OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32

[rsd1200]

Is it possible he had AD&D through his employer? He had a decent job with (probably) decent benefits.

My job offers accident insurance, similar to AFLAC. I don’t remember the payouts but any type of death offers the highest payment.

If insured, the insurance company may be waiting, to pay out, for either the case to be closed, or for LE to say, unequivocally, that the beneficiary(ies), are not suspects.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Your first question is a general insurance question and I can answer that. The named beneficiary is "absolute" on a life insurance policy. The person you name as beneficiary receives the proceeds, if they are alive, and if not, then it goes to the contingent beneficiary. If both the named beneficiary and the contingent beneficiary are deceased, the proceeds from the life insurance policy will likely end up in probate court and the probate court decides who gets the proceeds.

Your other questions about whether you can purchase coverage on someone else's life, and beneficiary designations are questions you would need to ask a licensed insurance agent in your area. Insurance is regulated by each state, and the agent must be licensed in the state in order to give insurance advice and to sell insurance. In addition, each insurance company has their own specific set of underwriting rules. I'm sorry, but I just can't answer these types of questions!

Thank you molly for what you were able to answer. I really appreciate your help. I guess I should call the agency that has our other policies but we were never offered AD&D through them. Just whole life.

Thank you though for taking time to answer me.

 

[molly1255]

Thank you molly for what you were able to answer. I really appreciate your help. I guess I should call the agency that has our other policies but we were never offered AD&D through them. Just whole life.

Thank you though for taking time to answer me.

You're more than welcome, Raisinisback. Good luck!

 

[Betty P]

Can someone please clarify how we ended up in this in depth discussion about different types of various forms of insurance? Was there some recent news or information revealed to indicate the Rhoden family, though low income, had purchased large insurance policies on themselves and each other. These were people who had little income or assets. They could barely afford cars and modest trailers to live in. They supplemented their incomes by working extra shifts, commuted long distances for jobs raised and sold some MJ and fixed up salvage cars to earn extra money. How would they afford big life and disability insurance policies for everyone in the family.

For those following the theory of killing 8 people for insurance money, can you offer a summary of which victims had policies that will now be cashed in by the alleged killers? TIA.

 

[molly1255]

Can someone please clarify how we ended up in this in depth discussion about different types of various forms of insurance? Was there some recent news or information revealed to indicate the Rhoden family, though low income, had purchased large insurance policies on themselves and each other. These were people who had little income or assets. They could barely afford cars and modest trailers to live in. They supplemented their incomes by working extra shifts, commuted long distances for jobs raised and sold some MJ and fixed up salvage cars to earn extra money. How would they afford big life and disability insurance policies for everyone in the family.

For those following the theory of killing 8 people for insurance money, can you offer a summary of which victims had policies that will now be cashed in by the alleged killers? TIA.

As with everything else in this case, the discussion of possible insurance benefits began with speculation. It also appears the children of DR and CR Sr. had $25,000 each in life insurance benefits.

 

[amauet1]

Amauet could you be a dear and post how to get into that probate again. I treid but could get into it to see who is involved,

Thank you

Why of course my darling! :loveyou: LOL! it's https://www.pikecountypjcourt.com

 

[amauet1]

I ran another search and see where she is shown there on this one. I don't know why I hadn't seen that before. :facepalm: According to the data that I could view before the pva map changes, this year, it was purchased in 2008, but, a trailer was not placed on it, until sometime in 2014.

I think read somewhere, that she bought the trailer after getting her "disability" from social security?

 

[Betty P]

Do you have a link? TIA.

Familial mass murder over $25,000 life insurance policies don't happen where I live. Are they common in rural southern Ohio and Appalachia? Seems like a really big risk to hire some pro killers for a couple of those policies, especially if the guilty parties weren't the beneficiaries.

 

[Betty P]

I think read somewhere, that she bought the trailer after getting her "disability" from social security?

Is the theory that a distant relative living on disability killed KR in hopes they could inherit a fractional share of Rhoden family land and a share of the approximately $700 he had in the bank?

 

[molly1255]

Do you have a link? TIA.

Familial mass murder over $25,000 life insurance policies don't happen where I live. Are they common in rural southern Ohio and Appalachia? Seems like a really big risk to hire some pro killers for a couple of those policies, especially if the guilty parties weren't the beneficiaries.

I wasn't the one who found the $25,000 life insurance policies, so I don't have a link. The starting discussion on this goes back a few pages in this thread.

Has it been confirmed that professionals were hired to kill the R's?

 

[amauet1]

I am almost positive that she is GR's first cousin. GR's father, KR from Greenup, and her father, also from Greenup, but who passed in March of 2017, in Piketon at a nursing home, are brothers. There's one more living brother, JR, at least, last I think he's still living. I think the latter, JR, is the one who helped CRsr move the land around.

ETA: WRDR is her father.

Dennell Rhoden is the daughter of William "Denny" Rhoden.who died at Piketon Nursing Home. He was 66 years old. Denny is survived by his son Josh Rhoden of Peebles. 2 daughter's, Dennell is one of them. He had 2 brothers, John Rhoden and Kenneth Rhoden (GR's dad). Dennell is listed as one of KR's benificiary's . Why? When you pull up his estate she and others are listed. My question is why is a cousin eligiable for KR's estate. There are 2 pages by each person's name. One is the page that explains the filing of the claim the other is the Docket which lists all documents needed for your claim. Sense she was a minor when her guardian filed the claim, you cannot get to her info.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Can someone please clarify how we ended up in this in depth discussion about different types of various forms of insurance? Was there some recent news or information revealed to indicate the Rhoden family, though low income, had purchased large insurance policies on themselves and each other. These were people who had little income or assets. They could barely afford cars and modest trailers to live in. They supplemented their incomes by working extra shifts, commuted long distances for jobs raised and sold some MJ and fixed up salvage cars to earn extra money. How would they afford big life and disability insurance policies for everyone in the family.

For those following the theory of killing 8 people for insurance money, can you offer a summary of which victims had policies that will now be cashed in by the alleged killers? TIA.

I don’t believe anyone stated life insurance was a theory. A question was asked about estates and life insurance was brought up.

No one said life insurance policies will now be be cashed in by the alleged killer.

I did ask if the W’s had sought anything for S In probate on behalf of HMR. And when I asked that, I wasn’t aware you could even view probate online in Pike county because where I’m at, those records aren’t public online.

We are all allowed to have our own thoughts and input and respect each other for such.

If I have a question, I ask. I’ve retained a lot of information on this case but at the same time, it’s also a lot to remember considering there’s 8 victims and an uncountable number of extended family members surrounding this case.

As far as I knew, no motive has ever been released. The initial suspected motive(s) were then recanted by investigators. But we still respectfully discuss that all the time.

If we knew the motive, the case would be solved w/the guilty parties behind bars.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Do you have a link? TIA.

Familial mass murder over $25,000 life insurance policies don't happen where I live. Are they common in rural southern Ohio and Appalachia? Seems like a really big risk to hire some pro killers for a couple of those policies, especially if the guilty parties weren't the beneficiaries.

$25,000 x 3.

$75,000

 

[amauet1]

Maybe he had a huge amount of that AD&D on him? Or other life insurance?

You know I just had a thought. Anna Nicole Smith. She had a huge lawsuit against her former stepchildren for a piece of her husbands estate.

Could KR have had such a lawsuit for an injury?

I don't know, but it is curious that so many are claiming against his estate. In all the other estate's there's a death certificate listed. Now you can't get to some and if you do, no new info on them. But I noticed that KR's doesn't have one even listed. ?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Dennell Rhoden is the daughter of William "Denny" Rhoden.who died at Piketon Nursing Home. He was 66 years old. Denny is survived by his son Josh Rhoden of Peebles. 2 daughter's, Dennell is one of them. He had 2 brothers, John Rhoden and Kenneth Rhoden (GR's dad). Dennell is listed as one of KR's benificiary's . Why? When you pull up his estate she and others are listed. My question is why is a cousin eligiable for KR's estate. There are 2 pages by each person's name. One is the page that explains the filing of the claim the other is the Docket which lists all documents needed for your claim. Sense she was a minor when her guardian filed the claim, you cannot get to her info.

Clarence was his brother as well, per Clarence’s obituary. Clarence was survived by 3 brothers-John, Kenny, & Denny.

 

[Betty P]

$25,000 x 3.

$75,000

That still seems like a small amount to motivate someone to participate in killing 8 people, especially if the killers are not the beneficiaries. If those policies actually exist, why bother? Why risk the death penalty for a relatively small sum of money that you have little chance of ever collecting?

 

[amauet1]

Clarence was his brother as well, per Clarence’s obituary. Clarence was survived by 3 brothers-John, Kenny, & Denny.

Thank's Mitten, I forgot to include him. And you go girl/boy/person! If you know what I mean.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

That still seems like a small amount to motivate someone to participate in killing 8 people, especially if the killers are not the beneficiaries. If those policies actually exist, why bother? Why risk the death penalty for a relatively small sum of money that you have little chance of ever collecting?

I agree.

But why would anyone murder 8 people at 4 locations for any reason?

Whoever did it, had a reason in their own mind.

None of it has ever made sense to any of us because we don’t think like murderers.

Every case I have ever researched regarding mass familial homicide, that wasn’t a murder suicide, the murderer was a close family member, friend, or business associate.

The McStay family was originally thought to have been murdered by cartels at the border. It took investigators a year to figure out it was the business partner who did it.

Recently, I shared an article about another familial homicide where one member miraculously survived. That murderer was the neighbor who was mad about the family purchasing land next to him. He was caught because someone lived to tell.

At the end of the day, could someone have killed this family over inheritance, land, and life insurance? Sure.

Add up the land, with the life insurance and all the personal property. It’s not a small chunk of change when it’s all combined.

I don’t think that’s what happened. But anything’s possible IMO.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Thank's Mitten, I forgot to include him. And you go girl/boy/person! If you know what I mean.

Hahaha. Girl

 

[amauet1]

I love to collect all the info we can, since there's nothing coming from LE/BCI/AG. If I find something curious or just not right about things, my natural conclusion is to gather as much information I can get my hands on and deduct my own theories on this. While discussing things with fellow poster's, sometimes we stumble on new info. I love everyone's opinions that are contributing to this forum. Fresh idea's bring a different persecptive to my old one's, thus opening my mind up to a new way to view things. Tnanx guys!