OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5

[Ray_of_hope]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...elped-identify-killers-removed-murderers.html

I would like to hear from anyone who understands trailcams... I am having a tough time reconciling cameras for hunting/security and possibly used by someone doing something illegal and using them for security??

First I recall Chris JR or his brother mentioned trailcams on their Facebook page. Wouldn't that have been a no no? It tipped their hand didn't it? THen again I thought those cameras are often camouflaged so by sharing you are an enthusiasts doesn't say where you put them! How did the killers know (it was dark when these murders occurred right?)

This article says Kenneth Rhoden had multiple trailcams on his property and the killer(s) took them. Don't these trailcams send images to a cloud account and one's cellphone or computer gets a thumbnail image just seconds after the camera is tripped? Wouldn't the camera trip if someone took it?

Could one of the search warrants have been for the telecom and/or cloud storage sites/companies?

Are there GPS trackers on them? Maybe even a "find a phone app"? With so many hunters in that region, when I looked at them online many/most looked very similar to one another. Is there a way to distinguish the ones stolen at the time of the murders from others in the woods near the murder sites? Would it help for the public to know more of the specifics about them? Could legitimate hunters or pawn shops or even online auction or sell sites provide leads?

And finally could they have possibly been tossed down a well or cistern and that was why the dive team was there?

ALL speculation .... Hoping someone can share some specifics about trailcams in general and in that region. I know Verizon cell service works there because my parents travel 32 often. I read where the SIM card used has to be from a company who provides 3 bars or greater signal strength.

Could the trailcam set up be the reason so many were killed?

I have a trail cam and it has a tiny 'card' in it that I plug into a device, a reader, and in turn plug that into my computer for videos. Very telling that someone knew where trail cams were and took them. No, I don't hunt but I study the wildlife around me. There may be trail cams that are more sophisticate than mine but I don't know.
On the other hand, my home security cameras are motion activated and send info to a server where I can access them. Hope this helps.

 

[VicVixvi]

This is literally the best news I have heard all day. You are local right? Can you go to the vigil and report back for us?!

I'm thinking more like go to the vigil, stick your cell phone video in Leonard's face and tell him you are a reporter. Well, let me put it this way ... we'd have the entire thing solved by morning.

 

[Bonnie Blue]

Thank you so much

It made me cry, they were all so young

Tragic

The magnitude of it all really just slaps you in the face when you read their obits. Simply unimaginable.

 

[The OG]

Not true..

What part, Rhodens or the locations?

 

[Paulas88]

I'm thinking more like go to the vigil, stick your cell phone video in Leonard's face and tell him you are a reporter. Well, let me put it this way ... we'd have the entire thing solved by morning.

Well, let me put it this way, you're funny VicVixvi! Made me laugh!

 

[JaimeInLA]

Jeff Ruby says he rescinded the reward because he feared the cartel would go after his family. Interesting that there is no other reward at all in this case. Why hasn't Crime Stoppers or anyone else put up a reward?

[video=twitter;726172060943261696]https://twitter.com/TheRealJeffRuby/status/726172060943261696[/video]

 

[Eefive]

Most trail cams are motion activated and can record still photos or short videos (15 sec). There are some that can broadcast short distances. I'm not familiar with ones that use the cloud, they could exist. Trail cams run $50 to maybe $500. They don't last to long, maybe a year or two and are frequently stolen.

I have several in the woods. Once a day or every other day I go and pull the memory card and replace it with a blank card. Then take the used card and download the photos to my computer. The other way some people do it is to take an iPad to the camera and read the card there.

Hope the info helps

 

[Toralei]

If she did happen upon the killer(s), I can't think of any reason why they would allow her to call 911.

If it was someone she knew and they threatened her to keep quiet about it.

But after thinking about it some more, if LM and BJM's brother were there it doesn't make sense for the killer(s) to let her.

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[JaimeInLA]

I'm thinking more like go to the vigil, stick your cell phone video in Leonard's face and tell him you are a reporter. Well, let me put it this way ... we'd have the entire thing solved by morning.

So true!! We need a local to run over to that vigil! LOL!

 

[The OG]

Is the family photo from Ruby's Twitter? That's a pretty stupid thing to do. I fear the cartel will retaliate against my family, so here's a photo of how they look.

 

[pisces51]

Not true..

That's it???

 

[Meemaw12]

Is the family photo from Ruby's Twitter? That's a pretty stupid thing to do. I fear the cartel will retaliate against my family, so here's a photo of how they look.

I thought the same thing when I saw it.

 

[birpu]

Probably should add audio links for 911 calls to timeline but I don't know how you do it without the giant video screen appearing in the link -

So you could just use the transcripts:

transcripts (both together): http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...ipts-911-calls-pike-county-slayings/83445300/

 

[lonesomepaws]

If this is not allowed please delete sorry.
But does anyone know what was the cause of death of the man DR seemed so fixated on? She was definitely not in a good place emotionally it seems to me. Just saying

single accident car wreck

 

[JaimeInLA]

Is the family photo from Ruby's Twitter? That's a pretty stupid thing to do. I fear the cartel will retaliate against my family, so here's a photo of how they look.

Right?!?! Not smart at all.

 

[VicVixvi]

Sourcing/expansion for 2 previous entries and one new addition. All of these are Friday, 4-22.

8:21 am -- The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is leading the investigation. It sent more than a dozen agents to assist the Pike County Sheriff's Office after the request for help came in at 8:21 a.m.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohio-shooting-pike-county/

12:13 pm -- at least 4 BCI Crime Scene Units are seen at the intersection of Hwy 32 and Union Hill Road headed toward the crime scene.



(Source: 4-22 tweet & photo by Gannett Ohio reporter @saranealeigh w/photo showing 4 BCI CSU trucks. Tweet time was 12:13 am -- I tried to include the photo, but I have to reinvent the wheel I know to get it done. I'll work on that tonight unless someone else is able to dig it out.)


1:36 pm -- Attorney General Mike DeWine sends out a news release [first one issued] stating that at least seven people were murdered in “execution-style killings.” DeWine says it is not an active-shooter situation. However, investigators are still trying to determine if the killer – or killers – is among the victims or on the loose.

http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...t-we-know-pike-county-mass-shooting/83428434/

Actually the first press conference was held at the checkpoint at Union Hill Road and Rt 32 shortly before noon on Friday morning. It was given by a Sheriff from a nearby county There should be information on it in the first pages of Thread #1.

 

[winterrose]

Leonard's talking again.. at some type of vigil being held tonight.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Angenette5/status/726175343837507585/photo/1

Everytime he talks I hold my breath hoping he doesn't say anything he's not suppose to, but yet he's given more info than the LE and AG.

 

[pisces51]

Jeff Ruby says he rescinded the reward because he feared the cartel would go after his family. Interesting that there is no other reward at all in this case. Why hasn't Crime Stoppers or anyone else put up a reward?

[video=twitter;726172060943261696]https://twitter.com/TheRealJeffRuby/status/726172060943261696[/video]

He could have made a contribution for the funeral costs instead...just sayin'.

 

[DatelineFan]

If she did happen upon the killer(s), I can't think of any reason why they would allow her to call 911.

Me, either. That makes no sense. I think most people know that there's a possibility of an officer being nearby on another call when dispatched.

 

[Everyday Grace]

Updated, with new sources:

2012 – AG DeWine issued press release announcing LE had discovered “a major marijuana grow site” in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel. During the discovery, 1200 plants were destroyed by investigators and two abandoned campsites were located, which they believe had belonged to Mexican nationals. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?306329-Media-amp-Timeline-NO-DISCUSSION-Pike-Co-OH-8-Family-Members-Murdered>)

Feb 2016: 38-pound box of marijuana mailed from CA discovered at Piketon Post Office, investigation leads to discovery of "shatter" operation. No arrests are made. No suspects are named.

10 days prior to murders: A Facebook threat is made by a teen saying he will "Go up to Union Hill and take them all out" (paraphrasing, but it was close to that)

4 days prior to murders: Hanna R gives birth

2 days prior to murders: Woman involved in road rage incident with Chris Jr is in court and is sentenced (

8am Thursday: Dana arrives at work. She was an hour late. Find out she has to work an unexpected double shift.

11pm Thursday: Dana leaves work - Hillcrest Nursing Home - 14 miles away per CNN

Approx 11:20pm: Dana arrives home


Sometime between 4am and 7am: All 8 victims are murdered (except possibly Kenneth)
Bodies found at 3122 UHR: Dana, Hanna Rhoden, Chris Rhoden Jr.
Bodies found at 4077 UHR: Chris Sr. and Gary (3 GSW to head)
Bodies found at 4199 URH: Frankie and Hannah Hazel Gilley
Body found near 799 LFR: Kenneth Rhoden (1 GSW to head)
(http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...y-dead-as-police-hunt-for-killer(s)-5/page55)

7:00 am Friday: Bobby Jo arrives at Chris Sr.'s house. She tells LE she arrived alone.

7:49 am Friday: Bobby Jo calls 911 to report Chris and Gary's bodies

7:53 am -- PCSO Dep. Music and Dep. Chandler are dispatched to 4077 Union Hill Road in response to the 7:49 911 call.

8:07 am -- Dep. Chandler arrived "at a neighboring residence” (Frankie’s?) where he was flagged down by a subject. Dep. Chandler advised that he needed “multiple ambulances due to multiple down at multiple residences."

8:12 am -- Dep. Music, Dep. Ball, and Maj. Evans all arrived "on scene" where they were approached by [Redacted] who stated: "there are two more dead people here." [Redacted] pointed to the residence at 4077 Union Hill.

8:21 am --PCSO request for assistance sent to BCI (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/)

12:13 pm -- at least 4 BCI Crime Scene Unit trucks are seen at the intersection of Hwy 32 and Union Hill Road headed towards the crime scenes. (Source: tweet including a photo made by Gannett Ohio reporter @saranealeigh https://t.co/jI6Rl2LV2L)

1:26 pm Friday: Donald Stone calls 911 to report Kenneth's body

1:36 pm -- Attorney General Mike DeWine sends out a news release [first one issued] stating that at least seven people were murdered in “execution-style killings.” DeWine says it is not an active-shooter situation. However, investigators are still trying to determine if the killer – or killers – is among the victims or on the loose.http://www.chillicothegazette.com/st...ting/83428434/

3:41 am Saturday: Police arrive at Bobby Jo's residence and aggressively question her and 5 others
edit note

Saturday afternoon: Another Kenneth Rhoden (brother and cousin to victims) calls 911 in Greenup KY to report being followed and chased by two men in a car (http://www.wlwt.com/news/rhoden-fami...ports/39247458)

Last entry for now.

I located sourcing info for the photo of the 4-22 PCSO Incident Report that was released on 4-27.

I'm on my phone, so someone else may have to take this to the next steps.

WS post where a photo of the document on a computer screen and a transcript are posted:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-hunt-for-killer(s)-4&p=12502409#post12502409

I can't seem to provide a link to the tweet itself, but it was made on 4-27 at 6:25 EDT by @chrisgraves.

Chris Graves is a columnist with the Cincinnati Enquirer (Gannett Ohio -- mainstream media)