OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#44

[Caylee Advocate]

Actually, Chris was closer to TR.

 

[rsd1200]

Don't know their names but I think they work for Fred. I recognize them from the Flying W Farms Website, working with the horses or dogs or both.

I think that's FW's son and dil.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Yes I agree and want to know why the cowards shot him? Why Kenny? Gary maybe because he happened to be living with Chris, but Kenny?

Chris Sr was killed first according to autopsy report, JMO the Wagners killed CRSR first then they used his trailer for a place to wait GR walked in the door and that’s when the gun was pressed against his head and shot that’s how he got that mark, afterwards they worked their way to FRs and on to DRs Kenny the was last, they killed him just to throw off suspicion of the Wagners 4 that’s a shame Kenny probably though he opened his doors up to friends instead he opened his door to a pack wolfs.

 

[Dudly]

Actually, Chris was closer to TR.

With TR managing BBL and CRsr doing a lot of work there, they would be in contact a lot more but I did not know if that meant they were closer. You probably know better than I.

 

[Dudly]

Chris Sr was killed first according to autopsy report, JMO the Wagners killed CRSR first then they used his trailer for a place to wait GR walked in the door and that’s when the gun was pressed against his head and shot that’s how he got that mark, afterwards they worked their way to FRs and on to DRs Kenny the was last, they killed him just to throw off suspicion of the Wagners 4 that’s a shame Kenny probably though he opened his doors up to friends instead he opened his door to a pack wolfs.

The autopsy report did not say CRsr was shot first. The medical Examiner does not make claims like that. They just state what they observe.

 

[Cool Cats]

I think that's FW's son and dil.

I think that's FW's son and dil.

Thankx! That explains why I've seen photos of them before. There are many photos online of Fred's horses and dogs and pigs etc....from the Flying W Farms Website, and photos of people with animals, so I thought they were actually employees.

I was curious if Fred's older son would come to court and support his mother, or even if they have a relationship at all. Details are sketchy.

We know now that RW is close to GW3 and was with him when he was arrested. And we know she visits him in jail or at least communicates with him, but it would be nice for her to have support from her other brother and sister -in-law.

 

[Loomis124]

The autopsy report did not say CRsr was shot first. The medical Examiner does not make claims like that. They just state what they observe.

This article is very informative as to the shots.

Rhodens shot in head at point-blank range

 

[Loomis124]

Actually, Chris was closer to TR.

Where has Brady been all this time? JMO

 

[Loomis124]

Chris Sr was killed first according to autopsy report, JMO the Wagners killed CRSR first then they used his trailer for a place to wait GR walked in the door and that’s when the gun was pressed against his head and shot that’s how he got that mark, afterwards they worked their way to FRs and on to DRs Kenny the was last, they killed him just to throw off suspicion of the Wagners 4 that’s a shame Kenny probably though he opened his doors up to friends instead he opened his door to a pack wolfs.

Rhodens shot in head at point-blank range

 

[Loomis124]

The autopsy report did not say CRsr was shot first. The medical Examiner does not make claims like that. They just state what they observe.

Notice coroner:

Rhodens shot in head at point-blank range

 

[IceIce9]

The autopsy report did not say CRsr was shot first. The medical Examiner does not make claims like that. They just state what they observe.

It was observed that CRsr’s body was more decomposed, so he would have been dead longer, and likely shot first.

 

[Loomis124]

I haven't had much time to post recently, but just wanted to point out something very, very important, IMO. There has been countless discussions about FW and her charges. One word can make all the difference. FW is charged for Perjury because she lied to the GJ in July 2018 about the PURCHASE of bullet proof vests. IMO, she purchased these (and other items) on her Amazon account, which is a very big part of her Discovery presented by the Prosecution. Very Big Difference than what has been discussed here.

Purchase of bulletproof vests at center of charges against Wagner matriarch

 

[Johnny B Bad]

The autopsy report did not say CRsr was shot first. The medical Examiner does not make claims like that. They just state what they observe.

They do say he was decomposed more than the other victims so does that mean he was dead longer?

 

[Dudly]

They also owned Defiance Farms in Peebles, which brought in mucho money. The FB account is still active and shows pictures and prices of their animals that AW posted for sale. And JW and GW4 owned and drove a semi, plus worked as diesel mechanics. Just saying... Thanks, CC!

Pictures and prices doesn't mean they were making big money. The specialty animal business is very fickle. Quite often the people lose their hiney. Just asked the people that were paying $25,000 for ostriches then trying to get a few hundred out of them a short time later. Apparently the semi-truck JW and BWIV were driving got sold so that must not have been making money. There don't seem to be any record of JW or BWIV working full time as diesel mechanics that I have seen...

 

[Dudly]

They do say he was decomposed more than the other victims so does that mean he was dead longer?

We do not know what that means because it has not been made public what that might mean...

 

[OhioBlues]

"Prosecutors say Wagner purchased items online that show involvement in planning and execution of crimes."

Woman accused of lying to grand jury about Pike County murders appears in court

DOES THIS ALLOW US TO TALK ON WS as FW being a POI in the murders?

My guess would be no. I thought DeWine said that there were only 4 people involved.

That's JMO.

 

[Puzzles8]

Did the W4 have any obvious connections to BBL? Or it's owner RW? Or other Wad family members?

Did AW ever sell cars through SVTCo?

Does anyone know approximately when the semi was sold?

TIA
MOO

 

[Cool Cats]

It was observed that CRsr’s body was more decomposed, so he would have been dead longer, and likely shot first.

Or maybe he had more decomposition because he had more gunshot wounds or because of the location of the gunshot wounds. For example, he was the only one shot in the torso and extremities.

But the Chris Sr. crime scene was different from the others so it does look like, from that perspective, that he was shot earlier but if so
then they would have had to wait around for Gary--- which makes no sense. It would be like going after Chris Jr. and HR first, then waiting for Dana to come home from work.

At trials we won't hear from the Wagners how events unfolded but the prosecution witnesses, with their expert forensic testimony, can reconstruct details of the crime scenes and answer some questions like.....

Where was Chris Jr. found? Was Chris Sr. shot earlier? Why were Chris and or Gary dragged through Chris's house? Was Dana found near the front door ? What about the dogs? If there was no forced entry then how did they enter the 4 homes? Why Kenny? Where did the dollar bills come from? Why all the terrible aggressive overkill but less gunshots for HR and Kenny? Why those 8?

Biggest question? JUST WHY?

 

[rsd1200]

Thankx! That explains why I've seen photos of them before. There are many photos online of Fred's horses and dogs and pigs etc....from the Flying W Farms Website, and photos of people with animals, so I thought they were actually employees.

I was curious if Fred's older son would come to court and support his mother, or even if they have a relationship at all. Details are sketchy.

We know now that RW is close to GW3 and was with him when he was arrested. And we know she visits him in jail or at least communicates with him, but it would be nice for her to have support from her other brother and sister -in-law.

I only remember seeing him, and his wife, at that one hearing for his mother. I think that AW has some kin who comes to court, fairly regular. I kind of took it that he was showing support for his mother, and sis, but, the rest of the crew, maybe not so much.

 

[Betty P]

They also could have liked to hunt or fish or ride motorcycles together. They could have been better friends and enjoyed spending time together like playing cards and doing fireworks and picnics.

I know that I am closer to one brother than the others.

I think that we don't know yet.

Marijuana is legal in Ohio. Unfortunately, the growers/sellers that the state selected are all wealthy people. The wealthy aren't judged yet the working poor are judged harshly by some (not you) for trying to make ends meet.

BBM

Agree, good comment. Hopefully things will change.

BTW, I don't smoke, nor will I partake when it becomes available. I just feel other people shouldn't be judged for it.