OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #4

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  • #601
There is lot of money in used car and salvage car business.
This family can be commended for their entrepreneurship: Cannabis and car business.
 
  • #602
Well the DA was reliable and he confused everyone.

He's the Ohio Attorney General, Mike DeWine.


I watched his interviews and read the transcripts. He's trying to be careful with the info he gives. This situation seems more dangerous than usual, especially for LE and any potential witnesses.
 
  • #603
I heard, "There's blood all over the front room." And later in the call, And they dragged them in the bathroom." :thinking: At about 1:25 into the recording, BJM does seem to be speaking to someone else other than the 911 dispatcher, and is also distracted when first asked of her brother-in-law's name. Can anyone make out the last phrase she speaks? Is it, "People were murdered here?"

Also, if the door was locked and she had the key, proceeded inside, and then saw blood all over the front room, why would she go investigate further without first exiting the home (the killer(s) might still be inside, and to protect the safety of the children she apparently had with her? I am not casting suspicion on BJM. But for me, my first reaction would have been to run outside, get the children and myself into the car, and immediately call 911.
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  • #604
I think she called her father before she made the 911 call and he and another woman (her sister?) arrived and then she called 911. I don't think those are children's voices. At one point, I think she responded: "let's hope not" to the mans question. Perhaps he was asking about the other relatives and they went to check on them. Why she waited to call 911? Maybe she was in shock. It's hard to say how one would respond in such a case. I think I might call my dad too if he lived nearby, for safety and comfort. What a horrific discovery.
 
  • #605
He's the Ohio Attorney General, Mike DeWine.


I watched his interviews and read the transcripts. He's trying to be careful with the info he gives. This situation seems more dangerous than usual, especially for LE and any potential witnesses.
He made everyone feel like this was a professional hit in the beginning, which is where some of the confusion started.

If nothing about this confused you from the beginning, you are the only one because all were giving out conflicting information at the beginning.
 
  • #606
If you go 4 pictures to the right there is a dog that looks like a pit bull.

I see the dog, but I don't believe it's a pit bull. I'm familiar with the breed, and they have ears that stand up, at least partially - even without the cruel practice of cropping their ears. That looks like an older lab mix to me. JMHO
 
  • #607
I totally understand all of that. It is still very worth watching to get such a good visual representation of how the properties are oriented to each other. I wasn't touting the mystery format of the narrator. Just the visuals, which are far more in depth than anything else I have seen.

That's what I found fascinating. the homes were further apart then I imagined.

I also always assumed that Stone didn't just go over to check on Kenneth. I think it's more likely that as relatives started calling one another that someone got worried when they didn't get an answer from him. My guess is that someone called Stone and asked him to go check on Kenneth.
 
  • #608
I think she called her father before she made the 911 call and he and another woman (her sister?) arrived and then she called 911. I don't think those are children's voices. At one point, I think she responded: "let's hope not" to the mans question. Perhaps he was asking about the other relatives and they went to check on them. Why she waited to call 911? Maybe she was in shock. It's hard to say how one would respond in such a case. I think I might call my dad too if he lived nearby, for safety and comfort. What a horrific discovery.

I understand calling her father or other family AFTER she made the call to 911. I would be terrified after coming upon that scene. I'd want LE and protection there ASAP. Then I'd call my father and other family members for support. But that's just how I think I would handle it. I'd be so terrified.
 
  • #609
I see the dog, but I don't believe it's a pit bull. I'm familiar with the breed, and they have ears that stand up, at least partially - even without the cruel practice of cropping their ears. That looks like an older lab mix to me. JMHO
I saw some kind of black and tan "coon"
That had been on a chain so long all the grass was gone.
Could have been several dogs that used that area. They swapped them out kind a thing. He looked pretty "chill" to me. Considering everything going on... He wasn't on a hunt though! 🐶

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  • #610
I see the dog, but I don't believe it's a pit bull. I'm familiar with the breed, and they have ears that stand up, at least partially - even without the cruel practice of cropping their ears. That looks like an older lab mix to me. JMHO
Yeah that looks like a lab. It does look like it has a shock collar on it. The type that goes with The "Invisible fence" type thing to keep dogs contained within the yard. I've also seen shock collars to prevent dogs from barking which May explain why guard dogs didn't bark.
 
  • #611
Thanks for the link to Dana's, y'all!! Ok, I'm ok that the video can't be linked, but how about at least to Chris Jrs Facebook page? Because I am not seeing much. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Or maybe its late. Thanks again!

Oh, and in that video--- I learned from watching "Nightwatch" in New Orleans (best show ever!!!) that the ambulance can't proceed to the location until the scene is deemed safe for them to enter by the police. If there is still an active shooter, an ambulance would have no way to protect themselves. I never thought about it, but found it interesting! :)
 
  • #612
Nooo - don't close the thread as it's just hitting 5pm here in Oz and work is over for the day so I can really start reading up.....plus if you close it down I have like 2 whole threads of 70+ pages to get through when I wake up tomorrow :thinking:
 
  • #613
I understand calling her father or other family AFTER she made the call to 911. I would be terrified after coming upon that scene. I'd want LE and protection there ASAP. Then I'd call my father and other family members for support. But that's just how I think I would handle it. I'd be so terrified.

Her Father was only a half mile away. I would first run next door to Frankie's, not in anyway assuming he would be dead, too while calling Dad or 911.
 
  • #614
Thanks for the link to Dana's, y'all!! Ok, I'm ok that the video can't be linked, but how about at least to Chris Jrs Facebook page? Because I am not seeing much. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Or maybe its late. Thanks again!

Oh, and in that video--- I learned from watching "Nightwatch" in New Orleans (best show ever!!!) that the ambulance can't proceed to the location until the scene is deemed safe for them to enter by the police. If there is still an active shooter, an ambulance would have no way to protect themselves. I never thought about it, but found it interesting! :)
https://m.facebook.com/chris.rhoden.752?tsid=0.0692171948030591&source=typeahead
Here's the link to his page if that helps...
 
  • #615
I saw some kind of black and tan "coon"
That had been on a chain so long all the grass was gone.
Could have been several dogs that used that area. They swapped them out kind a thing. He looked pretty "chill" to me. Considering everything going on... He wasn't on a hunt though! 🐶

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I see 3 actually. MOO

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  • #616
Thanks for the link to Dana's, y'all!! Ok, I'm ok that the video can't be linked, but how about at least to Chris Jrs Facebook page? Because I am not seeing much. Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Or maybe its late. Thanks again!

Oh, and in that video--- I learned from watching "Nightwatch" in New Orleans (best show ever!!!) that the ambulance can't proceed to the location until the scene is deemed safe for them to enter by the police. If there is still an active shooter, an ambulance would have no way to protect themselves. I never thought about it, but found it interesting! :)
They could also have been waiting in the unlikely event that LEO was shot/injured.
Posted between the 2 scenes.
I have no idea the time of day either.
Here a coroner van takes bodies away, there I believe it would be an ambulance.

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  • #617
Just type his name in to FB (without the junior bit) and pick from one of hundreds of posts that have him tagged. That will get you to his FB page and from there his friends list is open.

Sorry the quote bit didn't work - this is to answer the post 3 or 4 above asking for a link to CRj SM page
 
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  • #619
Oh, one other thing. The 911 call from DS---- it is clearly being transferred from another county or something. You can hear the beginning saying ok, go ahead or whatever. Maybe some of the strangeness comes from the fact that he had already told the story and now had to tell it a second time. I can see that making it less emotional and weird.
 
  • #620
Oh, one other thing. The 911 call from DS---- it is clearly being transferred from another county or something. You can hear the beginning saying ok, go ahead or whatever. Maybe some of the strangeness comes from the fact that he had already told the story and now had to tell it a second time. I can see that making it less emotional and weird.
I agree. From what it sounds like some of the injuries would have clearly been unsurvivable to any person that found them.



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