BBM
I think the W's were in it up to their necks.
AW said that BW and CR1 were best friends. Since the W's lawyer said that the W's had provided information about CR1s business associates, then we can also safely assume that BW and CR1 were also in some sort of business together. Since we know CR1 and KR sold some MJ then I think we can assume at least some of that business may have been drugs.
Break ups between best friends can sometimes be as nasty and bitter as a divorce. Indeed a best friend can know you better than a spouse does since you are more apt to tell your best friend secrets you wouldn't tell your spouse, especially if you were in the business of selling drugs.
Given that fact I think that BW knew more about what CR1 was into than DR did. And when the breakup came love quickly turned into hatred.
Then you have little SW. I think the falling out between BW and CR1 was in part caused by the split between HR and JW. Parents invariably side with their kids in any dispute. In the case of AW, I think she wanted that little girl and was certainly unwilling to move to AK without her. She may have even reasoned that she was doing HR a favor to have her sign away her parental rights to JW. After all HR was very young, unmarried and with another little girl on the way, so by AW's reasoning she and JW was lightening HR's load by taking SW.
But then the blow up came when the R's dug in their heels and refused to give up SW. Tempers flared and old resentments came to the surface. There may even have been cracks in the friendship before then if the rumors of JW being abusive are true. Given the personalities and characteristics of both men ( we know that CR was a fighter and we can only assume that BW is also since birds of a feather flock together) the blow up was particularly nasty and fast moving.
Yes I think the murders were planned, but I think the planning was short, maybe over the course of a week or so. I think the element of love and closeness turning to sudden overwhelming hate and rage was also present. The W's became enraged over SW and sat down and planned this.
The W's are hunters. You only have to look at the pictures of their living room to know they have hunted extensively for a good long time.
They also knew the homes inside out, by virtue of BW being CR's best friend and HR and JW's long term relationship. The dogs knew the W's. BW or JW might even have helped CR and KR install their security cameras. If BW was in business with CR as we have proof of from the lawyers statement, then more than likely BW was the one who helped him install them, or most certainly knew where they were. JW most likely knew where any spare keys were kept or who had them (I think KR did and that is why he was killed). They knew the habits of all the family due to their long term association with them, (the only variable was DR working a double shift and JW took care of that by contacting JM.)
So we have to ask, who knew these people well enough to sneak into their homes while they were asleep, without alerting the dogs, without leaving enough evidence to get arrested and take with them security cameras that were concealed.
The cartel could not have did it, neither could a professional hitman, indeed no stranger could have. That leaves only close family and close friends. I do not believe it was the other R's or the M's or the G's.
My conclusion is, by weeding out the other possible suspects, is that the W's were the only ones with enough inside knowledge and enough anger to have murdered an entire family.
JMO
Thank you! I just want to add the only reason I find LM’s statements contradictory and confusing is because I believe he knows or has high suspicion that the W’s are involved. He tries to express that in his interviews but it becomes confusing. The confusion I’ve taken away from LM has never lead me to suspect him. It’s just left me confused and I believe he never actually calls the W’s out because LE told him not to. And then they told him to stop speaking to the media.
LM told us from the beginning there was an issue with custody. I think LE didn’t believe that was what caused this until they were deep into their investigation and the things they thought to be motive in the beginning were proven otherwise.
I think people struggle with custody being the issue with this case because there’s so many victims and so many crime scenes. BUT every one of the people murdered could have stated HMR’s side of the custody story. And Raisin, the only thing I’m not on board with is in regards to KR and him being killed for keys to the property. It’s possible yes, I haven’t ruled it out. I just truly believe KR was killed because he was known to go to Chris’ house before work to shower because KR didn’t have running water on his property. I think he was the one person who was truly “in the way” and the killer(s) didn’t want to risk KR interrupting the murders on UHR. He may have had keys to the UHR properties, I just lean more towards Chris Sr. Would’ve been the one that had a key to all the UHR homes.
Speaking of people killing for custody, I watched a Dateline this weekend called House on Pitch Pine Crescent. 3 family members were found dead in this house, separately, within the span of 3 years or so. The adult son had gotten a divorce and moved back home with his parents. First, his dad was found dead. A year later his mom, and finally he was found dead. After he was found, his ex wife packed the kids up with her new husband and moved to Nova Scotia. LE had DNA of the ex wife’s new husband under the fingernails of one victim, but they wanted to link the ex wife to the murders as well. It took them years, but it was finally solved, complete with a house wire tapped in Nova Scotia.
Yes, but, KR was a great uncle to S. That would be like my child's ex deciding they want full custody of the child between them, and killing my spouse and me, one of my brothers living 10 miles away, in another county, (but not the rest of my siblings), murdering their ex , ( our child), who lives with us, my child's sibling, who lives with us, then going down the road, and killing my other child and their s/o, but, leaving alive the very person who knew the most about us, the special family friend who took care of the property, and animals, and was in our homes regularly, privy to conversations, and was a sister, to me, the now deceased. Not to mention, leaving alive, my very talkative father. I have a hard time wrapping my head around that, and it being only about custody.
Fwiw, LM did mention custody, but early on, he was also very adamant that the lady who slapped CR2, so hard that it left him bruised, be looked at, and was upset because he felt LE didn't seem to view it as he did. He said threatening messages were left on DR's phone, about the incident, and the messages would be given to LE.
He also makes this odd comment;
Asked what would be his message to the killers, he said: 'If they can live with it, I can too. But it's going to be on their conscience for the rest of their lives... It's going to be on my conscience for the rest of my life.'
Later in the article, LM said;
he knew nothing about the dope installations uncovered at the homes, but said his family had been riven by tensions and recriminations since the beginning of the year.
That's always made me wonder, what kind of recriminations, over the course of those last four months?
In the same article:
Detectives are following several lines of inquiry including claims that bitterness against one of the victims involving a $3,000 demolition derby car may have fueled tensions.
Finally, there was this;
'Every piece of information is valuable and our investigators are certainly taking that into consideration.' On Sunday it was revealed the R family were involved in drugs and were growing marijuana.
There's just too many things that have come out for me to nail it down. I have a hard time believing someone would kill over a derby car, but, what could have led up to it? All those killed had more than S. in common. Weed, derby, BBL, and vehicle buying, repairing, and selling.
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