Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

[Rgonzalez]

So what happened?!!

 

[Triss]

Lucie was supposed to go to Vancouver with her friend. I wonder if her friend was reported missing? Maybe they decided to run away together instead of going to Vancouver? There's so little information about her disappearance arghhhh

 

[Sami89022001]

yeah, totally agree bur I still need police help xx

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Lucy appears to have a mole on her upper chest. Did BG have said mole?

 

[Sami89022001]

hi, her friend is missing too. a possible John doe. I'm looking into it also.
unfortunately morg photos don't show bg chest to see if she had a mole.
but I don't know if in looking into it too much but I can see a scar under her lip?
left side looking at pic... her right side
x

 

[SpanishMossAntiques]

You definitely need to submit Lucie! It's probably going to take a ton of patience and persistence on your part, but don't forget that we're all here to help if need be - just ask! BTW, good work on this; I'm excited to see what's been found about Lucie... :discuss:

Or I guess you can call here in Troy Ohio....If anyone recognizes or has any information in regards to Jane Doe’s identity, they are asked to call Detective Steve Hickey with the Miami County Sheriff’s Office at (937) 440-3965, Ext. 6629, or the Miami County Communication Center at (937) 440-9911.

http://www.tdn-net.com/news/12204/buckskin-girl-not-from-ohio-2

 

[Alleykins]

The good news is that they both have DNA available, which is rare for a Canadian mp, I've found. Canada will only take a DNA sample if there is a possibility of a match to a set of remains, last I'd heard.

 

[Sami89022001]

if both there dna is available wouldn't it automatically be run
for example I'm in the UK, my country is England but Scotland is a different country but the dna system and policing systems are all linked together?

 

[Alleykins]

if both there dna is available wouldn't it automatically be run
for example I'm in the UK, my country is England but Scotland is a different country but the dna system and policing systems are all linked together?

Our systems are not linked with Canada, last I knew. They treat their missing persons and unidentified remains cases a lot differently than we do. So, whether or not they were already compared would depend on who holds both DNA profiles.

 

[Paisley_in_Ottawa]

Sure - I could call them and see at least if they have someone working on MP cases. That would be a good start. I'll also catch up on the rest of this thread going forward. Give me until mid morning - I'll warm up my French in the meantime : )

 

[Alleykins]

Sure - I could call them and see at least if they have someone working on MP cases. That would be a good start. I'll also catch up on the rest of this thread going forward. Give me until mid morning - I'll warm up my French in the meantime : )

Thank you. No rush. I've just found it difficult to get investigators on both sides of the border to coordinate. It seems sometimes that the tips get brushed off as not probable just because it's over one side of the border or other, as if it's not possible for a Canadian missing person to be found here, and vice versa.
I have family who live in a border town in my state, and they go to Canada all the time to go out to eat and see movies. It also used to be easier to go back and forth before passports were required. I hate to see cases ruled out because where they were found doesn't pass investigators smell test.

 

[Paisley_in_Ottawa]

I'm just doing a little preparation before cold-calling the Trois-Rivieres police. I see on NAMPN that Lucie had a scar on her abdomen from liver surgery. All descriptions I find of BG have several scars mentioned, but not this one. As a plus, though, Doe Network's description of BG has "a light brown raised nevus (mole) below and slightly to the medial aspect of the right breast" as someone mentioned a mole in the thread above on Lucie:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/gelinas_lucie.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

I see the NAMPN contact, but I realize someone else did on the thread. Please let me know if someone else is calling them - I don't want to be a second person calling.

Sécurité Publique de Trois-Rivières
1-819-370-6700

Thanks : )

 

[Sami89022001]

I'm currently speaking to a namus organiser who is in contact with the Detective dealing with the case.
Im awaiting a call from him at the moment
I'm so glad that it's being treated.
I thought it would of taken longer

 

[Alleykins]

I'm currently speaking to a namus organiser who is in contact with the Detective dealing with the case.
Im awaiting a call from him at the moment
I'm so glad that it's being treated.
I thought it would of taken longer

Glad to hear it's moving along

 

[Sami89022001]

I'm just doing a little preparation before cold-calling the Trois-Rivieres police. I see on NAMPN that Lucie had a scar on her abdomen from liver surgery. All descriptions I find of BG have several scars mentioned, but not this one. As a plus, though, Doe Network's description of BG has "a light brown raised nevus (mole) below and slightly to the medial aspect of the right breast" as someone mentioned a mole in the thread above on Lucie:

http://www.nampn.org/cases/gelinas_lucie.html

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

I see the NAMPN contact, but I realize someone else did on the thread. Please let me know if someone else is calling them - I don't want to be a second person calling.

Sécurité Publique de Trois-Rivières
1-819-370-6700

Thanks : )

yes she does have a raised mole in her picture. if you do speak to the Detective before myself.
can you inform him that samantha o'shea (myself) has spoken to Dr Elizabeth Murray who has more details off myself about the cases and how I came up with this lead
Thank you so much for your help and supporting my findings.

 

[Paisley_in_Ottawa]

Sounds like this is rolling along and may not need me to assist : )

Just to clarify - is it the Detective in Trois-Rivieres (on Lucie's case) that you are talking about, or is the Namus coordinator in contact with the Detective on BG's case in Ohio ? And is Dr Murray with Namus or with the LE's team in Ohio ?

 

[Sami89022001]

Sounds like this is rolling along and may not need me to assist : )

Just to clarify - is it the Detective in Trois-Rivieres (on Lucie's case) that you are talking about, or is the Namus coordinator in contact with the Detective on BG's case in Ohio ? And is Dr Murray with Namus or with the LE's team in Ohio ?

it really is plodding along. the suspended is absolutely killing me lol.
I've been speaking to the the namus coordinator who is in contact with the Detective dealing with bg case.
the trois-riviere is soon hard for me to contact at the moment

 

[Dionysia]

Lucie went missing with Guy Carignan:
https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2014003890&id=15

 

[Sami89022001]

yeah I'm currently working on guy carignans case too.
I figured that possibly he killed her or he is dead too

 

[kat913]

Lucie went missing with Guy Carignan:
https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2014003890&id=15

If he wan't reported missing untill May 28, 1980 then perhaps he had stayed in contact with his family and she might not have....puts them closer to that 1981 date she was found.