OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #34 *Arrests*

[rsd1200]

Maybe the confrontation they had that time on UHR when they ran people off caused a retaliation that got them all killed...

I'd read that the folks in the vehicle, who had a run in that day, were cleared, but, that doesn't mean that there weren't others who had run-ins and it wasn't known. Out in daylight, patrolling the road... doesn't sound like things were happy go lucky on UHR.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Lots of connections to Greenup there. Greenup, and Hwy 23 has connections to Detroit. GR's mom and stepdad, same step who GR had previously been arrested with, for shooting up in a local Greenup store's parking lot, is listed below w/charges. DL, GR's mom, is not listed til the indictments are handed down. According to KOOL, DL was paroled on 9/16/2014, and JL was paroled 11/2014. She should be served out on parole next Sept. She got ten years, the hubby, on same charges, got five. DL spoke to the press after GR's death, they did not reveal her name,for fear she, or other family there, may be targeted. She said she spoke to GR a couple days before the murders, told GR she loved him, and was surprised about the weed discovery. GR had some sketchy friends on his FB list that had Detroit ties, iirc, but, his friend list is no longer able to be viewed by the public.

UPDATE: Detroit to Kentucky Drug Trafficking Operation Busted; 4 Arrests

5 indicted in alleged drug pipeline

Piketon homes where family died had pot-growing operations, officials say

These arrests were around the last of September of 2013, as the article is dated 9-29-2013. Two and a half years later JL and DL's son is killed in a mass murder spree along with the entire family he was living with i.e. the R's. What are the chances that GR was involved along with his mom and step dad, but wasn't present in the home the day they served the search warrant and as a result was not arrested? Drug trafficking is one of the major theories I have had since the HWY 23 drug pipeline task force was present during the searches of the W properties.

It is very plausible that the R's and W's were involved in drug trafficking with GR as the go between.

JMO

 

[Sojourn]

Motive , means , and opportunity.
Whoever did this was close to this family . To the point of knowing everything about them .
I dont believe there is a endless supply of these people to choose from .
Their is seemingly a endless supply of motives thou .

We as a group of individuals with limited information and facts can not possibly know for sure anything .

Logically we can eliminate a lot thou .

I think its obvious - by My thinking and writing The Who, why, and how .

We were asked to focus our attention in a certain place for a reason .
Could they be wrong ? Of coarse they can . But being they ( the people who have all the info and facts ) are focused in a particular place , tells me they have more specific info . But not the smoking gun .

Their was a time I believed le was shady and hiding things . I dont believe that anymore . I truly believe they got this right , out of a lot of hard work and determination .

I believe The people who did this are now living a isolated life over there actions , and will most likely countinue for the rest of there lives , or until someone cracks ........think about how that must feel . I wouldn’t want to be in there shoes , having people believe you slaughtered a entire family can’t be easy .
Moving deeper into the woods is not going to help ....eventually things will get very ugly ...
My concern is for the young ones . The rest can rot in hell .

All jmo.

 

[rsd1200]

These arrests were around the last of September of 2013, as the article is dated 9-29-2013. Two and a half years later JL and DL's son is killed in a mass murder spree along with the entire family he was living with i.e. the R's. What are the chances that GR was involved along with his mom and step dad, but wasn't present in the home the day they served the search warrant and as a result was not arrested? Drug trafficking is one of the major theories I have had since the HWY 23 drug pipeline task force was present during the searches of the W properties.

It is very plausible that the R's and W's were involved in drug trafficking with GR as the go between.

JMO

That's in my top three. All of the family that died in Piketon, had connections to Greenup, through their kin there. Kin who we know had connections to dealings in harder drugs.

 

[Betty P]

These arrests were around the last of September of 2013, as the article is dated 9-29-2013. Two and a half years later JL and DL's son is killed in a mass murder spree along with the entire family he was living with i.e. the R's. What are the chances that GR was involved along with his mom and step dad, but wasn't present in the home the day they served the search warrant and as a result was not arrested? Drug trafficking is one of the major theories I have had since the HWY 23 drug pipeline task force was present during the searches of the W properties.

It is very plausible that the R's and W's were involved in drug trafficking with GR as the go between.

JMO

Yes and the various hubs in that network also click. Detroit seems to stand out for various reasons.

• It's part of the Hwy 23 pipeline
• CR1 used to travel there for used auto auctions
  
• Previous involvement with GR's family and Kentucky drug trafficking in general
• In Joe Berlinger's docu "Gone: Forgotten Women of Ohio", one of the missing young women addicts in the Chilli area who was recruited to be an informant told her mother how one of the local women police officers treated her and another young woman to a "shopping weekend in Detroit".
  
• Detroit is also part of the pipeline that sends drugs into southwest Ohio. It's connected to California via Chicago, according to DEA reports.

Lots of connections have made Detroit relevant, along with the rest of that pipeline to Cali.

Link to 2017 DEA Threat Assessment Report

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-07/DIR-040-17_2017-NDTA.pdf

These annual reports are very helpful to understanding the big picture

 

[rsd1200]

Motive , means , and opportunity.
Whoever did this was close to this family . To the point of knowing everything about them .
I dont believe there is a endless supply of these people to choose from .
Their is seemingly a endless supply of motives thou .

We as a group of individuals with limited information and facts can not possibly know for sure anything .

Logically we can eliminate a lot thou .

I think its obvious - by My thinking and writing The Who, why, and how .

We were asked to focus our attention in a certain place for a reason .
Could they be wrong ? Of coarse they can . But being they ( the people who have all the info and facts ) are focused in a particular place , tells me they have more specific info . But not the smoking gun .

Their was a time I believed le was shady and hiding things . I dont believe that anymore . I truly believe they got this right , out of a lot of hard work and determination .

I believe The people who did this are now living a isolated life over there actions , and will most likely countinue for the rest of there lives , or until someone cracks ........think about how that must feel . I wouldn’t want to be in there shoes , having people believe you slaughtered a entire family can’t be easy .
Moving deeper into the woods is not going to help ....eventually things will get very ugly ...
My concern is for the young ones . The rest can rot in hell .

All jmo.

Neither of the infants, nor the toddler, are in custody of Rs or Ms. I don't think that's because they didn't apply. I think that's for a reason. Idk who did this, but I look at those who are deceased, and who they all had like connections to, and there's a couple connections that stand out to me. One other theory, one or more, of the Rs threatened someone that they'd turn, or did turn,(not necessarily to LE), and it was against someone with no patience for that.

“This is an old-fashioned, cold-blooded, calculated massacre of eight human beings,” - Dewine

“I do not intend to shoot down every single rumor,” he said. “Our priority is to get convictions. Not just arrests, but convictions.”- Dewine

OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #34

 

[Betty P]

Neither of the infants, nor the toddler, are in custody of Rs or Ms. I don't think that's because they didn't apply. I think that's for a reason. Idk who did this, but I look at those who are deceased, and who they all had like connections to, and there's a couple connections that stand out to me. One other theory, one or more, of the Rs threatened someone that they'd turn, or did turn,(not necessarily to LE), and it was against someone with no patience for that.





OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #34

Is custody of the surviving children really a reflection on surviving Rhoden family members? LE and the judge allowed the W family to take custody of S, then promptly made them the "laser focus" of the investigation. It doesn't sound as though the Pike Co system took into account criminal activities of the family in that case.

KR's older son logically remained in the custody of his mother. As for the surviving infants, there really weren't any close Rhoden family members left alive who were in a position to care for these children. Most were male survivors who lived alone. IIRC, the Rhoden sisters live out of state. Geneva is elderly and in poor health. KR's daughter was still too young, inexperienced and single to be considered. Custody wasn't an issue of character WRT the Rhoden family, it was a factor of the massacre and the fact there were so few eligible family members left alive.

Also, given that the local courts and LE agreed to grant custody of S to a family suspected of murdering S's entire extended family, it doesn't sound as though their standards are particularly high when it comes to awarding custody of orphaned children.

 

[rsd1200]

Is custody of the surviving children really a reflection on surviving Rhoden family members? LE and the judge allowed the W family to take custody of S, then promptly made them the "laser focus" of the investigation. It doesn't sound as though the Pike Co system took into account criminal activities of the family in that case.

KR's older son logically remained in the custody of his mother. As for the surviving infants, there really weren't any close Rhoden family members left alive who were in a position to care for these children. Most were male survivors who lived alone. IIRC, the Rhoden sisters live out of state. Geneva is elderly and in poor health. KR's daughter was still too young, inexperienced and single to be considered. Custody wasn't an issue of character WRT the Rhoden family, it was a factor of the massacre and the fact there were so few eligible family members left alive.

Also, given that the local courts and LE agreed to grant custody of S to a family suspected of murdering S's entire extended family, it doesn't sound as though their standards are particularly high when it comes to awarding custody of orphaned children.

I didn't say what the reason was, and as for KR, she was not too young to be considered. She was twenty at the time of the murders... You are naming names. Not me, but, go ahead and read into my posts anything you wish though.

 

[Betty P]

I didn't say what the reason was, and as for KR, she was not too young to be considered. She was twenty at the time of the murders... You are naming names. Not me, but, go ahead and read into my posts anything you wish though.

No offense intended, I think I understand what you mean. But considering the Pike County judge exercised poor judgment in awarding custody of S to the W family, I'm not sure we can hold in high regard his other custody decisions. He thought people suspected of playing a role in the murder of 8 family members would be good parents/guardians. JMO, it's hard to find any worse candidates for custody/guardianship than the W family. Everyone else pales by comparison. Was it some sort of flawed judgment relating to the W family's alleged religious beliefs? Some people are too easily duped by church-going folks.

 

[IceIce9]

No offense intended, I think I understand what you mean. But considering the Pike County judge exercised poor judgment in awarding custody of S to the W family, I'm not sure we can hold in high regard his other custody decisions. He thought people suspected of playing a role in the murder of 8 family members would be good parents/guardians. JMO, it's hard to find any worse candidates for custody/guardianship than the W family. Everyone else pales by comparison. Was it some sort of flawed judgment relating to the W family's alleged religious beliefs? Some people are too easily duped by church-going folks.

Since JW is the biological father I don’t think custody could have been denied him due to suspicions of possible crime.

No one knows if and to what extent the part any of the Ws might have had in the murders. Could it have been providing guns or information to the actual killers? Nothing has been proven.

Personally I believe the motive or motives involved more than just custody of a child. That could be a contributing factor but members of the R family seemed to have had disagreements with many people.

I believe the motive is bigger and deeper. I think it could be that the Rs doublecrossed the wrong people, whether it involved the big drug pipeline, some sort of car scam, money laundering, or something else.

I think the Ws might have knowledge about who might have committed the crime, maybe even assisted in some way.

 

[Betty P]

Since JW is the biological father I don’t think custody could have been denied him due to suspicions of possible crime.

No one knows if and to what extent the part any of the Ws might have had in the murders. Could it have been providing guns or information to the actual killers? Nothing has been proven.

Personally I believe the motive or motives involved more than just custody of a child. That could be a contributing factor but members of the R family seemed to have had disagreements with many people.

I believe the motive is bigger and deeper. I think it could be that the Rs doublecrossed the wrong people, whether it involved the big drug pipeline, some sort of car scam, money laundering, or something else.

I think the Ws might have knowledge about who might have committed the crime, maybe even assisted in some way.

Regardless of whether JW was the father or not, it makes no sense to grant him permanent custody when he and his family were under investigation for involvement in the murder of 8 people. Custody is denied in such cases routinely in the real world outside of Pike County. It makes even less sense when, a few months later, the Ohio AG stated he and his family were the laser focus of the Rhoden murder investigation.

Logically, realistically, there's no way to justify that judge's custody decision. It then seems a bit unfair to then bash the few surviving members of the Rhoden family because they didn't request, or were not awarded custody of the other two minor children. Considering they aren't suspects in a murder investigation, any problems they may have pale in comparison to the W family.

Yes, the motive for the murder was a major one. The killers took huge risks and went to a great deal of time and expense to carry them out, knowing their crime would draw national attention from multiple LE agencies. The motive at the top of my list (and many others) is CR1 working as an informant. He either was being pressured to be an informant (with the custody battle being used as leverage) or he was falsely accused of it by someone who was motivated by money, custody, etc.

Regardless of whom they may have had disagreements with, they had little or no record of criminal activity. They kept their noses clean and didn't interfere with others. JMO, it's impossible to blame them for their own murders.

 

[rsd1200]

No offense intended, I think I understand what you mean. But considering the Pike County judge exercised poor judgment in awarding custody of S to the W family, I'm not sure we can hold in high regard his other custody decisions. He thought people suspected of playing a role in the murder of 8 family members would be good parents/guardians. JMO, it's hard to find any worse candidates for custody/guardianship than the W family. Everyone else pales by comparison. Was it some sort of flawed judgment relating to the W family's alleged religious beliefs? Some people are too easily duped by church-going folks.

There is precedent in these types of cases. Until one is called a suspect, arrested, or more, they have to prove them unfit as a parent. This was not the case. CG didn't get custody of his child. There had to be something there that prevented that. I think that HMR stated it pretty clearly on her FB. When JW was granted custody, there had not even been the big public searches, and laser focus statement. Who else would get S other than her father, if he'd not been in any prior trouble, abusive to her, and she obviously loves him (look at the photos)? Are you saying that the Ms and Rs do not attend church? Are you privy to that information?

 

[Betty P]

There is precedent in these types of cases. Until one is called a suspect, arrested, or more, they have to prove them unfit as a parent. This was not the case. CG didn't get custody of his child. There had to be something there that prevented that. I think that HMR stated it pretty clearly on her FB. When JW was granted custody, there had not even been the big public searches, and laser focus statement. Who else would get S other than her father, if he'd not been in any prior trouble, abusive to her, and she obviously loves him (look at the photos)? Are you saying that the Ms and Rs do not attend church? Are you privy to that information?

As I mentioned before, custody in these kinds of cases is routinely denied. It doesn't require an arrest warrant to deny custody if a parent (and in this case, their family) is suspected of helping murder 8 people. Whatever made LE suspicious of the W family came from evidence obtained in the early part of the investigation, when most of the evidence was gathered. LE didn't need to go public with any evidence they had in order to deny custody.

It's no secret that the W family benefit from a reputation for being a very religious family. Whether or not they attend church (IIRC many of them do, from some media coverage), they've never been treated with equal deference. The public castigation of the R & M families, compared to the virtuous reputation the W family has enjoyed for many years is obvious from news media coverage. Would any of the Manley family members have been awarded custody of S and allowed to move over a thousand miles away? Likely not. It's a small-town double standard.

 

[IceIce9]

As I mentioned before, custody in these kinds of cases is routinely denied. It doesn't require an arrest warrant to deny custody if a parent (and in this case, their family) is suspected of helping murder 8 people. Whatever made LE suspicious of the W family came from evidence obtained in the early part of the investigation, when most of the evidence was gathered. LE didn't need to go public with any evidence they had in order to deny custody.

It's no secret that the W family benefit from a reputation for being a very religious family. Whether or not they attend church (IIRC many of them do, from some media coverage), they've never been treated with equal deference. The public castigation of the R & M families, compared to the virtuous reputation the W family has enjoyed for many years is obvious from news media coverage. Would any of the Manley family members have been awarded custody of S and allowed to move over a thousand miles away? Likely not. It's a small-town double standard.

If one of the M family members had been the biological father and not been charged with a crime then the court would have no reason to deny custody.

 

[rsd1200]

As I mentioned before, custody in these kinds of cases is routinely denied. It doesn't require an arrest warrant to deny custody if a parent (and in this case, their family) is suspected of helping murder 8 people. Whatever made LE suspicious of the W family came from evidence obtained in the early part of the investigation, when most of the evidence was gathered. LE didn't need to go public with any evidence they had in order to deny custody.

It's no secret that the W family benefit from a reputation for being a very religious family. Whether or not they attend church (IIRC many of them do, from some media coverage), they've never been treated with equal deference. The public castigation of the R & M families, compared to the virtuous reputation the W family has enjoyed for many years is obvious from news media coverage. Would any of the Manley family members have been awarded custody of S and allowed to move over a thousand miles away? Likely not. It's a small-town double standard.

BBM
I asked if you were privy to the M and R families church attendance, or lack thereof.

I've not seen the W's treated as preferential. As far as I know, I still live in America and we can't take a person's child from them if they have not been noted as a suspect, nor even been arrested for anything.

You said earlier that there were good reasons why the Ms/Rs were not awarded custody of the infants, so that's a moot point anyway... at least in your argument of preferential treatment, re; custody.

Are you privy, again, to inside information on this case? Do you know the family members, of this case, personally? If so, you should apply for the appropriate credentials so that we may venture further with questions.

4/22/2018

W fathered a daughter with HMR, one of the victims, but DeWine has not named him or three other family members — GW, his wife, A, and their other son, G — as suspects.

Pike County murders: 3 big questions, 2 years later

 

[MittenScarpetta]

BBM
I asked if you were privy to the M and R families church attendance, or lack thereof.

I've not seen the W's treated as preferential. As far as I know, I still live in America and we can't take a person's child from them if they have not been noted as a suspect, nor even been arrested for anything.

You said earlier that there were good reasons why the Ms/Rs were not awarded custody of the infants, so that's a moot point anyway... at least in your argument of preferential treatment, re; custody.

Are you privy, again, to inside information on this case? Do you know the family members, of this case, personally? If so, you should apply for the appropriate credentials so that we may venture further with questions.

4/22/2018


Pike County murders: 3 big questions, 2 years later

Just adding to this, we haven’t been privy to know who even tried to get custody of the minor children. Is there a chance that the M’s/R’s didn’t even petition for any type of custody of any of the children? Who was Reader trying to keep the youngest two from in court?

When it comes to S, despite what KR2 said about HMR’s wishes, S had an established biological father. A minor child will most times be placed with a bio parent over any other petitioner unless that parent has been deemed unfit or is in police custody. K was essentially an orphan with an “unknown” father.

In addition, it seems CRob had no issues when it came to custody of CBR. IF JW was a suspect or a “laser focus” early on, can one assume CRob would’ve been as well as she was at FR’s until 1030pm on 4/21/16? We’re talking mere hours before the murders occurred and CRob was at one of the murder scenes for an extended period of time with two of the victims. IF and only IF she was treated as a potential suspect, authorities never took B away from her.

My point is-kids are not routinely taken from the surviving parent when the other parent dies unless there is immediate cause to do so . The two children who were placed in state custody after the murders were the two who were complete orphans. Yes, K has a father but at the time she legally did not. R was an orphan as well with both of his parents deceased. S & C(B)R were not legally orphaned.

The perfect example of this is Josh Powell. Josh Powell the named person of interest in his wife’s disappearance but retained custody of his children. It wasn’t until 2 years later and unrelated charges of child pornography surrounding Powell’s father that lead to the children being taken away and even then, that was still allowed supervised visits with the minor children.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/josh-powell-loses-custody-amid-child-porn-investigation/story?id=14628030

Disappearance of Susan Powell - Wikipedia

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Regardless of whether JW was the father or not, it makes no sense to grant him permanent custody when he and his family were under investigation for involvement in the murder of 8 people. Custody is denied in such cases routinely in the real world outside of Pike County. It makes even less sense when, a few months later, the Ohio AG stated he and his family were the laser focus of the Rhoden murder investigation.

Logically, realistically, there's no way to justify that judge's custody decision. It then seems a bit unfair to then bash the few surviving members of the Rhoden family because they didn't request, or were not awarded custody of the other two minor children. Considering they aren't suspects in a murder investigation, any problems they may have pale in comparison to the W family.

Yes, the motive for the murder was a major one. The killers took huge risks and went to a great deal of time and expense to carry them out, knowing their crime would draw national attention from multiple LE agencies. The motive at the top of my list (and many others) is CR1 working as an informant. He either was being pressured to be an informant (with the custody battle being used as leverage) or he was falsely accused of it by someone who was motivated by money, custody, etc.

Regardless of whom they may have had disagreements with, they had little or no record of criminal activity. They kept their noses clean and didn't interfere with others. JMO, it's impossible to blame them for their own murders.

I don't think anyone is blaming them for their own murders. It's not like the R's asked someone to kill them. But something they were doing led to their murders so they actively participated in the events that led to their deaths. Even if the deaths were over child custody then the R's had to participate in an altercation that led to the bitterness that arose between them and JW or at least HR did. You know as close as the R's were that if HR was embroiled in a bitter custody battle the others would be also by virtue of that tight family relationship. By saying they may have been involved in drug trafficking is not blaming them for their own murders. You have to view this realistically. People sometimes make mistakes and get involved in things that are dangerous. Whole families are not killed for no reason.

As far as custody of SW goes, LM and wife are up there in age, GR is also, TR seems to be living in a campground as a single man, the sisters live out of state, we don't know much about BR but KR was a young girl trying to work and go to college besides being a second cousin to SW which would be viewed as a distant relative. We can assume JM was also suspect by the tracking device and BJM I don't think can take care of herself let alone a child as she had no definite job and KC has been rumored to have drug problems besides being involved in an earlier murder. JW is her father so he had first call on the custody issue. Because he may be suspected of having something to do with the murders won't hold up in court. In this country the court views you as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That's why the court gave him custody IMO.

JMO

 

[MittenScarpetta]

JMO, its highly likely they had someone local, familiar with the families, who helped them research the homes and families, their schedules, etc. They were most likely paid for their services and probably participated (in a peripheral manner) in the murders. The most likely candidates seem to be the family that escaped to AK.

As for ATV-type vehicles, perhaps they were used. IIRC, an analysis of the terrain and suspected railroad tracks in the area, the possibility of someone accessing the crime scenes via those routes from homes or nearby highways is unlikely. The terrain along the utility power lines ROW is too rugged and the RR tracks don't come anywhere close to the crime scenes.

Though the records have never been made public, it would be interesting to see if anyone in the neighborhood called 911 that night to report suspicious activities involving cars or ATV's. If professional killers were used (which JMO is highly likely), they would have arranged in advance for untraceable vehicles. It would also be interesting to view records that night of all the regional air traffic. I still think it's possible a crew was flown in, did the job with help from a few locals, then left again.

The killers haven't been caught, JMO, because they were strangers to the few locals who knew of their presence. None of those few locals have talked because doing so would be a death sentence for themselves and their families.

The only big clues for us are the red truck that was later sold to JM and LE's actions and comments about the W family, after they absconded to AK.

JMO, but whoever arrived at Chris’ Sr’s, was not only seen by CR1 (per unredacted preliminary autopsy reports) but also had to be let in by CR1 (no forced entry per Dewine/Reader). That itself is very telling that at least, CR1 knew his killer. CR1 trusted that person enough to not only let them in his home but also enough to somehow end up in the bedroom with the door shut before he was shot. JMHO.

Also, since we know from media articles that Chris was awake and saw his killer(a) arrive that also tells us he didn’t feel threatened. He didn’t call 911 nor did he arm himself to fend off a possible attack. The man didn’t see what was coming. JMHO.

Also adding-Reader stated himself that LE believed the killers were local.

 

[rsd1200]

Just adding to this, we haven’t been privy to know who even tried to get custody of the minor children. Is there a chance that the M’s/R’s didn’t even petition for any type of custody of any of the children? Who was Reader trying to keep the youngest two from in court?

When it comes to S, despite what KR2 said about HMR’s wishes, S had an established biological father. A minor child will most times be placed with a bio parent over any other petitioner unless that parent has been deemed unfit or is in police custody. K was essentially an orphan with an “unknown” father.

In addition, it seems CRob had no issues when it came to custody of CBR. IF JW was a suspect or a “laser focus” early on, can one assume CRob would’ve been as well as she was at FR’s until 1030pm on 4/21/16? We’re talking mere hours before the murders occurred and CRob was at one of the murder scenes for an extended period of time with two of the victims. IF and only IF she was treated as a potential suspect, authorities never took B away from her.

My point is-kids are not routinely taken from the surviving parent when the other parent dies unless there is immediate cause to do so . The two children who were placed in state custody after the murders were the two who were complete orphans. Yes, K has a father but at the time she legally did not. R was an orphan as well with both of his parents deceased. S & C(B)R were not legally orphaned.

The perfect example of this is Josh Powell. Josh Powell the named person of interest in his wife’s disappearance but retained custody of his children. It wasn’t until 2 years later and unrelated charges of child pornography surrounding Powell’s father that lead to the children being taken away and even then, that was still allowed supervised visits with the minor children.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/josh-powell-loses-custody-amid-child-porn-investigation/story?id=14628030

Disappearance of Susan Powell - Wikipedia

We don't know who the other two were who applied, but, MG put her name in the hat, and was awarded custody of both infants. She took on a great responsibility for a young, single, woman, with no children of her own. Kudos to her.

Adding to the family's pain is a legal fight involving three family members seeking custody of the children. A Pike County judge is shielding public access to those court hearings and records.

No arrests, many questions 6 months after 8 killed in Pike County

 

[Betty P]

JMO, but whoever arrived at Chris’ Sr’s, was not only seen by CR1 (per unredacted preliminary autopsy reports) but also had to be let in by CR1 (no forced entry per Dewine/Reader). That itself is very telling that at least, CR1 knew his killer. CR1 trusted that person enough to not only let them in his home but also enough to somehow end up in the bedroom with the door shut before he was shot. JMHO.

Also, since we know from media articles that Chris was awake and saw his killer(a) arrive that also tells us he didn’t feel threatened. He didn’t call 911 nor did he arm himself to fend off a possible attack. The man didn’t see what was coming. JMHO.

Also adding-Reader stated himself that LE believed the killers were local.

JMO, it's also possible that the local who knew CR1, whom he allowed into the trailer, was used by the killers for that purpose. We still have at least 3 possibilities:

1. Killers were local, familiar to CR1
2. Killers were outsiders who accessed CR1's trailer under auspices of someone (local) CR1 knew
3. Killers were outsiders disguised as LE officers, locals only helped with info, surveillance, etc.

There may be more possible scenarios. Scenario 1 is still lowest on my list as there's no prior history or evidence of any group of locals with adequate skills to pull off an elaborate hit against 8 people in 4 homes without leaving enough evidence behind to befuddle every LEO from locals to BCI to the AGO for 3 years.

Let's hope LE some day provides the answers and makes some arrests, but JMO the chances of that are growing dimmer every week.