagner 4 ( in Fred's presence) during Fred's bail hearing and during George Wagner the 4th's bail hearing.

She was using that information to keep Fred's bail high, and to keep GW4 from getting bail.

They wanted to move to Alaska for years and had visited there 3 times, according to their pastor, but yes, it does look suspicious when they move right at the time of major searches on their properties and at the time of being laser focused by the A G.

 

[Cool Cats]

I think the grows will become part of any trials, if there are trials. I'm not trashing the R family just playing devil's advocate. We don't know exactly what evidence the LE has against the 4 W's. I do feel that if their cases go to trial the defense will have to bring forth something as an alternative senario to why the R's were murdered. They will continue to downplay the custody issue and most likely offer another reason to cast reasonable doubt. I believe it could be the grows. jmo

Yes absolutely! The defense would be remiss to not offer up other possible killers and other motives/scenarios including but not limited to the marijuana grows.
Doing that would help add reasonable doubt.

The marijuana grows are a fact of the case and shouldn't be construed as someone wanting to bash the victims. It is what it is and could be, and probably will be, brought up by the defense in court.....My 2 Cents......

 

[Deleted member 239597]

I know you meant Wagner’s moving to Alaska.


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Yes thank you.... I am terrible with proofing before hitting enter thank you

 

[Whiskers16]

Hi all, we are nearing page 50 so I went ahead and created the next thread. Please continue discussion on Thread #44, this thread is now closed.