OH OH - Roberta 'Bobby' Snider, 70, Hartville, 4 Jan 2018 *Guilty*

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I watch the video at your link and it mentioned that according to the polygraph LE believes his story about what happened that morning and believes that she is in the river. They didn't say anything about believing his story about how she died in the days prior. Interesting.

If his most recent story does prove to be true (and not anything more sinister), I wonder if he could still be charged with how he disposed of her body. I bet so but I haven't seen what those charges could be. Does anybody know?

Most states have a variety of charges along the lines of abuse of a corpse, improper disposal of a corpse, failure to report a death. In a lot of states, these are misdemeanors. Not sure specifically about OH and TN, or how they would prove what state the death occurred in. I would think he could potentially face charges in both states.

ETA

Looks like minimal penalties in OH...

A former funeral home employee who was convicted of sexually abusing a corpse was sentenced today in Lucas County Common Pleas Court to one year in prison.

Lawrence J. Clement, 57, was sentenced to the maximum term for behind bars after pleading no contest last month to abuse of a corpse.*
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/20...gets-maximum-sentence-for-abusing-corpse.html


A bit harsher in TN...

39-17-312. Abuse of corpse.

(a)**A person commits an offense who, without legal privilege, knowingly:

* * *(1)**Physically mistreats a corpse in a manner offensive to the sensibilities of an ordinary person;

* * *(2)**Disinters a corpse that has been buried or otherwise interred; or

* * *(3)**Disposes of a corpse in a manner known to be in violation of law.

(b)**A person commits an offense who, without legal authority or privilege, knowingly offers to sell, sells, offers to purchase or purchases previously buried human skeletal remains. Any remains seized in violation of this subsection (b) shall be confiscated and subject to disposition as provided for in §§ 11-6-104 and 11-6-119.

(c)**A violation of this section is a Class E felony.
https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-39/chapter-17/part-3/39-17-312/


Class E felony

Not less than one (1) year nor more than six (6) years in prison. In addition, the jury may assess a fine not to exceed three thousand dollars ($3,000), unless otherwise provided by statute
https://web.utk.edu/~scheb/overview.html

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[LaLaw2000]

You don’t have to be hospitalized to be tested for dementia.

Edited to add: other than an MRI to look at white matter changes in the brain sometimes caused by Alzheimer’s, all other tests are cognitive tests.

I know you don't have to be hospitalized to test for dementia, but I do feel an MRI of the could possibly be a valuable aid. Actually, I was thinking this hospitalization would be more of a family urging than anything, or the move of a defense attorney if he has one.

MOO

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Well, we now seem to know that he had her in the back of his pick-up when he went to Graceland. Now, that area had a cap over it. I hate to say this, but IF she died en route, there's no doubt that the body began to decompose back there. Hoping against hope at this point that there is some dementia involved and he loved his wife dearly; perhaps he didn't want to see or smell the decomp of his beloved.

I know this may sound gross to some, and I apologize if it offended anyone.

 

[meanmaryjean]

I know you don't have to be hospitalized to test for dementia, but I do feel an MRI of the could possibly be a valuable aid. Actually, I was thinking this hospitalization would be more of a family urging than anything, or the move of a defense attorney if he has one.

MOO

Here's the problem with that- you cannot just get someone admitted to the hospital because you want to. There has to be a reason, and a medically justifiable one at that. It's not like a hotel or a retail transaction.

 

[Yvettea]

Well, we now seem to know that he had her in the back of his pick-up when he went to Graceland. Now, that area had a cap over it. I hate to say this, but IF she died en route, there's no doubt that the body began to decompose back there. Hoping against hope at this point that there is some dementia involved and he loved his wife dearly; perhaps he didn't want to see or smell the decomp of his beloved.

I know this may sound gross to some, and I apologize if it offended anyone.

This sounds reasonable, especially if she died at home.

 

[Elainera]

If she died at home, I can't think of any reason why he would take her on a road trip and throw her off a bridge. Why not just call her doctor, family, etc, and do it the normal way, have her cremated etc? It's what she wanted after all, to be cremated and her ashes to be returned to earth in some way. Why would he instead decide not to cremate her and throw her in a river? It makes no sense. It would also be much more difficult for him to accomplish rather than let professionals deal with the dead weight of a corpse. And for what purpose? Imo she did not die at home.

 

[Tony1902]

Jeez Louise, freakiest thing I've ever read on WS.

 

[Doghairrules]

Here's the problem with that- you cannot just get someone admitted to the hospital because you want to. There has to be a reason, and a medically justifiable one at that. It's not like a hotel or a retail transaction.

Amen to that. I have an elderly relative whose depression and anxiety got completely out of hand last year - she wouldn’t do anything, she cried all day every day, wasn’t sleeping and was suicidal. Her daughter never could get her admitted to a psych unit. It was ridiculous.

 

[Detectivediva]

If she died at home, I can't think of any reason why he would take her on a road trip and throw her off a bridge. Why not just call her doctor, family, etc, and do it the normal way, have her cremated etc? It's what she wanted after all, to be cremated and her ashes to be returned to earth in some way. Why would he instead decide not to cremate her and throw her in a river? It makes no sense. It would also be much more difficult for him to accomplish rather than let professionals deal with the dead weight of a corpse. And for what purpose? Imo she did not die at home.

The only thing that I can think of is that perhaps he promised her that he would take her Graceland one last time and she died before they have a chance, so he took her anyway...keeping his promise. I know to a rational person like you and me this doesn't make much sense but it might to someone with signs of dementia. But I agree with you that she didn't likely die at home.

The only thing that makes sense to me as to why he would have tossed her in the river is that he is responsible for her death. I'm hoping it was a mercy killing and not something more sinister. He's obviously trying to hide evidence of how she died IMHO.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Well, we now seem to know that he had her in the back of his pick-up when he went to Graceland. Now, that area had a cap over it. I hate to say this, but IF she died en route, there's no doubt that the body began to decompose back there. Hoping against hope at this point that there is some dementia involved and he loved his wife dearly; perhaps he didn't want to see or smell the decomp of his beloved.

I know this may sound gross to some, and I apologize if it offended anyone.

It was pretty cold, though. High in Memphis on the 4th was 30. I don't think there would have been significant decomp at that temperature.

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[always reading]

Here's the problem with that- you cannot just get someone admitted to the hospital because you want to. There has to be a reason, and a medically justifiable one at that. It's not like a hotel or a retail transaction.

I work for a hospital. You actually can get admitted pretty easily, or at least overnight observation. Symptoms like confusion, altered mental status, or chest pain will get u admitted. All you have to do is say u have the symptoms and they will run all kinds of tests.

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[meanmaryjean]

I work for a hospital. You actually can get admitted pretty easily, or at least overnight observation. Symptoms like confusion, altered mental status, or chest pain will get u admitted. All you have to do is say u have the symptoms and they will run all kinds of tests.

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You may get a 23 hour obs- max.

 

[always reading]

You may get a 23 hour obs- max.

Umm..... that's why I said overnight observation.

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[LaLaw2000]

Here's the problem with that- you cannot just get someone admitted to the hospital because you want to. There has to be a reason, and a medically justifiable one at that. It's not like a hotel or a retail transaction.

Well, I know a number of people who have been admitted either with false symptoms or simply because they wanted to be admitted by stating they would feel better if admitted and testing done. At Phillips age, it wouldn't be hard to get admitted.

I'll just go back to reading as every statement I make is attacked or dismissed. No need for sarcasm...........a woman is missing!

MOO

 

[KooshBall]

Where I live the local drug addicts admit themselves to the hospital all the time so they can get drugs. The staff knows what they are up to but they can't refuse to admit someone who says they have a medical issue.

 

[Elainera]

I thought meanmaryjean was saying, you can't get someone else admitted to a hospital.because you think they should be checked out if that person doesn't agree. But I might be wrong.

 

[JazzTune]

Well, I know a number of people who have been admitted either with false symptoms or simply because they wanted to be admitted by stating they would feel better if admitted and testing done. At Phillips age, it wouldn't be hard to get admitted.

I'll just go back to reading as every statement I make is attacked or dismissed. No need for sarcasm...........a woman is missing!

MOO

Oh no, please don't go back to lurking. Your input is very much valued!

I know it can feel at times as though our opinions are not appreciated, but I don't think that's true at all.

We all come with different perspectives and personalities. Tone can be so hard to interpret too. It can come across in ways not intended at all.

I enjoy reading every post, and I'm so heartened when I see a busy thread. I'm grateful that other people are interested enough to offer and share their thoughts. No matter what our areas of expertise, we can all learn from each other.

Sometimes I feel like I'm watching a tennis match. Someone makes a good point, and then the other side brings up a good point too. Back and forth, and I learn something from each post.

I don't think of it as either/or, but that all opinions are needed and helpful.

So please, don't go into hiding! Stay and share your thoughts. We need you too!

 

[LisaWL7TR]

If she died at home, I can't think of any reason why he would take her on a road trip and throw her off a bridge. Why not just call her doctor, family, etc, and do it the normal way, have her cremated etc? It's what she wanted after all, to be cremated and her ashes to be returned to earth in some way. Why would he instead decide not to cremate her and throw her in a river? It makes no sense. It would also be much more difficult for him to accomplish rather than let professionals deal with the dead weight of a corpse. And for what purpose? Imo she did not die at home.

Just a quick reply, I haven't read all while I am thinking of it- He said she wanted to go one more time to Graceland. Perhaps she died before he could take her alive and felt bad. He also mentioned she didnt want her ashes sitting somewhere. I do think he is having episodes of dementia. Moo.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Thanks for the kind words, JazzTune. I just felt sarcasm was out of place in such a serious matter. Of course no one thinks that a hospital is like a retail transaction or a hotel. We have had suspects in the past right here at WS who checked themselves into the hospital to delay facing the music. I am almost 68 yrs. old with Medicare and very good supplemental insurance. I guarantee you I could go into the hospital this very night were I so inclined.

I want Bobby/Roberta found. She deserves better than this. Phillip was apparently in good enough health to make a long round-trip drive and even heave his wife over a railing into a river. I find it curious he needs hospitalization now. MOO

I'm very much okay with someone not agreeing with me. That doesn't matter. I just don't like sarcasm in a serious matter or being talked down to.

Been here at WS along time and love you all!

MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

Am I the only one who thought perhaps he is in the hospital because of an attempted suicide? Whether he played a part in the death of his wife or it was a natural death, he might be feeling a huge amount of guilt right now for tossing her body over a bridge. :moo: