OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #31

[rsd1200]

BBM

That's true. I am always aware that there are many people reading what I am writing. Maybe even the killer/killers. LE certainly is. I have tried to use only Initials. When Miz posted that, it had me looking back though my posts to see where I had mistakenly posted a full or last name. LOL. When I couldn't find anything I asked.

Even my personal comparisons, while true, I try never to give specific details as to where exactly I live in the region, if I use an uncle for comparison it might actually be another close kin, for example... A neighbor can be anyone I've ever lived near.

 

[rsd1200]

O/T: Love and 100% agree with this post. I am lucky to have a doctor who understands and manages my chronic pain but had an issue once with a pharmacist who I ended up reporting because she refused to fill my valid rx even though I had been coming there for years, putting me through very painful withdrawal. I, like many others with chronic pain, do not want to rely on pain killers but if it’s a choice between extreme pain and being in bed all day over small amounts of pain and being a functioning member of society, I think anyone would take the latter. The opioid crackdown has not thought about those with chronic illnesses/pain at all and I can completely see how someone could turn to heroin if they weren’t allowed to get the meds they need to not be in pain and function. It’s such a huge mess. -end rant-

I completely understand. The withdrawal from opiates is horrible. Folks who have never had to take them to control long-term, or permanent, pain, don't realize how long the withdrawal can go on, either.

 

[rsd1200]

Manta.com has this about Adams Health Solutions in Peebles, Ohio...

Adams Health Solutions is a privately held company in Peebles, OH and is a Single Location business. Categorized under Health Services. Our records show it was established in 2009 and incorporated in Ohio. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of 67000 and employs a staff of approximately 2.

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I can't find the dude. I'll try to keep looking, but, it seems that's about the time that a local grower got popped. He lived near BBL, iirc. That's what made me think that maybe CR1 and KR, had stepped into his place, but it wasn't so much about the weed.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I do, but, I took it that they were just trying to get someone to buy them a pack of smokes.

But...What if there was some truth to that statement by that young man? Didn't he further clarify that statement with "especially the younger R's"? I have never believed IJ's statement of that "joyriding" incident. I always thought that maybe they were out there to buy MJ but somehow the deal went sideways. Maybe they were out there for some OXY not MJ?

IMO the reason the PCSO and Reader never asked for the public's help is they didn't need it. They knew exactly who killed the R's from day one. The only help they asked for was in connection to the W's.

To me things are piling up here.

1. We have CR1's name on a medical business with RW and company.
2. We have RW involved in the medical clinic business.
3. We have the elder W's involved in the medical clinic/ health care business.
4. We have the elder W's owning a lot of property that was being rented out to people making and selling drugs.
Then
5. We have an incident on UHR that involved guns and clubs and drew serious LE attention.
6. We have an altercation between BW and CR1 involving custody of SW.
7. We have an altercation between CR2, DR and RCA that drew LE attention and ended up in court.
All of this happening around the same time just a few weeks prior to the murders.
8. Most of the major players, including in laws and girlfriends and boyfriends worked at BBL or lived there.

Did the R's with their rough and rowdy ways become too much of a liability for the "Boss Hoggs" of the county, the W's and RW and company?

I have a feeling that CR1 was only called to work at BBL when needed so once again why was CR1's name on those medical companies with RW and not TR who had worked for RW longer and was a full time employee?

I still remain certain the W's were involved in these murders and that it had a lot to do with drug trafficking.

JMO

 

[Nickandnora]

But...What if there was some truth to that statement by that young man? Didn't he further clarify that statement with "especially the younger R's"? I have never believed IJ's statement of that "joyriding" incident. I always thought that maybe they were out there to buy MJ but somehow the deal went sideways. Maybe they were out there for some OXY not MJ?

IMO the reason the PCSO and Reader never asked for the public's help is they didn't need it. They knew exactly who killed the R's from day one. The only help they asked for was in connection to the W's.

To me things are piling up here.

1. We have CR1's name on a medical business with RW and company.
2. We have RW involved in the medical clinic business.
3. We have the elder W's involved in the medical clinic/ health care business.
4. We have the elder W's owning a lot of property that was being rented out to people making and selling drugs.
Then
5. We have an incident on UHR that involved guns and clubs and drew serious LE attention.
6. We have an altercation between BW and CR1 involving custody of SW.
7. We have an altercation between CR2, DR and RCA that drew LE attention and ended up in court.
All of this happening around the same time just a few weeks prior to the murders.
8. Most of the major players, including in laws and girlfriends and boyfriends worked at BBL or lived there.

Did the R's with their rough and rowdy ways become too much of a liability for the "Boss Hoggs" of the county, the W's and RW and company?

I have a feeling that CR1 was only called to work at BBL when needed so once again why was CR1's name on those medical companies with RW and not TR who had worked for RW longer and was a full time employee?

I still remain certain the W's were involved in these murders and that it had a lot to do with drug trafficking.

JMO

#6 I believe has never been verified, the custody that LM was speaking of could have been connected to #7, as the woman charged was going through a court case to get custody of her children back. She was also alarmed the new charges were not in her favor. KMC , LM daughter also had a custody case going on.

 

[amauet1]

#6 I believe has never been verified, the custody that LM was speaking of could have been connected to #7, as the woman charged was going through a court case to get custody of her children back. She was also alarmed the new charges were not in her favor. KMC , LM daughter also had a custody case going on.

For these reason's and all the other's we have examined, is the reason I feel family involvement in these crimes. Some friends might know some of what was going on in the Rhoden's lives. But to me, only family would know all the many different troubles the Rhoden's were in, personal and outside of the family. Also, my understanding about CRsr and how he came about being in the mj/drug/pill business, is he used to hang with a V***e W***s who was sent to prison on drug charges. He may have learned the business from this person and carried on with it in his own way after his friend was incarcerated. It does seem strange that TR working at BBL was not the one who could be in business with RW. But then again, maybe he didn't have as much background in this type of operation and a business man would want someone who knows what their doing handling these delicate operations. I don't know that much about TR or BR1 to be able to include them in this.
I think for some reason that this crime was plotted/planned at BBL where a lot of people live/stay seasonally. It is a gathering place in the community and would be a good place for gossip, and gathering of info for someone who needed information. People always coming and going as it is a resort and that is expected. The "timing" of the crime was kinda perfect because of all the troubles in the Rhoden's live at the time. Look how many theories we have come up with. JMO

 

[rsd1200]

But...What if there was some truth to that statement by that young man? Didn't he further clarify that statement with "especially the younger R's"? I have never believed IJ's statement of that "joyriding" incident. I always thought that maybe they were out there to buy MJ but somehow the deal went sideways. Maybe they were out there for some OXY not MJ?

IMO the reason the PCSO and Reader never asked for the public's help is they didn't need it. They knew exactly who killed the R's from day one. The only help they asked for was in connection to the W's.

To me things are piling up here.

1. We have CR1's name on a medical business with RW and company.
2. We have RW involved in the medical clinic business.
3. We have the elder W's involved in the medical clinic/ health care business.
4. We have the elder W's owning a lot of property that was being rented out to people making and selling drugs.
Then
5. We have an incident on UHR that involved guns and clubs and drew serious LE attention.
6. We have an altercation between BW and CR1 involving custody of SW.
7. We have an altercation between CR2, DR and RCA that drew LE attention and ended up in court.
All of this happening around the same time just a few weeks prior to the murders.
8. Most of the major players, including in laws and girlfriends and boyfriends worked at BBL or lived there.

Did the R's with their rough and rowdy ways become too much of a liability for the "Boss Hoggs" of the county, the W's and RW and company?

I have a feeling that CR1 was only called to work at BBL when needed so once again why was CR1's name on those medical companies with RW and not TR who had worked for RW longer and was a full time employee?

I still remain certain the W's were involved in these murders and that it had a lot to do with drug trafficking.

JMO

Idk, if the kids had anything in their systems, or in those homes, they'd not have gotten burial assistance from the state. I think that CR1 bought that house for DR and the youngest ones, to make the living conditions better, all the way around, as I don't know how they managed before. If anything, he'd gotten some cash around that time, and was probably starting a new grow (KR's tray of plants).

I'm guessing that they partied at some point but to were nursing mothers. I don't think they'd take that risk. That leaves FR and nothing was found there either.

Did folks know Dad, Uncle, and Cousin, sold weed? Probably. Then the rumor runs downhill to the others, from there. I'm not saying they were angels but I don't think they allowed the kids to sell.

 

[rsd1200]

For these reason's and all the other's we have examined, is the reason I feel family involvement in these crimes. Some friends might know some of what was going on in the Rhoden's lives. But to me, only family would know all the many different troubles the Rhoden's were in, personal and outside of the family. Also, my understanding about CRsr and how he came about being in the mj/drug/pill business, is he used to hang with a V***e W***s who was sent to prison on drug charges. He may have learned the business from this person and carried on with it in his own way after his friend was incarcerated. It does seem strange that TR working at BBL was not the one who could be in business with RW. But then again, maybe he didn't have as much background in this type of operation and a business man would want someone who knows what their doing handling these delicate operations. I don't know that much about TR or BR1 to be able to include them in this.
I think for some reason that this crime was plotted/planned at BBL where a lot of people live/stay seasonally. It is a gathering place in the community and would be a good place for gossip, and gathering of info for someone who needed information. People always coming and going as it is a resort and that is expected. The "timing" of the crime was kinda perfect because of all the troubles in the Rhoden's live at the time. Look how many theories we have come up with. JMO

I think that's the dude I'm thinking about. Also, TR is so much older than CR1 and doesn't seem to have as much Hell Raisin' in his history. Tony was born in '67. KR born in '72, and CR1 was born in '75. TR has only one child, who is into his mid 20s now and has moved away from home. Maybe CR1 and KR were hungrier or just bigger risk takers.

 

[Betty P]

I think that's the dude I'm thinking about. Also, TR is so much older than CR1 and doesn't seem to have as much Hell Raisin' in his history. Tony was born in '67. KR born in '72, and CR1 was born in '75. TR has only one child, who is into his mid 20s now and has moved away from home. Maybe CR1 and KR were hungrier or just bigger risk takers.

I still can't get on board with the "family or friends did it" theory. If that were the case, why haven't LE been able to make an arrest? Four different crime scenes leaves a lot of opportunity to leave evidence behind. First time killers would be extremely lucky to fool police for 2 yrs. It would take knowledge, experience and a psychopathic mind to pull off a massacre on this scale, then return to regular lives in the same community as if nothing happened. Just show up at the next holiday reunion or birthday party as if everything is ok?

How would they manage to convince the rest of the surviving family members of their innocence? Surviving family were and still are devastated and grieving from these murders. To think they wouldn't pick up on something if another family member was the murderer seems pretty incredible. To assume they would know and protect those killers is beyond belief. Wouldn't happen. Do you really think matriarch GR or CR1's sisters and brothers would care nothing about the deaths of CR1, KR and their families? Hanna R? FR? CR2, just 16 years old? No way. They were a close knit family who know each other and cared about each other. No family member could hide it and none would forgive it.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I do, but, I took it that they were just trying to get someone to buy them a pack of smokes.

I have been thinking about that statement by the young smoker. If he was just trying to get a pack of cigarettes why would he specifically say that if you wanted pills the R's were the ones to see. Why wouldn't he say "if you want MJ then the R's are the ones to see. Buy me a pack of cigarettes and I will tell you all about it.". Or "if you want your car fixed see the R's" or "if you want to buy a used car see the R's"? Why would he specifically say pills unless he knew they were selling them?

 

[Betty P]

I think that's the dude I'm thinking about. Also, TR is so much older than CR1 and doesn't seem to have as much Hell Raisin' in his history. Tony was born in '67. KR born in '72, and CR1 was born in '75. TR has only one child, who is into his mid 20s now and has moved away from home. Maybe CR1 and KR were hungrier or just bigger risk takers.

How much hell-raising did CR1 have in his history? Other than an MJ grow op, is there evidence of anything else? IIRC, there's no record of arrests, traffic citations, etc. Worked hard, got married, raised a family. Up until his death when the grow op was revealed, he doesn't appear to be have been a wild person. Was successfully helping his cousin, GR, recover from addiction to hard drugs. He may not have been the church going type, liked to work on cars and compete in local derby races, but I'm not seeing anything to indicate he was wild or a hellraiser.

.

 

[Betty P]

I have been thinking about that statement by the young smoker. If he was just trying to get a pack of cigarettes why would he specifically say that if you wanted pills the R's were the ones to see. Why wouldn't he say "if you want MJ then the R's are the ones to see. Buy me a pack of cigarettes and I will tell you all about it.". Or "if you want your car fixed see the R's" or "if you want to buy a used car see the R's"? Why would he specifically say pills unless he knew they were selling them?

Do you guys have a link to anything confirming that someone said this about the Rhodens? Sorry, but you'll need to provide some proof. If you're stating something as fact, you need to provide a link. TIA.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

#6 I believe has never been verified, the custody that LM was speaking of could have been connected to #7, as the woman charged was going through a court case to get custody of her children back. She was also alarmed the new charges were not in her favor. KMC , LM daughter also had a custody case going on.

But didn't LM state that there was an altercation between CR1 and BW and JW over SW? He said that the W's wanted HMR to sign away her parental rights about 2 weeks prior to the murders. I could be remembering wrong but I think that is what he said.

JMO

 

[Betty P]

But didn't LM state that there was an altercation between CR1 and BW and JW over SW? He said that the W's wanted HMR to sign away her parental rights about 2 weeks prior to the murders. I could be remembering wrong but I think that is what he said.

JMO

I think there's been quite a bit of speculation about that, but we need to verify. I went through a lot of LM's interviews a week or so ago, but didn't find anything quite that specific. Maybe time to look again.

Ok, found something.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/new...arch-related-massacre/FFgqAlgjwfkNQyHKJXAyTK/

This is from last summer, when the W property was searched.

Jake Wagner was in a custody dispute with Hanna Rhoden, one of the victims, her grandfather Leonard Manley told WCPO-TV.

The girl who was the focus of the dispute was not at any of the locations where the massacre occurred, Manley said, though three young children were found alive.

https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/aut...-of-pike-county-massacre-victims-ex-boyfriend

Jake Wagner was in a custody dispute with Hanna Rhoden, one of the victims, according to Leonard Manley, her grandfather. The girl at the center of the custody dispute was not at any of the locations where the massacre occurred, Manley said, though several young children were found alive

.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Idk, if the kids had anything in their systems, or in those homes, they'd not have gotten burial assistance from the state. I think that CR1 bought that house for DR and the youngest ones, to make the living conditions better, all the way around, as I don't know how they managed before. If anything, he'd gotten some cash around that time, and was probably starting a new grow (KR's tray of plants).

I'm guessing that they partied at some point but to were nursing mothers. I don't think they'd take that risk. That leaves FR and nothing was found there either.

Did folks know Dad, Uncle, and Cousin, sold weed? Probably. Then the rumor runs downhill to the others, from there. I'm not saying they were angels but I don't think they allowed the kids to sell.

I don't think the kids were selling, at least not CR2 and HMR. But FR may have been acting as a delivery guy/ go between for some of his friends and school mates (when he was in high school). In other words it was dad's stuff but the younger ones were promoting it by telling everyone they knew took it that they could get it for them.

Does this even make sense? I am tired today.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Do you guys have a link to anything confirming that someone said this about the Rhodens? Sorry, but you'll need to provide some proof. If you're stating something as fact, you need to provide a link. TIA.

It was in one of the news articles. RSD1200 do you remember which one?

 

[rsd1200]

I still can't get on board with the "family or friends did it" theory. If that were the case, why haven't LE been able to make an arrest? Four different crime scenes leaves a lot of opportunity to leave evidence behind. First time killers would be extremely lucky to fool police for 2 yrs. It would take knowledge, experience and a psychopathic mind to pull off a massacre on this scale, then return to regular lives in the same community as if nothing happened. Just show up at the next holiday reunion or birthday party as if everything is ok?

How would they manage to convince the rest of the surviving family members of their innocence? Surviving family were and still are devastated and grieving from these murders. To think they wouldn't pick up on something if another family member was the murderer seems pretty incredible. To assume they would know and protect those killers is beyond belief. Wouldn't happen. Do you really think matriarch GR or CR1's sisters and brothers would care nothing about the deaths of CR1, KR and their families? Hanna R? FR? CR2, just 16 years old? No way. They were a close knit family who know each other and cared about each other. No family member could hide it and none would forgive it.

That's not what I'm saying. I just don't think that TR was tempted. He may have known about his brother's dabblings but not to what extent, nor want any part in them. Do I think that someone in the family could have played a role in this? Yes. Do I know for a fact that family can keep terrible secrets for eons? Yes. Can money buy you out of something you did? Absolutely.

As another thought:
I brought this up in another thread today. I'm gonna toss it out here. It is just a theory, I've not mentioned it before, b/c, well, it makes me uncomfortable, but, I know nothing, other than it is done. I've never had a link to back up my knowledge, till I stumbled across this one while researching in the other thread. They go out from loose states, to strict states, and drugs/cash come back.

Anyway, here it is.

An analysis of data from 107 pairs of bordering states2 throughout the country shows a relationship between the strictness of a state’s gun laws relative to its neighbor and the number of firearms recovered3 from that neighbor.4

Chicago is close to the borders of two states — Wisconsin and Indiana — that have weak gun laws. A 2014 report from the city of Chicago noted that 60 percent of guns used to commit crimes in Chicago from 2009 to 2013 originated outside of Illinois, and Indiana and Wisconsin were two of the biggest sources of recovered guns.5 And Illinois is not alone. (Ky. is shown in the diagram and is a pretty loose state,).

Ky, is also a well known state to most of the folks in this case. OH is seen as a stricter state too, given a score of 30 compared to Ky's ranking 8. Michigan, where, iirc, they traveled to, for cars and such, is even ranked as more strict, receiving a score of 36, yet Detroit has a ton of issues. Kentucky and Michigan are 28 points apart. Handguns must be registered with LE, in Michigan, and a permit is required to purchase from an individual.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-laws-stop-at-state-lines-but-guns-dont/

 

[Betty P]

That's not what I'm saying. I just don't think that TR was tempted. He may have known about his brother's dabblings but not to what extent, nor want any part in them. Do I think that someone in the family could have played a role in this? Yes. Do I know for a fact that family can keep terrible secrets for eons? Yes. Can money buy you out of something you did? Absolutely.

As another thought:
I brought this up in another thread today. I'm gonna toss it out here. It is just a theory, I've not mentioned it before, b/c, well, it makes me uncomfortable, but, I know nothing, other than it is done. I've never had a link to back up my knowledge, till I stumbled across this one while researching in the other thread. They go out from loose states, to strict states, and drugs/cash come back.

Anyway, here it is.

An analysis of data from 107 pairs of bordering states2 throughout the country shows a relationship between the strictness of a state’s gun laws relative to its neighbor and the number of firearms recovered3 from that neighbor.4

Chicago is close to the borders of two states — Wisconsin and Indiana — that have weak gun laws. A 2014 report from the city of Chicago noted that 60 percent of guns used to commit crimes in Chicago from 2009 to 2013 originated outside of Illinois, and Indiana and Wisconsin were two of the biggest sources of recovered guns.5 And Illinois is not alone. (Ky. is shown in the diagram and is a pretty loose state,).

Ky, is also a well known state to most of the folks in this case. OH is seen as a stricter state too, given a score of 30 compared to Ky's ranking 8. Michigan, where, iirc, they traveled to, for cars and such, is even ranked as more strict, receiving a score of 36, yet Detroit has a ton of issues. Kentucky and Michigan are 28 points apart. Handguns must be registered with LE, in Michigan, and a permit is required to purchase from an individual.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-laws-stop-at-state-lines-but-guns-dont/

I don't know about this theory. Ohio may have a few gun laws on the books, but, for the last decade or so, they haven't been enforced. In fact, the infamous state legislature and equally infamous Ohio Supreme Court decided that local cities and counties can't enact more restrictive gun laws within their jurisdictions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/30/us/30ohio.html

In addition, gun shows, Craigslist weapon sales, etc. proliferate with no restrictions, no enforcement. In Ohio, you can buy pretty much any weapon you want in any amount available. Same with ammo. Any laws on the books are ignored by state government, sadly.

The bad guys can get sell and stockpile whatever they want in Ohio. They're free to carry them anywhere they want. Unless they're black or brown skinned, few LE will object or question them.

https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/gun...borhoods-says-weapons-are-for-self-protection

“When a criminal sees someone walking around with a gun, they’re less likely to do something,” said Kovacevic, sitting inside Kangaroo Kutz barbershop, the scene of an explosive encounter the day before.

The owner of the East Exchange barbershop — Deone Slater, who is black — confronted Kovacevic on the sidewalk outside his shop Thursday, fearing the gun-carrying man might open fire on campus or at a nearby elementary school.

Akron police soon arrived.

But it wasn’t Slater who called them.

It was Kovacevic. He wanted police to escort him safely by the barber, who refused to let him pass.

“I didn’t know if this guy was ISIS or what,” Slater said.

Slater said the officers told him to go back inside his shop because Kovacevic had broken no law.

 

[Betty P]

It was in one of the news articles. RSD1200 do you remember which one?

I've never heard or seen it. Not to say I didn't miss it. Was it in a video clip in the news media online?

ETA: WRT speculation that some of the Rhoden family were involved in dealing hard drugs, I think we would have heard about that. LE was not hesitant to tell the news media about the MJ grow ops, raising cockfighting birds, etc. Based on that, it seems unlikely they would hold back on telling the public about any involvement in harder drugs like opiates, heroin, etc. It would have taken a lot of pressure off them to solve the case.

Let's be honest, LE didn't exactly behave kindly or respectfully towards the victims of the massacre. They made no bones about refusing to allocate state victim crime funds to the burial expenses of some and were very vocal in their objections to paying for CR1 and KR's funerals from those taxpayer funds. They went out of their way to discourage people from donating to a reward fund for more information about the murderers. If they had evidence CR1, GR or KR were involved in hard drugs, they would have willingly shared that information with the public.

:moo:

 

[MizStery]

Do you guys have a link to anything confirming that someone said this about the Rhodens? Sorry, but you'll need to provide some proof. If you're stating something as fact, you need to provide a link. TIA.

It was in one of the news articles. RSD1200 do you remember which one?

Here you go:
It also has one of the largest Appalachian communities in the country. The massacre has shined an unwelcome light on the poverty and social problems of the area, with out-of-state-reporters writing breathlessly of hillbillies, rednecks and moonshiners, of confederate flags and tin roofs, of trashy locals willing to spill the beans about the Rhodens in exchange for a pack of cigarettes.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

On the the subject of the Rhoden's.

My Mom and Dad were the 1st generation to leave Mississippi.I believe ancestry has on my paternal side a relative moving from Virginia to Missippi in the 1700's. That would be the most recent. Generations never left the NE corner of Mississippi.

The reason I am boring you with this is I feel like I know the Rhoden family. I was 6 months old when my dad got a football scholarship to Northwestern University. From Chicago we would drive down home a few times a month but we never moved back.

My family worked hard on the farm and they ate poor people's food. The Rhoden family were working hard to make ends meet. At jobs that didn't even pay a living wage.

The 'beast of prey' who orchestrated the genicide of CRsr family is a predictor he engaged them enough to hook then reel them in.

The Rhoden family endured desperation,proverty,hopelessness,terrible fear of losing what little they had trying to make ends meet on & on.

My biggest fear is the case has gone cold.
:cow: