Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

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  • #661
She was found in my hometown. I was 2 in 1981 and only heard of this case recently. So sad and I hope she is given her name back soon.
 
  • #662
You know, I went back and re-read her stats on Doe Network (they just revised her posting).....from her body description AND the scars listed, to me, it seems like she was a gymnast. Think about it; wear on tear on the wrists; the ankles; etc. Just my 2 cents....
 
  • #663
You know, I went back and re-read her stats on Doe Network (they just revised her posting).....from her body description AND the scars listed, to me, it seems like she was a gymnast. Think about it; wear on tear on the wrists; the ankles; etc. Just my 2 cents....

Well that might explain the BRAIDS! Interesting....
 
  • #664
You know, I went back and re-read her stats on Doe Network (they just revised her posting).....from her body description AND the scars listed, to me, it seems like she was a gymnast. Think about it; wear on tear on the wrists; the ankles; etc. Just my 2 cents....

Might be the reason B.Doe was not wearing jewellery, had hair in braids and even, not wearing shoes, imo.
 
  • #665
I have a question. I've been haunted by the pictures of Buckskin Girl since I first saw them. She looks identical to a friend I had when I lived about 20 miles from Troy. I had only known her a short time and this was during the fall of 1974. She was 16 at the time and had been moved from foster home to foster home. She met a boy and married him two weeks later and no one heard from her or him again. At the time neither had a job and I have no idea where they went or if she's still alive. She was beautiful, 5'5, 130 lb., chestnut hair, brown eyes, freckles and perfect teeth. She and I wore our hair in braids all the time. Should I try to contact them when as far as I know she hasn't been reported missing?
 
  • #666
Your description sure fits. Did she go to high school? Perhaps there is a photo of her in a yearbook somewhere.
 
  • #667
I have a question. I've been haunted by the pictures of Buckskin Girl since I first saw them. She looks identical to a friend I had when I lived about 20 miles from Troy. I had only known her a short time and this was during the fall of 1974. She was 16 at the time and had been moved from foster home to foster home. She met a boy and married him two weeks later and no one heard from her or him again. At the time neither had a job and I have no idea where they went or if she's still alive. She was beautiful, 5'5, 130 lb., chestnut hair, brown eyes, freckles and perfect teeth. She and I wore our hair in braids all the time. Should I try to contact them when as far as I know she hasn't been reported missing?

There are posters on here who are amazing at finding people in year books etc. If you know her full name, and would be willing to PM it to somebody on here, I'm certain that they would be willing to help.
 
  • #668
There are posters on here who are amazing at finding people in year books etc. If you know her full name, and would be willing to PM it to somebody on here, I'm certain that they would be willing to help.

Who? I know her first and last maiden name, her husband's first and last name and year she attended our high school.
 
  • #669
CarlK90245 is the resident yearbook sleuth. Send her information to him and if she's in a yearbook, he'll find her!
 
  • #670
I have a question. I've been haunted by the pictures of Buckskin Girl since I first saw them. She looks identical to a friend I had when I lived about 20 miles from Troy. I had only known her a short time and this was during the fall of 1974. She was 16 at the time and had been moved from foster home to foster home. She met a boy and married him two weeks later and no one heard from her or him again. At the time neither had a job and I have no idea where they went or if she's still alive. She was beautiful, 5'5, 130 lb., chestnut hair, brown eyes, freckles and perfect teeth. She and I wore our hair in braids all the time. Should I try to contact them when as far as I know she hasn't been reported missing?

Classmates doesn't have the yearbook for the year that she attended.

But I found her marriage record from 30-Dec-1974.

And I think I found a current record on her in Peoplefinders. A woman with the same first name and middle initial, and the surname of her 1974 husband, and a DOB in 1957 (Same year as Tillicum's friend) lives in Springfield Ohio (where Tillicum last saw her friend). There are two other names of people in their 30's (probably her children) also associated with that name.

That isn't a positive rule-out. But it looks to me to be the same person, and if so, Tillicum's friend would not be BG.
 
  • #671
I'm relieved to know she's probably still alive but saddened that we're no closer to identifying BG.

Something else I thought of, I wear slip-ons in the house and keep my barn shoes and boots in the mudroom. When I'm going out to the barn the last thing I do is slip on my boots when opening the door. The first thing I do when coming in the house is slide off my boots. Could she have been intercepted at one of those points? I also have several scars on my wrists and arms from repairing barbed wire fencing. If someone was planning a robbery there'a also the regular routine of feeding and watering at the same time every day.
 
  • #672
I am wondering if she could have been associated with The Rainbow Family?
Her attire could possibly fit in to that lifestyle back in the day, perhaps?
IMOO.
 
  • #673
Wearing vintage clothing from previous decades was also popular in 1981. BG could have bought the jacket at a vintage clothing shop-they were everywhere. The prices were cheaper or about the same as new "modern" clothing. Many young women found the vintage items appealing, since they were "one of a kind".
 
  • #674
I'm relieved to know she's probably still alive but saddened that we're no closer to identifying BG.

I have reported Wendy S. Byron as a possible match to the authorities in both California and in Ohio. The investigation continues but the promising thing to me is that Wendy's Name has still not been added to the exclusions list.

I wish there were a way to hurry things along.
 
  • #675
I have reported Wendy S. Byron as a possible match to the authorities in both California and in Ohio. The investigation continues but the promising thing to me is that Wendy's Name has still not been added to the exclusions list.

I wish there were a way to hurry things along.


Wendy Byron does look like a good match. I think she was mentioned before. I am sure CarlK would know.
 
  • #676
Yes, she's been brought up before. I'm sure she's been submitted numerous times. But idk if she's ever been ruled out using scientific means.
 
  • #677
Yes, she's been brought up before. I'm sure she's been submitted numerous times. But idk if she's ever been ruled out using scientific means.

One of the clues that I find most promising about Wendy Byron is that (according to this article) she announced her intentions to come to Ohio from California - to change her identity.

"Robert Byron's sister said he told the family that Wendy Byron had moved to Ohio and changed her identity. Byron also said he spoke with his wife years after her disappearance, but nobody from the family had ever spoken with her."

Link: http://abclocal.go.com/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9113080
 
  • #678
One of the clues that I find most promising about Wendy Byron is that (according to this article) she announced her intentions to come to Ohio from California - to change her identity.

"Robert Byron's sister said he told the family that Wendy Byron had moved to Ohio and changed her identity. Byron also said he spoke with his wife years after her disappearance, but nobody from the family had ever spoken with her."

Link: http://abclocal.go.com/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9113080

You could be on to something, and anything is possible. Let me tell you why I doubt this is our Buckskin girl, and state upfront that none of my assumptions have any science behind them. First, based on the explanation Wendy Byron's husband gave of her disappearance....well...highly suspect, at best. The story of him speaking to her years later and whatnot just isn't believable. Again, anything is possible, and I am just stating opinion and speculation only.

Second, that would have made "Buckskin Girl" 27 at the time of death. She looked much younger, much.
Finally, I don't see anything about this gal's appearance that says "California". I'm a Cal-gal myself, and she doesn't have any of the trademark looks of a Cal-gal. But of course, looks can be deceiving.

All this being said, it's certainly worth a rule out.
 
  • #679
You could be on to something, and anything is possible. Let me tell you why I doubt this is our Buckskin girl, and state upfront that none of my assumptions have any science behind them. First, based on the explanation Wendy Byron's husband gave of her disappearance....well...highly suspect, at best. The story of him speaking to her years later and whatnot just isn't believable. Again, anything is possible, and I am just stating opinion and speculation only.

Second, that would have made "Buckskin Girl" 27 at the time of death. She looked much younger, much.
Finally, I don't see anything about this gal's appearance that says "California". I'm a Cal-gal myself, and she doesn't have any of the trademark looks of a Cal-gal. But of course, looks can be deceiving.

All this being said, it's certainly worth a rule out.

I can appreciate your input and even some of your skepticism but I submitted over a year ago and still she has not been excluded. Wendy's name has not been added to the exclusions list - despite the availability of DNA in both cases. Of course, my hopes are high that it's a match and that both cases can finally move on to finding the murderer. However, if the DNA is not a match, I will accept those results and keep searching. Did you see my post about the dental records, yet? I thought that was pretty telling too.

"If you'll note - in Wendy's photo, she has a seriously chipped front tooth. And according to various sources, our UID (found three nearly years later) has a crown on tooth #8 (see attached). That's the same tooth shown chipped in Wendy's photograph."

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-15-25-Apr-81-*GRAPHIC*&p=9846794#post9846794
 
  • #680
I can appreciate your input and even some of your skepticism but I submitted over a year ago and still she has not been excluded. Wendy's name has not been added to the exclusions list - despite the availability of DNA in both cases. Of course, my hopes are high that it's a match and that both cases can finally move on to finding the murderer. However, if the DNA is not a match, I will accept those results and keep searching. Did you see my post about the dental records, yet? I thought that was pretty telling too.

"If you'll note - in Wendy's photo, she has a seriously chipped front tooth. And according to various sources, our UID (found three nearly years later) has a crown on tooth #8 (see attached). That's the same tooth shown chipped in Wendy's photograph."

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-15-25-Apr-81-*GRAPHIC*&p=9846794#post9846794

I did not see the post on the dental records and will go upthread to reference that. You could very well be on to something, and I certainly hope you are!
 
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