I understand that. The 911 call of that woman at the party didn’t sound like she used for medicinal purposes. I think the BIL is quoted as saying she has a little bit of a freak out. I don’t know tho.It was medically legal in Ohio before it was legalized recreationally.
Where can I find those?!I will stick up for ya. We might be from the same metro area. Homes are less expensive here, though they creeped up a lot in the last few years.
I think our local edibles are a lot stronger than what I’m hearing described by others, too. They aren’t like a couple glasses of wine.
JMO
They had a golden doodle, not sure if it was in a shut room. We don't know. Some people say golden doodles are bad alert barkers. Huskys for instance have a horrible rep, in that they don't bark and are friendly with strangers. Regardless, the dog may have barked a lot.being they had a dog that survived… I believe they new the murderer… Dogs attract strangers instinctively- especially middle of thr night. A friend walks through the door 2 am, a dog would greet them, come mom sense.
By 1 year old the baby should be sleeping through the night or only waking up maybe once. Im thinking is this partially how LE narrowed down the timeline of 2am-5am. Possibly a baby monitor captured one parent up with the baby prior to 2am.They had a golden doodle, not sure if it was in a shut room. We don't know. Some people say golden doodles are bad alert barkers. Huskys for instance have a horrible rep, in that they don't bark and are friendly with strangers. Regardless, the dog may have barked a lot.
I would think with a one year old that might get up several times a night these parents of an infant would be on baby duty mode and alert to getting up several times a night.
I think that is definitely worth pursuing.Another curiosity question… has anyone heard more detail about the relationships spencer had with the big brother/sister program? Anyone given access to home?
Yeah, all depends. I was papa bear head on a swivel mode with a 1 year old. One slept through the night but started the day at 4am like clockwork. My first woke up several times a night at 1 year of age. Spence had to be up early, Monique surely too to take care of an infant. It's not like they'd be conked out after a dinner party polishing a few bottles of wine. They had a 1 and 4 year old. I remember well how that changes you patterns.By 1 year old the baby should be sleeping through the night or only waking up maybe once. Im thinking is this partially how LE narrowed down the timeline of 2am-5am. Possibly a baby monitor captured one parent up with the baby prior to 2am.
A few months before. The call was placed on April 15 at 2:45 a.m., according to records. The woman could be heard crying throughout the call before telling police she no longer needed officers to come.Probably missed this but still catching up for the day. When was the DV 911 call from the party? (How long before the murders)
I am close to a woman who left an abusive marriage after her husband pointed a weapon at her and her child and threatened to kill both of them. Two days after she and her child moved out of their residence, I attempted to check in with her by phone. When there was no answer after 2 tries, I immediately called several numbers belonging to the owners of the home where they were staying. When nobody answered any of those calls, I became extremely concerned and left a message saying that if I did not hear from someone in 10 minutes, I would have no choice but to call 911 and ask that police go to the house (I was too far away to go myself in that moment). Under the terrifying circumstances (past DV, a restraining order, etc.), I was totally frantic at the thought that the husband could have gone there to harm his wife, the child, or the people who were sheltering them. Thankfully I did receive a call back before I had to do that--but I can certainly understand why the staff at the dental office may have called police so quickly and what they might have been thinking when they requested that welfare check. I think it's very plausible that one or more coworkers had at least some awareness of a potentially dangerous situation involving members of this family and felt just as frantic and fearful as I did when I couldn't make contact with my loved ones. This is my perspective only, of course!I thought this whole show was super informative. if there is any curiosity about how fast everyone called 911, it stands to reason that they will be questioned as to why? Not as suspects but to get more insight. Maybe there is more than just the predictable routine being off.
Also not only did one person call for a welfare check but friends came and co workers travelled,. It was a big reaction, so it’s fair to ask… why such concern? What do they know, if anything.
Yes, and they may be investigating him. You have no reason to think they’re not.Regardless of how you interpret the BIL’s comments, the glaring detail is that he doesn’t even live in the same city as them. He lives in Cincinnati, 2 hours away, per his interview tonight.
If LE were suspicious of him, they’d know pretty immediately if he left his home for ~5 hours in the middle of the night. His wife + Ring cameras in his neighborhood would attest to that.
I’m seeing a lot of comments on social media casting suspicion on him, but I’ll reserve my judgment. Again, if LE suspected him they’d be able to immediately see whether he was gone during that time period.
I agree with your whole post. The BIL is a victim and this is a victim friendly forum.Regardless of how you interpret the BIL’s comments, the glaring detail is that he doesn’t even live in the same city as them. He lives in Cincinnati, 2 hours away, per his interview tonight.
If LE were suspicious of him, they’d know pretty immediately if he left his home for ~5 hours in the middle of the night. His wife + Ring cameras in his neighborhood would attest to that.
I’m seeing a lot of comments on social media casting suspicion on him, but I’ll reserve my judgment. Again, if LE suspected him they’d be able to immediately see whether he was gone during that time period.
I agree, but you had cause for concern, ( riskiest time is when someone decides to leave) so I dont think it’s unreasonable that they question why there was such a big response here. It could be as simple as him being late with no contact” and it could be more ? They wont know until they ask, otherwise its a missed opportunity.I am close to a woman who left an abusive marriage after her husband pointed a weapon at her and her child and threatened to kill both of them. Two days after she and her child moved out of their residence, I attempted to check in with her by phone. When there was no answer after 2 tries, I immediately called several numbers belonging to the owners of the home where they were staying. When nobody answered any of those calls, I became extremely concerned and left a message saying that if I did not hear from someone in 10 minutes, I would have no choice but to call 911 and ask that police go to the house (I was too far away to go myself in that moment). Under the terrifying circumstances (past DV, a restraining order, etc.), I was totally frantic at the thought that the husband could have gone there to harm his wife, the child, or the people who were sheltering them. Thankfully I did receive a call back before I had to do that--but I can certainly understand why the staff at the dental office called police so quickly and what they might have been thinking when they requested that welfare check. I think it's very plausible that one or more coworkers had at least some awareness of a potentially dangerous situation involving members of this family and felt just as frantic and fearful as I did when I couldn't make contact with my loved ones. This is my perspective only, of course!
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Since it was not a crime of passion the possible perp might choose to wear comfortable well-worn clothes for a task like a double murder in the likely event they get soiled so as to then discreetly discard them without losing any wardrobe items that might be noticed as missing by others.
It looks to me like ripped front jeans with dark sweat pants or some kind of base layer underneath the jeans.
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We don't, but to me this looks like a calculated hit. ETA: I don't mean some hired thing.We don't know if it was or wasn't a crime of passion at this point.
911 call reported domestic dispute at home of Ohio dentist, wife, months before they were found dead: report
This is from NY Post. <Admin note: NY Post is allowed and members can decide for themselves if they wish to rely on the content.>
911 can track the phone numberStrange that they would continue hosting late night parties at home with 2 small kids. The 911 call was past midnight I think.
Could there have been some animosity between Spencer and his wife regarding a family member? Maybe someone on her side of the family? Has someone not paid back a loan, or done something inappropriate that he’s not happy about?That adds a new layer of information.