GUILTY OH - Steubenville Rape Case, 11 Aug 2012 #1

[hollyjokers]

Our school is the same way. If a student-athlete is caught at a party where drugs/alcohol are consumed, whether they are drinking or not, supposedly will be suspended from athletic activity for season or year, I forget which. A few years back some cheerleaders went to a competition out of state. Some of them took topless pics of each other in a hot tub, holding beers, & these got circulated via email (facebook was still college-only at the time). When the pics made their way to the school, they were stripped of EVERYTHING: NHS, cheerleading, any elected positions & athletics. The one girl transferred to a neighboring school b/c her family felt punishment was too severe, and she went on to pretty good success on the track team & graduated with honors.
I do think the Coach B should be held somewhat accountable. I don't know his age, but surely he would know better than to turn intoxicated teenage drivers out on the streets. Parents or cops should have been contacted. But that's a cover your own a-- move, not a Big Red coverup. The kids at that party were from at least 5 different schools. I am also not sure whether he was a paid assistant or volunteer coach. If he is only a volunteer, SCS may have been limited in what sort of reprimand could be given. I thought he was relieved of his coaching duties, but not positive.

 

[erik28]

I thought he was relieved of his coaching duties, but not positive.

If this is the case, I haven't come across it in a news report, although sports teams and school districts take many actions that are not reported by news outlets.

If local families feel there hasn't been enough action/reaction from the school district regarding the underage drinking discovered by the volunteer highschool football coach, I hope that they take these issues up with the school board and other local outlets. This is a serious issue that benefits (rather than blames) the town if addressed. Parents potentially have so much sway in small school districts, especially if they are willing to sit on policy committees. I think a change (if needed) can be made here that improves the future for Steubenville students.

 

[Steely Dan]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/...le-rape-case-petition-20130124,0,862046.story

Steubenville rape case: Online petition, 70,000 strong, seeks justice


By Michael Muskal
January 24, 2013, 10:43 a.m.

A petition was presented Thursday to the Ohio attorney general’s office, calling for a continuing investigation of the Steubenville rape case that shocked the nation.

The online petition, with 70,000 signatures, calls on Atty. Gen. Mike DeWine’s office to continue investigating the incident to ensure all of the people who were involved, either directly or as onlookers, are prosecuted, Kate Londen, communications manager for Choice USA, told the Los Angeles Times....

 

[Steely Dan]

http://current.com/groups/news-blog...al-charges-for-the-steubenville-rape-crew.htm

No additional charges for the Steubenville 'rape crew'
By Stephanie Whiteside / current.com / @stephgwhiteside

There's still a month to go before the delayed trial of two members of the Steubenville, Ohio, "rape crew," and Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine says that there isn't enough evidence to try other members of the group.

The Steubenville rape case made headlines in December after The New York Times wrote a story about the case, which centers around the rape of an unconscious teenage girl at a party. Photos of the girl were posted on Instagram, and tweets referenced rape. Because she was drunk and unconscious, the alleged victim did not know she had been assaulted until she found posts on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube the next day....

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://current.com/groups/news-blog...al-charges-for-the-steubenville-rape-crew.htm

No additional charges for the Steubenville 'rape crew'
By Stephanie Whiteside / current.com / @stephgwhiteside

There's still a month to go before the delayed trial of two members of the Steubenville, Ohio, "rape crew," and Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine says that there isn't enough evidence to try other members of the group.

The Steubenville rape case made headlines in December after The New York Times wrote a story about the case, which centers around the rape of an unconscious teenage girl at a party. Photos of the girl were posted on Instagram, and tweets referenced rape. Because she was drunk and unconscious, the alleged victim did not know she had been assaulted until she found posts on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube the next day....

:thud:

 

[believe09]

I think they are going to convict these two-I suppose if I were their families and I were in their shoes, I might be tempted to start making deals and helping LE bring a few more of their fellow partiers to justice. JMVHO

 

[believe09]

I would like to point out a subtle change in the media coverage:

which centers around the rape of an unconscious teenage girl at a party. Photos of the girl were posted on Instagram, and tweets referenced rape. Because she was drunk and unconscious, the alleged victim did not know she had been assaulted until she found posts on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube the next day....

Therefore, according to the law, she could not consent.

Case closed.

 

[erik28]

http://www.hsconnect.com/page/content.detail/id/583474/Awareness-training-has-begun.html?nav=5010

The Steubenville Herald Star reports that the Steubenville School districts have instituted a specific sexual assault awareness plan related to the alleged assault in August, 2012. From the article:

The city school district has conducted an educational session for middle school and high school parents regarding an alleged 2012 rape and has scheduled sessions for teachers and staff workers next month.

"At our first session we had a very good discussion and good questions from our parents. We talked about how to discuss the incident with our school children," said Superintendent Mike McVey following the monthly board of education meeting Wednesday night.

The school board authorized a $5,000 agreement with the Cleveland Rape Crisis Center to provide two educational sessions for parents regarding sexual violence and how to communicate with their children.

According to the district's action plan, a March 27 training for all staff "is for some or all areas of sexual harassment, bullying, date rape, substance abuse and social media. The results are to educate the staff as to how to provide a culture to prevent future tragedies."

Also of note from the article, which is a report on school board activities: the resignation of Steubenville High School Athletic Director and teacher Fred Heatherington for retirement, effective May 31, 2013 was accepted.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Is part of the education letting parents know NOT to report incidents to the Steubenville Sheriff.. I.e. Sheriff Fred Abdalla?

:waitasec:

 

[erik28]

From the Herald Star,

"STEUBENVILLE - At least 40 witnesses could testify at the upcoming trial of two high school football players charged with raping a 16-year-old girl in eastern Ohio last year, and the case will likely last three or more days and stretch into a weekend, a court official said today.

The trial is open to the public and TV coverage is being permitted, but witnesses will have the option to decline to be photographed or recorded, said Fred Abdalla Jr., chief probation officer for Jefferson County Juvenile Court.
- See more at: http://www.heraldstaronline.com/page/content.detail/id/583704/Some-40-witnesses-expected-at-Steubenville-rape-trial.html?nav=5010#sthash.f4DxQOc3.dpuf"

 

[human]

re the drinking.

When I was in college 40 years ago at a huge university, I attended frat parties and other parties where we got puking drunk.

Never once did some guy try to assault any of us.

Things have changed. Why is sexual assault seemingly acceptable nowadays for some people? That is the message I am getting from this.

Kids have drank to excess forever. I do not agree with it and wish it would stop.

I am concerned that the adults in this case saw these drunk kids and did NOTHING.

For adults to act that way is revolting

 

[believe09]

re the drinking.

When I was in college 40 years ago at a huge university, I attended frat parties and other parties where we got puking drunk.

Never once did some guy try to assault any of us.

Things have changed. Why is sexual assault seemingly acceptable nowadays for some people? That is the message I am getting from this.

Kids have drank to excess forever. I do not agree with it and wish it would stop.

I am concerned that the adults in this case saw these drunk kids and did NOTHING.

For adults to act that way is revolting

This is why I hope the victim and her family sue after the criminal trial has concluded.

 

[movielover]

Your recollection that you could go to a frat party and could get puking drunk, and nothing would happen, reminds me of my college days. **Most of the time** nothing happened. And this is high school - big difference.

Four changes.

1. Parents are more permissive. Many want to be their kids friends. They seem afraid to say "no" to a sleepover, which is often a lie.

2. The iPhone and Internet: HS kids are now watching full-blown , sometimes in school! So that lowers the behavior that they think is acceptable.

3. Rap music has degraded what is acceptable, and glorifies thuggery as "cool".

4. Gang and gang-like bahavior has exploded.

 

[erik28]

West Va. judge denies request for teen witnesses to testify at Steubenville rape trial
Rachel Dissell, The Plain Dealer By Rachel Dissell, The Plain Dealer
on March 08, 2013 at 9:54 PM, updated March 08, 2013 at 10:15 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/03/west_va_judge_denies_request_f.html

"A West Virginia judge has denied a defense attorney's request that three juvenile witnesses be transported by their parents across the Ohio River to testify next week during a rape trial involving two Steubenville football player, according to a ruling obtained by the Associated Press.

Attorney Walter Madison considered two of the witnesses, longtime friends of the victim, to be key to his 16-year-old client's defense.

The other subpoena was for the 16-year-old Weirton, West Va. girl whose parents first reported she was raped in mid-August after she attended a high school party where area students were drinking.

It is unclear whether prosecutors planned to have the victim testify..."

There are more details to the story at the link.

 

[erik28]

http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/03/11/steubenville-attorneys-seek-dismissal-of-case.html

"AP: Attorneys Seek Dismissal Of Steubenville Rape Case
Monday March 11, 2013 6:58 PM
UPDATED: Monday March 11, 2013 6:59 PM

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio - Attorneys for a high school football player facing rape accusations in Ohio are asking a judge to dismiss the case against him because they say the "unavailability of material witnesses" denies him his right to a fair trial.

A West Virginia judge last week rejected requests three juveniles be called to testify at the eastern Ohio trial of two high school football players charged with raping a 16-year-old girl. The girl is from West Virginia

The juveniles' testimony was expected to bolster the players' defense against the charges.

Attorneys representing defendant Trent Mays on Monday filed a motion to dismiss, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

The two players go on trial Wednesday in Jefferson County juvenile court in Steubenville. Their attorneys have denied the charges."

 

[believe09]

I am confused. The defense wants the victim to testify for the defense? I see. So if the prosecutors dont ask her to testify, the defense wants to be sure and get their shots in anyway? What can she testify to?
Lovely. I hope the defense attorney has a teen girl in his life who he sees everyday. I am a big believer in a vigorous defense. But we know perfectly well that the defense attorney wants to deflect from the fact that she couldnt consent legally by showing she is a risk taker.

 

[Levi]

Tonight at 10 PM ET, Defense Attorney Holly Hughes and Crime Analyst Sheryl McCollum discuss the Steubenville, OH "Big Red" Rape case. Here is the link to listen: http://t.co/3TZWAhAIrD

 

[LinTX]

I suspect someone got their wires crossed in that article...no way a victim pressing charges can be subpoenaed by the defense. She is the state's witness and is testifying, supposedly.

In other recent 'news', one of the lesser media people that have commented on this case was just now given some docs that describe info furnished by the family at the hospital, including the mention by them of a 2nd video. He has posted a couple pages of the docs with names redacted. This video is described as including the victim that night being urinated on and kicked while in the street. Several people on twitter are saying that some unknown was shopping this video to Anons for $5000 in the early days of the case - they attempted to locate it, but the seller was never ID'd and the video was not online. This doc also mentions that the victim originally named CK as one of the parties and that she did suspect having been drugged.

 

[kdblaisdell]

Okay, trying to get this link to activate is giving me fits, so you may have to copy and paste. It's a very short article.

http://www.whas11.com/news/national/197214911.html

AP: Attorneys seek dismissal of Ohio rape case

"Attorneys representing defendant Trent Mays on Monday filed a motion to dismiss, which was obtained by The Associated Press."

 

[Steely Dan]

I believe that TOS doesn't allow me to post comments from other sites, but read the comment on this video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVkZ...8t6jiANmZa9KcE8eA&feature=em-comment_received