OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#48

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Thankx for confirming that Fred's church is from a converted barn---that's what I have always known about it. I know Fred's group home residents are not living in a converted barn, it's a modular.
My apologies, I must’ve misunderstood/misread your op about residents living in the converted church/barn. At times, my eyes play tricks on me when I read from my phone and not my computer.
 
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I believe they gave a lot of thought into picking AC for this case. We have only seen a small example of how tough she can be with FW's motions. She stood her ground and prevailed...
In what way(s)? Just because the judge decided not to dismiss? She’s better than junk but I’m still not sold on her but we’ll see
 
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CC, did you notice that Junk was trying to run the show on his side today? Jumping up every chance he got. I pray we are not going to have to endure his empty comments throughout these trials. I also noticed Judge D specifically addressed AC a couple of times, and throughout the hearing, she looked disgusted to even be sitting beside Junk. JMO. He needs to shut up and sit down, IMO.

Ok. Junk did jump up a lot but there was a moment when Canepa was smiling and making a remark to him per usual so I'm not seeing her being disgusted with him.

Interesting, as someone pointed out, George looked like he was ready to fall asleep and his attorney had to tell him to say "your honor."

Well here's something we can keep expecting to see....The camera zooming in for a close up of the scorpion tattoo, which also showed him nervously scratching his hands.
 
  • #364
Also, I noticed Ms. Geneva seemed a little upset, God bless her heart. Maybe it was just because her daughters weren't able to be with her today. JMO

She probably is aware that LE dubbed Billy the mastermind. And if Billy and her son Chris had been really good friends, it is just extra betrayal.

Here's how she looked during Billy's (Gw3) very first court appearance, arraignment and bond hearing, pleading not guilty.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2018/12/04/PCIN/7f952293-23b8-47d1-a6ff-2d0bcf10848
 
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My apologies, I must’ve misunderstood/misread your op about residents living in the converted church/barn. At times, my eyes play tricks on me when I read from my phone and not my computer.

Oh no problem Mitten. Glad to see you posting. There will be a lot to discuss this July!
 
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Rhoden pretrials continue with defense motions - Times Gazette
POSTED ON MAY 16, 2019 BY TIMES GAZETTE


Notice Billy's right hand is photo shopped in this photo---to EDIT OUT the scorpion tattoo....WHY? o_O Click on photo to enlarge it then enlarge it some more. Very clearly there is a different hand, photo shopped, onto Billy's hand...:rolleyes:

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Murder suspect George “Billy” Wagner III talks with defense attorney Mark Collins following Wednesday’s pretrial hearing.
 
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Rhoden pretrials continue with defense motions - Times Gazette
POSTED ON MAY 16, 2019 BY TIMES GAZETTE


Notice Billy's right hand is photo shopped in this photo---to EDIT OUT the scorpion tattoo....WHY? o_O Click on photo to enlarge it then enlarge it some more. Very clearly there is a different hand, photo shopped, onto Billy's hand...:rolleyes:

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Murder suspect George “Billy” Wagner III talks with defense attorney Mark Collins following Wednesday’s pretrial hearing.

Why would the Times Gazette do that?
 
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Why would the Times Gazette do that?

That's what I want you to tell me!!! Anyone have any ideas? Obviously it was very deliberately done for that specific photo.

I'm going to look back to see if they have any other past photos that may have been photo shopped..:confused:
 
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Rhoden pretrials continue with defense motions - Times Gazette
POSTED ON MAY 16, 2019 BY TIMES GAZETTE


Notice Billy's right hand is photo shopped in this photo---to EDIT OUT the scorpion tattoo....WHY? o_O Click on photo to enlarge it then enlarge it some more. Very clearly there is a different hand, photo shopped, onto Billy's hand...:rolleyes:

web1_Billy1.jpg

Murder suspect George “Billy” Wagner III talks with defense attorney Mark Collins following Wednesday’s pretrial hearing.

I can see the tattoo now. Did they switch the photo back to the un-shopped version?
 
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I can see the tattoo now. Did they switch the photo back to the un-shopped version?

I didn't think to mention it --- THEY PHOTO SHOPPED IN A DIFFERENT TATTOO...:eek: :confused:

NOTICE that it is a completely different tattoo. I thought Billy had tattooed OVER the scorpion tattoo but if you look at the end of the video you will see the camera zooms in for a close up of the scorpion tattoo. Billy still has the scorpion tattoo.

Why photo shop in a different tattoo? Photo shopping a hand in, with no tattoos is one thing, but why a completely different tattoo?

Not a big deal but is someone trying to make Billy look better?
 
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I didn't think to mention it --- THEY PHOTO SHOPPED IN A DIFFERENT TATTOO...:eek: :confused:

NOTICE that it is a completely different tattoo. I thought Billy had tattooed OVER the scorpion tattoo but if you look at the end of the video you will see the camera zooms in for a close up of the scorpion tattoo. Billy still has the scorpion tattoo.

Why photo shop in a different tattoo? Photo shopping a hand in, with no tattoos is one thing, but why a completely different tattoo?

Not a big deal but is someone trying to make Billy look better?

I was thinking the tattoo in that photo looks different from the original. Could be wrong, but it looks a little different.

ETA: I just checked some other photos and I think it's the same tattoo. Odd, though, that they photo-shopped it out, then restored it.
 
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The photo shop makes the tattoo look like a face of a monster
 
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I was thinking the tattoo in that photo looks different from the original. Could be wrong, but it looks a little different.

ETA: I just checked some other photos and I think it's the same tattoo. Odd, though, that they photo-shopped it out, then restored it.
They didn’t re add it they just added some lines on the right side of the tattoo
 
  • #374
IMO it's the same tattoo. I think it's the angle of his hand and the way the shadows hit it that makes it look different. (But then again, my eyes ain't the greatest anymore.)
 
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I was thinking the tattoo in that photo looks different from the original. Could be wrong, but it looks a little different.

ETA: I just checked some other photos and I think it's the same tattoo. Odd, though, that they photo-shopped it out, then restored it.

It may be the angle but it looked different to me.
 
  • #377
I believe Junk realized he can get attention showboating in a big case. I hope AC puts him on a short leash...
I agree! He sits there like a lump on a log. When he does stand up, he can't even stand up straight, he leans over with his hands on the table to keep himself propped up! But then again, we have JW who sits there straight up and down like a board in his chair, but then again, maybe the shock vest doesn't allow much slumping. LOL This is all JMO.
 
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I can see the tattoo now. Did they switch the photo back to the un-shopped version?
I've tried to load this article at least 5 times and all I get is the heading - no article or pic. I kept trying thinking that it just wasn't loading.
 
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I've tried to load this article at least 5 times and all I get is the heading - no article or pic. I kept trying thinking that it just wasn't loading.

Here is the entire article for you......

......Click on this photo, then enlarge and you can see the outline of a fake hand photo shopped over Billy's hand to show a different tattoo.
The fake tattoo is shaped like an animal (black legs, black ears, black tail, design lines on body) with designs and dark lines in it. They didn't want to show the scorpion tattoo. This is a fake hand/tattoo, photo shopped to COMPLETELY HIDE AND COVER the scorpion tattoo.

I would like to know why. Is it because it might be the tattoo that is in the evidence? Are they concerned that someone might be offended by it? Are they trying to make Billy look better by not having an 8 segmented scorpion body on his trigger finger?

Rhoden pretrials continue with defense motions

By Tom Corrigan - [email protected]

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Murder suspect George “Billy” Wagner III talks with defense attorney Mark Collins following Wednesday’s pretrial hearing.

For the second day in a row on Wednesday, Pike County Court of Common Pleas Judge Randy Deering oversaw a hearing designed to steer further towards trial the case against one of the persons accused in the 2016 Rhoden murders.

Tuesday saw the youngest defendant, Edward “Jake” Wagner face Deering for a pretrial hearing.

On Wednesday, Edward Wagner’s father, George Wagner III, another suspect in the murders, sat in front of Deering for yet another of his pretrial sessions.

A total of six members of the Pike County Wagner clan were arrested in November in connection with what’s been called the massacre of eight people, most members of the Rhoden family. Those six suspects have been in and out of Deering’s court for multiple pretrial hearings since then.

At this point in the judicial process, most of the courtroom happenings in the case seem to revolve around defense motions for discovery, evidence held by prosecutors and law enforcement officials.

“There’s a voluminous amount of discovery,” said one of George Wagner’s court-appointed attorneys, Mark Collins.

Collins comment may be a bit of an understatement. He and Angela Canepa, a special prosecutor assigned to the case by the Ohio Attorney General’s Office, talked about sharing multiple computer hard drives of information. Collins mentioned receiving five discs of information from the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation alone. At the same time, Collins said he and his team had received about half of the discovery to which they expect to have access.

As previously reported, discovery already asked for by Wagner III’s defense team covers a wide array of materials including autopsy reports for each of the victims, X-rays of those victims, as well as autopsy photos, which in some instances number as high as 140 for an individual victim.

Further materials listed as discovery in documents include, for example, 530 photos from a search of 260 Peterson Rd., Peebles, possibly a previous residence of one of the suspects or victims. The defense team also asked for photos from each of the other murder sites, along with what is named as 3D scans of the multiple murder sites. The discovery list totals the amount of materials asked for in at least two places in the paperwork provided by the court. At one point, the total reaches 2,448 pages, two videos, 18 audio files and two 3D scans. A second running total lists 2,665 pages plus one video.

In addition to discovery issues, defense attorneys for each of the suspects all have filed voluminous pretrial motions. George Wagner III’s attorneys have filed a total of 41 motions so far. More are expected. Many have to do with discovery questions.

On Wednesday, Deering ruled on only three motions, seemingly minor issues such as allowing a court stenographer to be present during behind-the-scenes conversations with the judge. Another motion allowed Wagner III to appear in court wearing civilian clothes as opposed to jail garb and with no visible signs of restraints such as handcuffs. Deering previously granted the same motion to Edward Wagner and other suspects in the overall case.

Each of the four persons charged directly with the murders are being held in separate jails without the possibility of bond.
 
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