Found Alive OH - Rainn Peterson, 2, North Bloomfield, 2 Oct 2015 - #2

[katydid23]

I think what happened is the kid took off. Doesn't sound like anyone was watching her when she went missing. What would have been the point of abducting her only to dump her so close to her home?

The speculation was that someone wanted to regain custody of their kids. So if one of them got lost while under the GGP's care, then maybe the courts would rule in that person's favor. It probably didn't happen that way but some are discussing the possibility.

 

[blue22]

As it is, she is under suspicion and all but condemned as guilty of doing something wrong in this situation. Had I been her, I would have been furious that I could not see my daughter right away. It is my understanding that she left the children there while she got an apartment ready for them all to move into. CPS had already ok'd it all and she had custody. Since she fell under suspicion of having something to do with this, no doubt spurred by her drug history, her staying with family off and on all the time, her dv history, etc., she has been denied custody. I think she has been accused and questioned and held responsible even though it did not occur on her watch. Of course, I do not know all the details and sometimes it is impossible not to be suspicious of a person when we know their history. However, her words ring true to me and her concern for her child seems quite sincere.

I think people were suspicious, because she was talking to the media and was caught in several lies. Of course, if a person lies...LE will be suspicious too. I also think she is genuinely concerned for her child, but I also still don't understand the lies. I think people get hung up on lies, whether they are indicative of something suspicious or not.

 

[jjenny]

The speculation was that someone wanted to regain custody of their kids. So if one of them got lost while under the GGP's care, then maybe the courts would rule in that person's favor. It probably didn't happen that way but some are discussing the possibility.

That doesn't add up because apparently mother already got custody before this happened. Also, we would have to believe that this person would then dump the kid in the field in horrible condition (all wet, bad diaper rush), where the kid could have died from exposure.

 

[Mollyandme]

I read that it is standard procedure for Children's Service to take temporary custody in a missing child's case upon recovery of that child.

Not sure where you read that but it's definitely not standard to automatically take temporary custody, it depends on many factors. It's highly likely that CPS will do an investigation which might lead to taking temporary custody but it's not like CPS can just go in front of a judge and say "we are seeking temporary custody of the minor child because he or she was missing from their residence and was then found alive." There has to be a lot more than that and there are many different factors that need to be considered. There's also the differences between just taking legal custody and taking legal and physical. It can get complicated.

 

[ILOKAL]

Not sure where you read that but it's definitely not standard to automatically take temporary custody, it depends on many factors. It's highly likely that CPS will do an investigation which might lead to taking temporary custody but it's not like CPS can just go in front of a judge and say "we are seeking temporary custody of the minor child because he or she was missing from their residence and was then found alive." There has to be a lot more than that and there are many different factors that need to be considered. There's also the differences between just taking legal custody and taking legal and physical. It can get complicated.

I can't imagine a judge NOT signing an emergency order based ONLY on the fact that a 26-mo old child went missing for 48 hrs. A hearing would then be set for 72-hrs later (which it was) to show cause why the state's emergency temporary custody should be removed (which it was). No more evidence would be required from the state in this case to get the emergency order. IMO

 

[Onebest]

I think people were suspicious, because she was talking to the media and was caught in several lies. Of course, if a person lies...LE will be suspicious too. I also think she is genuinely concerned for her child, but I also still don't understand the lies. I think people get hung up on lies, whether they are indicative of something suspicious or not.

This is very very difficult. If you have ever been in a relationship with someone who has substance abuse issues or had a child with this problem you know what the usual scenario is. I am not saying Mommy in this situation has or has had substance abuse issues and that is the root of her lies, I don't really know for a fact. But I do not for a fact that a person with addictions can tell such huge whooper stories that are SO believable you can think there most certainly is something wrong with YOU if do not believe them. "Normal" folks make decisions based on what a normal person would do that is the right thing for their family and unfortunately that is not the case when there might be mind altering substances in the picture. In my experience, they want what they want for themselves the most.

Again, this is just me talking in generalized terms. I hope Mommy will be OK and be able to have a healthy relationship with her children. I am so glad baby Rainn is alive and safe. When I look at her photos I see a tenacious little girl with a strong spirt in her eyes and beautiful smile. I pray no matter what her living circumstances she will be safe and happy. JMO of course

 

[PJFL]

She was probably making dinner AND doing the laundry. I often do both at once. Mix the ingredients, put them in the oven, run and put the clothes in the dryer, come back and start making the salad, etc etc...

What's an oven? What's a salad? Laundry, I know all about that.

 

[Grammar]

Other than Brandi, has anyone else said that she had custody? I don't know much about it but the few cases I am familiar with, once the judge grants custody back to the parent(s), the kid(s) go back home. There is no waiting for weeks for the paperwork to be mailed. Plus, if Brandi had custody, the hospital could not keep her from her child without a court order. The fact that GGM was allowed to stay with Rainn in the hospital while Brandi was only given a 30 minute supervised visit tells me that it is unlikely that Brandi had custody. If it was an emergency custody situation, GGM would likely not be able to stay with Rainn nor would the younger brother be left in the GGP's care, imo.

 

[Grammar]

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This is very very difficult. If you have ever been in a relationship with someone who has substance abuse issues or had a child with this problem you know what the usual scenario is. I am not saying Mommy in this situation has or has had substance abuse issues and that is the root of her lies, I don't really know for a fact. But I do not for a fact that a person with addictions can tell such huge whooper stories that are SO believable you can think there most certainly is something wrong with YOU if do not believe them. "Normal" folks make decisions based on what a normal person would do that is the right thing for their family and unfortunately that is not the case when there might be mind altering substances in the picture. In my experience, they want what they want for themselves the most.

Again, this is just me talking in generalized terms. I hope Mommy will be OK and be able to have a healthy relationship with her children. I am so glad baby Rainn is alive and safe. When I look at her photos I see a tenacious little girl with a strong spirt in her eyes and beautiful smile. I pray no matter what her living circumstances she will be safe and happy. JMO of course

I so agree. Substance abusers will lie, even when the truth is even better than the lie. Seen it so many times.

 

[Grammar]

I can't imagine a judge NOT signing an emergency order based ONLY on the fact that a 26-mo old child went missing for 48 hrs. A hearing would then be set for 72-hrs later (which it was) to show cause why the state's emergency temporary custody should be removed (which it was). No more evidence would be required from the state in this case to get the emergency order. IMO

Yet the other two children were not removed from the home. Unless the home is unsafe or the child is being abused, children aren't normally uprooted from their homes simply because one of them snuck out the door and got lost. Let it happen three or four times and there's an issue, but not just one time.

 

[jjenny]

Yet the other two children were not removed from the home. Unless the home is unsafe or the child is being abused, children aren't normally uprooted from their homes simply because one of them snuck out the door and got lost. Let it happen three or four times and there's an issue, but not just one time.

She could have died from that one time if that volunteer didn't find her when he did.

 

[blue22]

This is very very difficult. If you have ever been in a relationship with someone who has substance abuse issues or had a child with this problem you know what the usual scenario is. I am not saying Mommy in this situation has or has had substance abuse issues and that is the root of her lies, I don't really know for a fact. But I do not for a fact that a person with addictions can tell such huge whooper stories that are SO believable you can think there most certainly is something wrong with YOU if do not believe them. "Normal" folks make decisions based on what a normal person would do that is the right thing for their family and unfortunately that is not the case when there might be mind altering substances in the picture. In my experience, they want what they want for themselves the most.

Again, this is just me talking in generalized terms. I hope Mommy will be OK and be able to have a healthy relationship with her children. I am so glad baby Rainn is alive and safe. When I look at her photos I see a tenacious little girl with a strong spirt in her eyes and beautiful smile. I pray no matter what her living circumstances she will be safe and happy. JMO of course

Oh yes. Addiction is prolific in my family down both sides. I will keep my thoughts to myself about whether I think she is currently on drugs. I suppose that is a CPS matter. I do also hope mom will be OK and she will eventually have her children back with her.

I was just saying that in the general public, the thought is "if your kid is missing and you are innocent, why on earth would you lie?" I suspect that she was worried about how her past would be perceived and about how her present would be judged. I think it was total self preservation. My opinion is, self preservation goes out the door when your kid is missing. But at the same time, none of us truly know exactly how we would react if our child was missing.

 

[Mollyandme]

I can't imagine a judge NOT signing an emergency order based ONLY on the fact that a 26-mo old child went missing for 48 hrs. A hearing would then be set for 72-hrs later (which it was) to show cause why the state's emergency temporary custody should be removed (which it was). No more evidence would be required from the state in this case to get the emergency order. IMO

Agreed on this case but the post I responded to was in regards to this being standard procedure in all cases of missing children, which is false.

 

[ILOKAL]

Agreed on this case but the post I responded to was in regards to this being standard procedure in all cases of missing children, which is false.

And that's why Brandi had nothing to do with the state's motion for an emergency order nor the judge granting it. People/posters think the state got temporary custody of Rainn because of something/anything having to do with Brandi and that's simply not the case. Now during the shelter hearing (also show cause), the temporary placement with the GGRPs took things into consideration that we know nothing about, except that the placement with the GGPAs is temporary. IMO

 

[Confusion]

And that's why Brandi had nothing to do with the state's motion for an emergency order nor the judge granting it. People/posters think the state got temporary custody of Rainn because of something/anything having to do with Brandi and that's simply not the case. Now during the shelter hearing (also show cause), the temporary placement with the GGRPs took things into consideration that we know nothing about, except that the placement with the GGPAs is temporary. IMO

My belief is that they decided to have her stay there temporarily because it's the most familiar to her, and she needs to feel as safe and stable as possible until she is fully healed physically and less traumatized emotionally. Once she is feeling better, they can start working on getting her back with her mother, but I think it would be a mistake to rush things at her age.

MOO

 

[EllieBee]

Bump for Rainn

 

[osu]

Life is Changed for Family of Rainn Peterson
Wednesday, October 14, 2015

~snipped

Rainn, 26 months, returned to the Peterson home from the hospital last week and could be found Tuesday running around the house and chasing her brother Lucian, 3, just like before.

“She’s a very active little girl,” Dora Mae said. “She’s a tough cookie. She can beat her brother up, but she’s also so kind and gentle.”

One thing that has changed is the level of security at the Peterson home: new locks on all of the doors to prevent people from entering or leaving, and motion sensors that indicate whenever someone is approaching the house.

“You have to have a key to get in, and you have to have a key to get out,” Dora Mae said.

The extra security is designed to prevent a repeat of Rainn’s disappearance, even though the Petersons and investigators working on the case still don’t know why she disappeared or whether anyone else was involved.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/13/life-changed-family-rainn-peterson/#sthash.8oU5GhKj.dpuf

 

[osu]

Forensic analysis of Rainn Peterson's clothing could lead to evidence about what led to her disappearance.


Sheriff: Analysis of Rainn’s clothing could be important
Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Investigators are hoping a forensic evaluation of the clothing worn by Rainn Peterson when she was found a week ago will help answer questions about the girl’s disappearance.

Trumbull County Sheriff Thomas Altiere said the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation will be analyzing the clothing. “That’s important,” he said.

But the child’s mother, Brandi Peterson, 24, passed a lie-detector test; and her great-grandparents, Richard and Dora Peterson, have been cleared of any negligence or responsibility for the disappearance, Altiere said.

“She’s like Aunt Bea from Andy Griffith,” the sheriff said of Dora Peterson. “She’s a wonderful woman.”

~snipped

Detectives with the Trumbull County Sheriff’s Office and FBI agents spent some time in the fields near the Peterson home after Rainn was found trying to determine what path she may have taken, but that did not “provide an answer,” Altiere said.


More at link:
http://www.vindy.com/news/2015/oct/...-is-important/?newswatch#sthash.PM7w9sG9.dpuf

 

[Cricket99]

I am curious about the neighbor whose house they searched twice...:thinking:

 

[osu]

Short video of Rainn chasing her brother Lucian, 3 around the house on Tuesday.

http://www.vindy.com/videos/2015/oct/13/3703/#.dpuf