UNSOLVED Oh - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #33

[rsd1200]

I’d just approach it in a hypothetical sense. I don’t think it will be looked at as weird. I know I won’t view it as weird. Heck, I likened gunshots to the eye to The Walking Dead earlier. I was embarrassed to even say that one, but also found it interesting.

I miss my little LOL emoji... That was a pretty good one though! Let me think it out a bit, how to approach it, but it has to do with lots of emotions at play, jealousy being a big one. Jealousy is a powerful emotion.

 

[Betty P]

I'm not getting much of a "religious" overtone to any of this, but that's just me. Do folks who go to church, break the law and do bad things? Yup. However, that applies across the board, to Christians, Buddhists, Satanists, Mormons, Wiccans, you name one, there's one sitting in jail for something.

A pastor, in a case here, killed his friends, while their child hid in the bathroom (thank Heaven), then, preached their funeral, mixed with the family, and gave condolences at the visitations, and funeral, after what he did. All over greed. If he gets forgiven and gets in? I'm definitely getting in.

However, I just don't see the connection to some radical religious group, here. I see drugs and/or greed and jealousy.

Normally, I wouldn't see that connection either, but there are some strange coincidences here related to these churches. The one located on the elder W's property just seems so odd. It's kind of off the map, no visibility on the web or any other listing. No sign on the church building identifying it.

Ever take a look at some of the people who live off Loy's Run Rd, the road that runs behind the elder W's property, near the church & nursing home?

Who Lives On Loys Run Rd, Piketon, OH 45661 | Spokeo

 

[rsd1200]

Normally, I wouldn't see that connection either, but there are some strange coincidences here related to these churches. The one located on the elder W's property just seems so odd. It's kind of off the map, no visibility on the web or any other listing. No sign on the church building identifying it.

Ever take a look at some of the people who live off Loy's Run Rd, the road that runs behind the elder W's property, near the church & nursing home?

Who Lives On Loys Run Rd, Piketon, OH 45661 | Spokeo

I think that the church may have been there, when they bought the property, and the parsonage, is what they turned into the sort of nursing home thing. I don't think it is a functioning church. In other words, they use it for activities, and dinners, and, yes, like my fil's nursing home, which has an actual chapel in it, probably as a church, on Sunday for the residents and anyone else who'd like to attend.

I'm not sure what your meaning about the folks on Loy's Run.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I think that the church may have been there, when they bought the property, and the parsonage, is what they turned into the sort of nursing home thing. I don't think it is a functioning church. In other words, they use it for activities, and dinners, and, yes, like my fil's nursing home, which has an actual chapel in it, probably as a church, on Sunday for the residents and anyone else who'd like to attend.

I'm not sure what your meaning about the folks on Loy's Run.

Tiff23fr’s post in thread 32 OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32.

This link below is in that post shared by the member here.

WUKV 88.3 FM Radio Station Information - Radio Lineup

SS of the radionlineup post attached.

That church was a functioning church as of June 23,2016, from what I can tell.

 

[rsd1200]

Tiff23fr’s post in thread 32 OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32.

This link below is in that post shared by the member here.

WUKV 88.3 FM Radio Station Information - Radio Lineup

SS of the radionlineup post attached.

That church was a functioning church as of June 23,2016, from what I can tell.

They give the Crystal Springs home as an alternate GPS. Yes, it's some sort of a church, but I also think it is used, by Crystal Springs residents. Then again, maybe it's just me, and my upbringing in a Bible Belt area, but I just don't see anything weird about it at all. Heck, folks handle venomous snakes in church, in parts of this region, as part of their belief system. I just don't see too much odd about that little church. Edit: If I bought property, and it had a church on it, I'd likely let someone use it too, just to keep it up and looking nice.

 

[Betty P]

Weed is cheap. Even great weed is cheap. Not as much money in it these days.



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Yes, it's cheap and plenty of it is being sold. Who is selling it? If domestic, who is laundering the money in this area? Must be generating a lot of cash, as it always has.

 

[Betty P]

Tiff23fr’s post in thread 32 OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32.

This link below is in that post shared by the member here.

WUKV 88.3 FM Radio Station Information - Radio Lineup

SS of the radionlineup post attached.

That church was a functioning church as of June 23,2016, from what I can tell.

I wonder if it's linked to the Lucasville Mission, which has a PO Box in Piketon

http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/OH/Lucasville-Mission-Inc.html

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I wonder if it's linked to the Lucasville Mission, which has a PO Box in Piketon

http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/OH/Lucasville-Mission-Inc.html

I believe so. The PO BOX is the same one I shared in the last thread that’s linked to the nursing home. The physical address of the church moved in 2006 to Mt Etna Rd, which is the church by the “nursing home” also owned by the W’s.

 

[Betty P]

They give the Crystal Springs home as an alternate GPS. Yes, it's some sort of a church, but I also think it is used, by Crystal Springs residents. Then again, maybe it's just me, and my upbringing in a Bible Belt area, but I just don't see anything weird about it at all. Heck, folks handle venomous snakes in church, in parts of this region, as part of their belief system. I just don't see too much odd about that little church. Edit: If I bought property, and it had a church on it, I'd likely let someone use it too, just to keep it up and looking nice.

The suspicious part is that it was built by and located on the property of a family that's suspected in the murder of 8 members of the same family, just several miles down the road. Members of that family, LE has hinted, have been involved in drug or MJ trafficking. The family has extensive real estate holdings in the area, some near this church, where LE has busted people for dealing drugs, running meth labs, etc. Some of these are or have been past tenants of the people who built the church and own the land.

And, yeah, the local police refuse to talk about the case publicly, almost never mention the reward and have no suspects or arrests in over 2 years. They also preside over a county where most of the drug related murders in the last several years have gone cold.

Just as important as figuring out which people might have committed these murders is to understand why LE hasn't been able to arrest them and has stonewalled anyone seeking to help with the case for 2 years.

IOW, the problem isn't just with the killers. If LE doesn't stop them, how much longer before they kill again?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

They give the Crystal Springs home as an alternate GPS. Yes, it's some sort of a church, but I also think it is used, by Crystal Springs residents. Then again, maybe it's just me, and my upbringing in a Bible Belt area, but I just don't see anything weird about it at all. Heck, folks handle venomous snakes in church, in parts of this region, as part of their belief system. I just don't see too much odd about that little church. Edit: If I bought property, and it had a church on it, I'd likely let someone use it too, just to keep it up and looking nice.

My great grandfather died preaching at the pulpit. Both side of my family have strong Bible Belt Southern Baptist upbringings but IMO what the W’s follow goes beyond those practices. I could be wrong though. It’s just the “feel” I get from the very small, isolated AK church and some posters’ comments on here regarding that church.

 

[rsd1200]

Yes, it's cheap and plenty of it is being sold. Who is selling it? If domestic, who is laundering the money in this area? Must be generating a lot of cash, as it always has.

It's laundered the usual ways, according to how high you are on the ladder, and how much you're making, shell companies, used vehicle sales, gambling but it's no different to launder it if you are a weed dealer or a meth dealer, it is still dirty money that has to be washed.

Most dealers who deal in weed, most, not all, will deal in other product. With the money that's to be made in Meth and Heroin, it's hard to pass up for folks, who are in that lifestyle. Meth is pretty thick in my area but, I think that Heroin was the big deal in Pike, and around that area, in 2016. It was Heroin, here, in 2016, but Meth seems to be taking the front seat lately.

 

[rsd1200]

The suspicious part is that it was built by and located on the property of a family that's suspected in the murder of 8 members of the same family, just several miles down the road. Members of that family, LE has hinted, have been involved in drug or MJ trafficking. The family has extensive real estate holdings in the area, some near this church, where LE has busted people for dealing drugs, running meth labs, etc. Some of these are or have been past tenants of the people who built the church and own the land.

And, yeah, the local police refuse to talk about the case publicly, almost never mention the reward and have no suspects or arrests in over 2 years. They also preside over a county where most of the drug related murders in the last several years have gone cold.

Just as important as figuring out which people might have committed these murders is to understand why LE hasn't been able to arrest them and has stonewalled anyone seeking to help with the case for 2 years.

IOW, the problem isn't just with the killers. If LE doesn't stop them, how much longer before they kill again?

I still do not see where the church comes in. Is there a member there who is under suspicion?

Why would LE mention the reward constantly? There is bill board on Hwy 23, or there was. It was partially paid for with funds that the Sheriff pulled money from and the billboard was donated. I think the people in Pike know there is a reward.

I refuse to demonize a church and its' members because of its location.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Betty,

See our discussion here OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32. There’s a screenshot there that shows the Group Home having the same PO box as the Mission.

 

[rsd1200]

My great grandfather died preaching at the pulpit. Both side of my family have strong Bible Belt Southern Baptist upbringings but IMO what the W’s follow goes beyond those practices. I could be wrong though. It’s just the “feel” I get from the very small, isolated AK church and some posters’ comments on here regarding that church.

The church in AK was a church that was created through mission work, many years ago. The son, who is from Ohio, took over, at some point, when his father, who was also from Ohio, and pastored another church in Ohio, passed away. It may not be my style of church, Idk, I've never been there, but I don't think that they are murders.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

I wonder if it's linked to the Lucasville Mission, which has a PO Box in Piketon

http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/OH/Lucasville-Mission-Inc.html

 

[Betty P]

I still do not see where the church comes in. Is there a member there who is under suspicion?

Why would LE mention the reward constantly? There is bill board on Hwy 23, or there was. It was partially paid for with funds that the Sheriff pulled money from and the billboard was donated. I think the people in Pike know there is a reward.

I refuse to demonize a church and its' members because of its location.

The founder of the church at this location, same person who built the church and owns the property had their nearby farm searched by LE last summer as part of the Rhoden murder investigation.

People don't seem to mind discussing the possible involvement of the victims' family members (who have submitted to poly exams, DNA testing, etc.), I'm not sure why a church is any different.

 

[rsd1200]

The founder of the church at this location, same person who built the church and owns the property had their nearby farm searched by LE last summer as part of the Rhoden murder investigation.

People don't seem to mind discussing the possible involvement of the victims' family members (who have submitted to poly exams, DNA testing, etc.), I'm not sure why a church is any different.

Was the church searched? Has its owners been named as suspects? I don't think so. Tossing the elder Ws and a church, and its' members, around as suspects, will get our thread shut down.

BBM
Who are these people? Where?? Do we have to keep going back to this???

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I still do not see where the church comes in. Is there a member there who is under suspicion?

Why would LE mention the reward constantly? There is bill board on Hwy 23, or there was. It was partially paid for with funds that the Sheriff pulled money from and the billboard was donated. I think the people in Pike know there is a reward.

I refuse to demonize a church and its' members because of its location.

IMO, there is a person who shared google photos of inside that church that is also present in photos on the W’s social media. The google photos depict the church as being this persons private sanctuary. That link was shared on the last thread, IIRC. I believe it’s the Defiance farms page that has the group photo of said the same person in the private sanctuary in a separate photo with JW, GW4, and one other unknown gentleman. . I apologize for not remembering where the exact post is, but we discussed this last thread. It tied into the experienced hunting aspect of the W’s and associates. I’m not trying to demonize the church in any way shape or form. The church itself is a building. However since it is owned by the elders, I do wonder if that location was searched when all the searches were carried out on The W’s & the elders farms. It would be interesting to know if all major property owned by the elders was searched and perhaps we didn’t catch wind of that in the media because the media focused on the big locations. IMO, the W’s not only had access to that church but their buddy did too. It probably means nothing, like most things. But I think the focus isn’t really on the church per se but more on a few people who had and have access to it. Not the congregation.

ETA-I’m only speaking on why it peaks my interest. I haven’t researched how much land that church sits on but it could potentially harbor hiding spots on the land for evidence, if the land is large enough.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I think we should just take another peak into the Greenup to Detroit pipeline and GR because I have questions (imagine that right ha)

Is it safe to assume IF that pipeline was the cause of that, that whoever killed this family was also very familiar with the day to day activities of the R’s? IOW, would these people have known where DR and KR Lived? I don’t doubt it’s a possibility that particular drug angle is a cause for the murders. But I’m curious how and why they would’ve known how to get to DR’s & KR’s? Is it possible that connection is something the W’s were in business with CR1 with and GR was essentially the middle man between CR1 & the W’s and Greenup?

 

[rsd1200]

IMO, there is a person who shared google photos of inside that church that is also present in photos on the W’s social media. The google photos depict the church as being this persons private sanctuary. That link was shared on the last thread, IIRC. I believe it’s the Defiance farms page that has the group photo of said person in the private sanctuary with JW, GW4, and one other unknown gentleman. . I apologize for not remembering where the exact post is, but we discussed this last thread. It tied into the experienced hunting aspect of the W’s and associates. I’m not trying to demonize the church in any way shape or form. The church itself is a building. However since it is owned by the elders, I do wonder if that location was searched when all the searches were carried out on The W’s & the elders farms. It would be interesting to know if all major property owned by the elders was searched and perhaps we didn’t catch wind of that in the media because the media focused on the big locations. IMO, the W’s not only had access to that church but their buddy did too. It probably means nothing, like most things. But I think the focus isn’t really on the church per se but more on a few people who had and have access to it. Not the congregation.

I know which fella you speak of, and I remember the discussion, but, again, you wouldn't believe the church posts I go through on my FB. Insides of their church, outsides of their church, their pastor preaching, a special singer. I've had to just start un-following one or two. It's probably some type of church like I've attended at some point in my life, and when I say "the church", I'm speaking of it as a collective. I'm a very open minded person, but I was brought up in the church and my mother was the adult class teacher for decades. I'm not gonna slam no churches unless there is evidence or suspects named. I'm probably hanging on by a thread already, I'm not blaspheming a church... Proof? That's another story.

I too would love to know if the church, and CS was searched.