OH - Spencer and Monique Tepe found shot to death at home 2 children unharmed, Columbus, 30 December 2025

  • #1,521
I thought if he left the car somewhere, then he got to his destination and returned the same way. Then there should be a video of him coming.
 
  • #1,522
Yeah, the study linked disproves that race can be determined by gait, not the opposite.

"No significant interactions between race and sex were identified. Males took longer steps (regular: p < 0.001, ƞp2 = 0.288, fast: p < 0.001, ƞp2 = 0.193) and had larger peak knee flexion (regular: p = 0.007, ƞp2 = 0.081, fast: p < 0.001, ƞp2 = 0.188) and ankle plantarflexion angles (regular: p = 0.050, ƞp2 = 0.044, fast: p = 0.049, ƞp2 = 0.044). Peak ankle plantarflexion angle (regular: p = 0.012, ƞp2 = 0.071, fast: p < 0.001, ƞp2 = 0.137) and peak hip extension angle during fast walking (p = 0.007, ƞp2 = 0.083) were smaller in AA. Equivalency in gait measures between racial groups should not be assumed. Racially diverse study samples should be prioritized in the development of future research and individualized treatment protocols."

This study does provide some data to back up the video showing a male, but nothing to indicate race. The idea that race can be identified by gait is in line with phrenology. JMO

Your opine is incorrect. Facts matter. From the text that you quoted:

Peak ankle plantarflexion angle (regular: p = 0.012, ƞp2 = 0.071, fast: p < 0.001, ƞp2 = 0.137) and peak hip extension angle during fast walking (p = 0.007, ƞp2 = 0.083) were smaller in AA. Equivalency in gait measures between racial groups should not be assumed.

Further:

"In many cases, statistically significant racial differences were associated with effect sizes with medium and large strength showing that these differences hold both statistical and clinical significance...

The continued assumption that racial differences in gait mechanics do not exist causes important distinctions between patients of different racial groups to be overlooked and, as a result, limits the efficacy of the care delivered to patients belonging to racial minorities. The observation of racial differences in the current study reinforces the importance of including diverse and representative sample populations in studies to ensure that results are broadly representative and equitably beneficial across racial groups. Not only are more diverse samples necessary, but clinical consideration of a patient’s racial identity when interpreting and applying biomechanical findings may be important....

5. Conclusions Racial differences were observed in self-selected walking speed and in gait mechanics. The assumption that gait mechanics are the same between racial groups is not valid. Gait mechanics outcomes can be useful for the development of effective medical interventions, optimizing rehabilitation, and determining effective and necessary preventative care. By intentionally studying diverse participants and tracking differences between groups, we can benchmark these differences and use them in the development of future research and individualized treatment protocols."

This study is not proof that you can determine race by gait. That's not what they're testing and they have no position on that. The scientists involved in this study are not racist. They are attempting to make future biomechanical studies equitable with potential implications for therapies. They are well aware of race as a social construct, are aware of confounds, and limitations of their approach. I think they're smart, well intentioned, and I admire them.

THM: Science of racial differences is not necessarily bad, shouldn't be assumed as quickly as a knee-jerk reflex, and also shouldn't be misintepreted.
 
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  • #1,523
Maybe it's been discussed here already, but it seems interesting to me that someone would want to call 911 so early when their colleague is a no show? Only an opinion- nothing more. ;)



 
  • #1,524
While I think the BIL behavior is weird and attention seeking, I don't believe it's him. He would have to have a lot of balls to accept this many interviews and be so chatty about the case. Should he share details about the kid and the dog? Of course not. But maybe he is just overwhelmed.

I can't get over the 3rd friend dropping flowers in the ABC 6 video... similar boots... similar walk.... similar frame... anyone else noticing this?
Do you have a link to the video?
 
  • #1,525
Regarding the Gunshots Inside the Home


-OH is a suppressor friendly state. NFA tax stamp is available for ownership, use, and hunting.
An targeted killer would not likely use an NFA registered suppressor.

-It is confirmed that three (3) 9mm casings were found on the crime scene.

-Shooting with a suppressor does create a decent amount of sound, though little enough to the point most shooter don't require ear protection. I like shooting 9mm for practice because it is quieter and has less recoil (and is cheaper) than larger or rifle rounds but indoors it will still create considerable reports.





-One neighbor interviewed (I posted upthread) that he "didn't hear anything that night" but "hears gunshots all the time."

-3 consecutive shots of 9mm, even non-suppressed indoors could likely slide by in a city environment near New Years at night.
Fireworks, trucks-backfiring, dumpsters slamming and other things can be rationalized in the middle of the night. When I lived in the city I got desensitized to all that. Now in the winter I wake up to shotgun report for waterfowl hunting along the river down the street, and my wooded quasi-suburban neighborhood is dead quiet at 5 am. So that's a contextual thing,

-Kids can sleep through a lot. We don't know if they did.

-The verbiage police uses to the press often has a tolerance built in. Nothing is definitive purposefully. Sometimes an investigation proves one point otherwise. Right not they "don't believe" it is this or that. There does not "appear" to be signs of a robbery. We don't know. They do know a lot more.

-The crime scene will tell a lot about the shooting and help recreate how it went down. Forensics, blood spatter, gun shot residue, angle of entry/exit wounds, distance and location of spent casings, etc. etc. They already know most of that.
 
  • #1,526
Typically they do what's called a "forensic interview," conducted by a trained child expert. So it wouldn't be the police asking that older child questions, although they'd typically be watching from outside the room.
If the adult-in-charge agrees to questioning of the minors. When needed, Temporary Guardianship can often be established in a day or two.
 
  • #1,527
LE has not told us where the children are. They have not told us whose houses they are guarding.

This BIL is acting like he is the family spokesman but, has the family ever collectively declared he speaks for them? I would just be a bit cautious about his pronouncements all over the media, social and otherwise.
 
  • #1,528
Maybe it's been discussed here already, but it seems interesting to me that someone would want to call 911 so early when their colleague is a no show? Only an opinion- nothing more. ;)



I would assume patients were starting to arrive, so it's not just a co-worker not at their desk, but patients expecting dental care. That makes it important for the clinic to know what is happening, and to be alarmed early.

jmo
 
  • #1,529
Maybe it's been discussed here already, but it seems interesting to me that someone would want to call 911 so early when their colleague is a no show? Only an opinion- nothing more. ;)



Not merely a colleague, but a person who almost certainly was scheduled to see patients that day (office opens at 8am).

He'd never been late before, and would have called if he was going to be. His wife was also unreachable, which sent the concern skyrocketing.

This isn't Joe Shmoe being late for his job at some big business - his not being there on time was a big deal.
 
  • #1,530
Maybe it's been discussed here already, but it seems interesting to me that someone would want to call 911 so early when their colleague is a no show? Only an opinion- nothing more. ;)



It's been discussed like a million times and everyone in medicine says it's not weird
 
  • #1,531
At this time, I'd imagine that LE have cleared people close or who have any connection (as far as close friends/relatives) to them, & checked alibi's ?
It'd be nice to hear it from LE, though.

So that would leave a random attack (doubtful imo !) , a disgruntled coworker, or a hired hit by someone who felt 'wronged' in some way ?
The, 'no forced entry' statement by LE is interesting because it seems like they're hinting this was an inside job ?
Someone who knew them, however fleetingly.

May justice be swift and harsh for Spencer and Monique.
Omo.
The BIL said that Police hadn’t really spoken to him yet - maybe they’re content watching him do all the talking in public at this point for reasons only known to them
 
  • #1,532
I haven't read through all the posts since I posted screenshot, so I apologize if this has been said. He looks like he has sun glasses on, but how on earth would he see clearly, and especially in the snow? I was thinking it could be one of those masks, the soft ones that you put over your head? Just a thought about the two dark areas where the eyes are?
 
  • #1,533
Seriously! I agree/was thinking the same thing. This quote from BIL, or possibly the way in which the journalist edited his quote (?), is really unhelpful. I’m trying to figure out WHY a family member of a murder victim would react to Police’s video of a POI by saying, “It could just be a drunk person walking home from a bar.” Why? What purpose would it serve, to cast doubt like that? Why would they not reiterate to the public, something like, “Police think the person in the video had something to do with our family members’ murders, or has important information. If you recognize him, please call the Police and report what you know.”

Is it mistrust in the Police’s work? Was BIL just speaking off-the-cuff, and the journalist unfortunately worded the quote that way? Does BIL have his own strong thoughts about who the murderer is, which conflict with what he sees in the video? I have so many questions.

I’m also thinking, the Police don’t always tell the public the truth. They’re strategic about what they say or show to the public, and how much, and when, and about what they choose to hold back from the public. These are legitimate strategies, used to protect the integrity of the investigation, protect victims or survivors or family members, misdirect the suspect, or tighten the parameters of the tips the public reports. Some people might misinterpret LE’s strategic, careful releasing and withholding of information, and misdirection, as LE being “shady” and “lying” to the public… but it’s not like that. It’s a normal, necessary part of LE’s work.

A family member who’s unfamiliar with LE tactics like this would be more likely to talk with a journalist and cast doubt on what LE has released, if said family member doesn’t understand or doesn’t agree with what LE is saying. But I wouldn’t expect a family member who works in journalism himself to publicly cast doubt on what LE are saying…

….unless that family member’s comments, too, are an intentional strategy/misdirection to somehow BACK UP the Police?? Sometimes LE will give family members more information about their investigation and strategy than they give to the general public, of course, and they will enlist the family member(s) to help by saying or not saying certain things when they do media.

Am I maybe going down a rabbit hole too much? Do I watch too many crime shows? I could be way off base. I’d love to hear others’ thoughts on why in the world BIL would have gone on record to doubt/question LE’s investigation. How could that actually help?
Thr brothers in law was talking a bit too much and his previoys reddit comments on unrelated things have all been wiped from his profile.
 
  • #1,534
[Mod edit. Person is not a POI]

I can't get over the 3rd friend dropping flowers in the ABC 6 video... similar boots... similar walk.... similar frame... anyone else noticing this?
Got to look for that.
 
  • #1,535
It's been discussed like a million times and everyone in medicine says it's not weird
When you think about this logically it’s actually slightly weird - not the concern. But how fast they made it to the house to do a welfare check when they had already called police - given the distance of the work location and the home
 
  • #1,536
Regarding the Gunshots Inside the Home


-OH is a suppressor friendly state. NFA tax stamp is available for ownership, use, and hunting.
An targeted killer would not likely use an NFA registered suppressor.

-It is confirmed that three (3) 9mm casings were found on the crime scene.

-Shooting with a suppressor does create a decent amount of sound, though little enough to the point most shooter don't require ear protection. I like shooting 9mm for practice because it is quieter and has less recoil (and is cheaper) than larger or rifle rounds but indoors it will still create considerable reports.





-One neighbor interviewed (I posted upthread) that he "didn't hear anything that night" but "hears gunshots all the time."

-3 consecutive shots of 9mm, even non-suppressed indoors could likely slide by in a city environment near New Years at night.
Fireworks, trucks-backfiring, dumpsters slamming and other things can be rationalized in the middle of the night. When I lived in the city I got desensitized to all that. Now in the winter I wake up to shotgun report for waterfowl hunting along the river down the street, and my wooded quasi-suburban neighborhood is dead quiet at 5 am. So that's a contextual thing,

-Kids can sleep through a lot. We don't know if they did.

-The verbiage police uses to the press often has a tolerance built in. Nothing is definitive purposefully. Sometimes an investigation proves one point otherwise. Right not they "don't believe" it is this or that. There does not "appear" to be signs of a robbery. We don't know. They do know a lot more.

-The crime scene will tell a lot about the shooting and help recreate how it went down. Forensics, blood spatter, gun shot residue, angle of entry/exit wounds, distance and location of spent casings, etc. etc. They already know most of that.
Just out of interest as my awareness of guns is zilch apart from you shoot from them

What guns shoot 9mm bullets

And could the weird gait be attributed to carrying a gun on the hip or in a pocket ?
 
  • #1,537
Brother in law is acting bizarre from day 1, why are the police letting him talk so much? Strategic?
My thoughts exactly.
 
  • #1,538
Just out of interest as my awareness of guns is zilch apart from you shoot from them

What guns shoot 9mm bullets
Primarily semi-automatic handguns. But, there are some long guns chambered in 9mm.
 
  • #1,539
Seriously! I agree/was thinking the same thing. This quote from BIL, or possibly the way in which the journalist edited his quote (?), is really unhelpful. I’m trying to figure out WHY a family member of a murder victim would react to Police’s video of a POI by saying, “It could just be a drunk person walking home from a bar.” Why? What purpose would it serve, to cast doubt like that? Why would they not reiterate to the public, something like, “Police think the person in the video had something to do with our family members’ murders, or has important information. If you recognize him, please call the Police and report what you know.”

Is it mistrust in the Police’s work? Was BIL just speaking off-the-cuff, and the journalist unfortunately worded the quote that way? Does BIL have his own strong thoughts about who the murderer is, which conflict with what he sees in the video? I have so many questions.

I’m also thinking, the Police don’t always tell the public the truth. They’re strategic about what they say or show to the public, and how much, and when, and about what they choose to hold back from the public. These are legitimate strategies, used to protect the integrity of the investigation, protect victims or survivors or family members, misdirect the suspect, or tighten the parameters of the tips the public reports. Some people might misinterpret LE’s strategic, careful releasing and withholding of information, and misdirection, as LE being “shady” and “lying” to the public… but it’s not like that. It’s a normal, necessary part of LE’s work.

A family member who’s unfamiliar with LE tactics like this would be more likely to talk with a journalist and cast doubt on what LE has released, if said family member doesn’t understand or doesn’t agree with what LE is saying. But I wouldn’t expect a family member who works in journalism himself to publicly cast doubt on what LE are saying…

….unless that family member’s comments, too, are an intentional strategy/misdirection to somehow BACK UP the Police?? Sometimes LE will give family members more information about their investigation and strategy than they give to the general public, of course, and they will enlist the family member(s) to help by saying or not saying certain things when they do media.

Am I maybe going down a rabbit hole too much? Do I watch too many crime shows? I could be way off base. I’d love to hear others’ thoughts on why in the world BIL would have gone on record to doubt/question LE’s investigation. How could that actually help?
If it were just a drunk person walking home, the cameras will show that, there are so many around. However, if the cameras show him on the property, going in the property, we have a different story. It was 23F out that night, he couldn't have been walking far in those clothes.
 
  • #1,540
Thr brothers in law was talking a bit too much and his previoys reddit comments on unrelated things have all been wiped from his profile.
Maybe a family member had a talk with him about it and said to dial it back.
 

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