OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#48

[Puzzles8]

I'm almost certain I read in one of the articles around the time of the arrests that Owen was a long time family attorney. She and at least one of the others have used him in various ways for years. Then again, she really thought everyone would think she's an honest, God fearing, old, woman. She probably believed everyone would think as highly of her as she thinks of herself.

I think the long time Wagner family attorney was John K. Clark. He was the one that proclaimed the Wagner's innocence to the public and claimed LE was "harassing" his clients.
Once FW was indicted, I think she dumped Clark and went with Owen.
Fredericka Wagner: A look at her property and assets

 

[Loomis124]

This is a good question, I don't know what legally must be disclosed to the press/public.
At best though, we must realize that what we are seeing are the summary pages of hundreds of pages of evidence.

We also have to remember that the majority of Discovery has been presented electronically, which the public has no access to.

 

[Loomis124]

I'm almost certain I read in one of the articles around the time of the arrests that Owen was a long time family attorney. She and at least one of the others have used him in various ways for years. Then again, she really thought everyone would think she's an honest, God fearing, old, woman. She probably believed everyone would think as highly of her as she thinks of herself.

Price, Rosenberger, and even Merean have represented the Ws. JMO. Dont feel like looking up all the links.

 

[Loomis124]

O/T but some have been following this and I have nowhere else to post link, so here goes.

State officials take major role in Portsmouth, Ohio, sex trafficking investigation

I'm following that slime, too! TY.

 

[Loomis124]

FSC, gas and oil?

 

[KentuckyMama]

I think the long time Wagner family attorney was John K. Clark. He was the one that proclaimed the Wagner's innocence to the public and claimed LE was "harassing" his clients.
Once FW was indicted, I think she dumped Clark and went with Owen.
Fredericka Wagner: A look at her property and assets

I was wrong. Thank you for the correct information. I thought I remembered reading that she had a lawyer when had used for years, I was wrong about who it was.

I'm looking forward to the first two trials, but not to the constant, dramatic, theatrics from her current lawyer. He makes my head hurt. Perhaps we should make a game out of how many times he waves his arms, or talks out of turn, or lies. Might make it more bearable.

 

[Betty P]

We also have to remember that the majority of Discovery has been presented electronically, which the public has no access to.

If the law says the public can view the summary documents (not info about evidence, etc. that could prevent a fair trial) then the court has to provide it. They could print the relevant documents or download them to a portable thumb drive, etc. That's also why anyone requesting copies of the documents may have to pay a copy fee or something similar.

JMO

Pike County Court Rules

http://www.pikecountycourt.org/rules.pdf

 

[Loomis124]

I was wrong. Thank you for the correct information. I thought I remembered reading that she had a lawyer when had used for years, I was wrong about who it was.

I'm looking forward to the first two trials, but not to the constant, dramatic, theatrics from her current lawyer. He makes my head hurt. Perhaps we should make a game out of how many times he waves his arms, or talks out of turn, or lies. Might make it more bearable.

He's the Drama Queen attorney. Lol. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

FSC, gas and oil?

As in "The Chillicothe Natural Gas and Oil Company"

The Chillicothe Natural Gas And Oil Company (-) - Ohio companies database

 

[Loomis124]

May God bless the Rhoden and Gilley families and give them peace.

 

[Loomis124]

In a couple of hours, it will be Fredericka Carol Wagner's birthday. May she spend it in agony and despair. JMO

 

[Loomis124]

The Chillicothe Natural Gas And Oil Company (-) - Ohio companies database

 

[Betty P]

The Chillicothe Natural Gas And Oil Company (-) - Ohio companies database

?

 

[sunshineray]

He's the Drama Queen attorney. Lol. JMO

Reminds me of Rodney Daingerfield with those shrugs and waving arms.

 

[Betty P]

I don't know much about this horrible hacking stuff, awful, but remembering the night of these horrible murders, the mom got a disturbing call at work from her daughter that made her cry I think. Would LE know word for word that conversation? I hope that they all got caught not for their criminal stupidity alone, but for their deviousness.

So far that's a rumor, but IF it happened, LE probably couldn't retrieve a recording of the actual conversation. LE might have found something if they had zeroed in immediately on Jake Wagner and retrieved his phone. Even then, he may not have been recording Hanna Rhoden's calls as he was listening in on them.

 

[Betty P]

Reminds me of Rodney Daingerfield with those shrugs and waving arms.

LOL, now you're going to make me go back and watch her hearings again.

 

[Betty P]

Now, don't quote me on this, but I think I remember reading that Websleuths will reimburse users for the cost of some court related documents.
If not, I'd be willing to chip in. Problem for me is that I don't live anywhere near Pike County.
Another thought might be to contact a MSM reporter that has been writing/airing articles about the murders. It seems they have some sort of access to official documents that we don't. If nothing else, at least they could guide us as to where to look.

I've never heard that, IDK. I don't think the cost would be that great, though.

 

[Ann99]

Loomis and Fresca
I’m working on it. I think I’ve figured something out, but will need a little time away from the various names to clear my thinking. Not trying to be mysterious, I’m just being cautious. Also thinking of TOS

In the mean time, I’ll put something else out there for discussion if anyone is interested.

 

[Ann99]

This may have been discussed long ago. Time to revisit?
Tragedy at Flying W Farms 1986

http://www.amha.org/docs/default-source/default-document-library/flyingw_febmar2007.pdf

Fredericka stated:

“That night we had a terrible electrical storm. Our mini horse barn caught fire and burned to the ground, taking twenty-two minis with it. Blue Boy was one of them; I still struggle not to cry when I think about it. It is one of those things I will never get over.

My son and husband tried to rescue the horses.

They were both burned, Bobby pretty badly.

The barn burned so quickly, I am just thankful they got out alive. They tried but could not rescue any of the horses.

Sadly, I wish I could say Blue lived to be 30 and went peacefully to sleep in the pasture, but that is not the case.

“The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, Blessed be the Name of the Lord.” Amen.
End

One more brief account. FW story evolves.

Fire destroys family's top show horses


Fredericka Stated:

'You know ... a mother's nightmare is that someone might call in the middle of the night and say their kids have been hurt,' she said.

'But a horseman's nightmare is fire.'

“Twenty of the show horses, only about 30 inches tall but valued at nearly $1 million, died in the blazing barn...

'Little Blue Boy, the little white stallion, was worth at least half of that,' said Fredericka Wagner, who owns Flying W Farms with husband Robert.”

End

Was there an insurance payout on this tragic fire?

Twenty horses were valued at One Million Dollars,
FW stated Little Blue Boy was worth at least half of that.

Very, very suspicious that Blue Boy was put into the barn w the mare in the same stall that night. That’s NOT standard breeding practice. Those actions were out of the ordinary and opposite of standards.

Poor Bobby was probably devastated by this fire, the loss of the horses and his painful injuries. Robin too. Innocent people w no intent to harm.
Some other people, cruel individuals without compassion

Since that time, Wagner Farms Property/Homes have had a few more fires. The number of fires is unusual.

Is Insurance money keeping Wagners afloat?

 

[Cool Cats]

Wagner Family Arraignments
77 PHOTOS
6:23 p.m. EDT Apr. 2, 2019.......Lots of photos of the 6 arrested, as well as family member photos of both the defendant's and the victim's families in the Court Gallery.

Wagner Arraignments