Found Deceased OH - Skylar Williams, Mansfield, Abduction at Gunpoint, 11 Feb 2019

[Daisy47]

This was such a sad case. Heartbreaking. This kind man who called 911 is struggling as well, but he did the right thing.
Man who called 911 for abducted college student killed: 'Sorry I couldn't have done more'

"When they walked in, that girl, Skylar Williams, looked me right in the face and said 'Help me.' I mean, she didn't say it out loud, she just, you know, mouthed it, 'Help me,'" Simpson said.

He said he walked outside to get help.

"I grabbed my gun and my phone, called 911. I told them what happened. I said, 'I need a police officer here now,'" Simpson said.

While on the line with 911, Pounds and Williams came outside, according to Simpson.

He said he told Pounds to stop.

Simpson said the pair got into a dark-colored Dodge Caravan we've learned was a stolen rental with Quebec tags, and Pounds sped off onto southbound I-71.”

 

[StarEyes]

Suspect's weapon matches bullet that killed Ohio woman

I’m not sure if this one has been posted. Incredibly sad.

 

[Snoopster]

When will men stop killing their partners/ex-partners? Why is it all about them? Why can't they move on without resorting to violence? I get that they might feel depressed, but please, please, please turn off your testosterone. It's killing people!!

 

[CaseyLPC]

When will men stop killing their partners/ex-partners? Why is it all about them? Why can't they move on without resorting to violence? I get that they might feel depressed, but please, please, please turn off your testosterone. It's killing people!!

With all due respect, I don't believe it is a testosterone issue. I feel it is more of an entitlement issue. "She is mine, and if I can't have her no one else can either." I don't have any research to back that up at the moment, just kind of a gut feeling. I know that my testosterone has never led to the death of anyone.

 

[StarEyes]

I think it’s a form of control. They (man or woman) no longer get a say in what the significant other does, where they go, who they see, etc. That feeling of not being in control freaks them out. Most people would go to therapy if they are struggling with a breakup, not kill someone. There’s something off with these people. Losing control trips the switch. JMO, of course.

 

[Snoopster]

With all due respect, I don't believe it is a testosterone issue. I feel it is more of an entitlement issue. "She is mine, and if I can't have her no one else can either." I don't have any research to back that up at the moment, just kind of a gut feeling. I know that my testosterone has never led to the death of anyone.

Good point.
I'm still going to say that when females feel entitlement (and they are no 'better' than males in this regard) they don't tend to kill. That was my point. It's the testosterone that leads to violence.

 

[cocomod]

Bulletproof vest. I wasn’t expecting that.

I wasn't either. That says that he was going to make sure that she died before he did.

Domestic violence needs to be taken seriously. I hate hearing stories like this one and the many others where a partner decides that they can't move on and leave someone to live their life.

 

[wendybtn]

Why don’t the police have body cameras, though...

I think it’s a form of control. They (man or woman) no longer get a say in what the significant other does, where they go, who they see, etc. That feeling of not being in control freaks them out. Most people would go to therapy if they are struggling with a breakup, not kill someone. There’s something off with these people. Losing control trips the switch. JMO, of course.

You also cannot account for someone's general temperament and mental stability. Lack of impulse control, lack of coping skills or frank mental illness (undiagnosed or otherwise) also play a role.

 

[cvaldez1975]

This was such a sad case. Heartbreaking. This kind man who called 911 is struggling as well, but he did the right thing.
Man who called 911 for abducted college student killed: 'Sorry I couldn't have done more'

"When they walked in, that girl, Skylar Williams, looked me right in the face and said 'Help me.' I mean, she didn't say it out loud, she just, you know, mouthed it, 'Help me,'" Simpson said.

He said he walked outside to get help.

"I grabbed my gun and my phone, called 911. I told them what happened. I said, 'I need a police officer here now,'" Simpson said.

While on the line with 911, Pounds and Williams came outside, according to Simpson.

He said he told Pounds to stop.

Simpson said the pair got into a dark-colored Dodge Caravan we've learned was a stolen rental with Quebec tags, and Pounds sped off onto southbound I-71.”

this is so heartbreaking....

 

[YaYa_521]

With all due respect, I don't believe it is a testosterone issue. I feel it is more of an entitlement issue. "She is mine, and if I can't have her no one else can either." I don't have any research to back that up at the moment, just kind of a gut feeling. I know that my testosterone has never led to the death of anyone.

I agree with your point of it not being testosterone and more of an entitlement issue. Moreover, I think it's high time we all quit blaming it just on men. Women can be very vicious, revengeful, dangerous and hateful. Gender gets too much flack all the time (imo). It's a safe, easy way to ignore important aspects of violence that often goes unreported due to society's oft stressed rules of masculinity (e.g., men don't cry or tell or they can take that punch, scratch, etc.). There are many, many men who are in abusive relationships and they aren't the aggressors but they're (most of the time) more silenced than women vics. Where are their shelters & advocates? It's been decades now that we've focused on DV against women. Perhaps it's time to share some insight on male vics.

Having said that, in this case it was clearly an entitled man with too much hatred in his heart and greed on his mind. It's certainly something that has seeped into our culture and is destroying humanity as we knew it. Many say it's 24-hour news cycles or the easy access to news via Internet, but in my earlier years ('70s & '80s) hearing of parents killing kids and babies, children killing parents, people shooting up schools, churches, synangogues, mosques, temples, political meetings, major events, etc. weren't as common as they are now. And trust me, we would have heard Walter Kronkite (sp?) reporting the sordid details of some of the crap we hear now.

Exes killing the ex and any new love intersests seemed to be the most common domestic violence type issue then and domestic murders were even rare, compared to today. Many have said that the movie The Burning Bed was made popular simply because it forced the extremities of domestic violence in society's face. The incident focused on in the movie didn't seem as the way crime is committed now. It's vile and disgusting; overkill if you will. Even street crime seems to be more vicious given ppl kill grannies and popses over $20 or less and/or kill to jack a car! It's not just men or just women, or just young folks or adults or religion, political affilitation, race, ethnicity, sexual identification, class, etc....it's CRAZY and it has run amok. It feels like a slow devaluation of morals, values, and love that's taken ahold of people from all corners of Earth.

ALL MOO!