Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

[Treelights]

Huh. I don't remember reading about the purple satin lining of the poncho before. They really stressed that it was handmade, too. Interesting.

I remember that people made their clothes back then, more so than now, so I don't think it was uncommon, but maybe making this particular buckskin poncho was more uncommon than sewing a jacket, or another article of clothing that was handmade like a top, dress, skirt, pants, etc.

 

[Lostindetroit]

Man, it is nice to see Carl getting a little love from Namus and LE. You do a lot for these cases and this forum man, and everyone appreciates it a lot. I also think the reconstruction they call "Amateur" is better than half the official ones I see. I'm sure you guys would agree.

Back to "Buckskin Girl" What blows my mind is how distinct that nose is. I am so surprised that it does not just jump out at someone who would remember this girl. With that real profound lean it has on her face it is just such a different feature. I really think it is just a matter of getting a picture around to more people of this girl. She has such a distinct look, I am convinced someone will recognize her.

 

[Treelights]

http://newyorkstatemissingpersons.n...rowitz-valley-stream-new-york-november-1-1980
There's a photo of Merryl here. I was wondering if it could be her? Merryl could have lost weight from the time period of November 1980 to April 1981.

 

[tatertot]

There is a 30-pound weight range given for Merryl; maybe her family was unsure how much weight she'd lost since giving birth. A 25-to-35-pound weight gain is average for pregnancy. Per NamUs, her photo was taken in 1979 and I assume that's her infant son cropped out of the photo, so she may well have lost weight since that photo and continued to lose weight if she was on the road for six months.

Merryl is wearing an elongated ring in her photo that could well be turquoise Native American jewelry, though it could also be a mood ring or something unrelated.

 

[DrDMike]

She looks Jewish to me.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Anyone up for contacting this lady? I kicked this idea around for some time.

http://www.buckskinclothier.com/

She's from Ohio, but don't get excited about that because she didn't start making buckskin items until she moved out West. Still, she has a degree in fashion and has been doing buckskin for years, so I wondered if she would be able to shed any light on the jacket (if the techniques used or style reminded her of a particular maker or area, etc., the level of craftsmanship of the maker, etc.)

 

[Redwood146]

http://newyorkstatemissingpersons.n...rowitz-valley-stream-new-york-november-1-1980
There's a photo of Merryl here. I was wondering if it could be her? Merryl could have lost weight from the time period of November 1980 to April 1981.

I noticed too that Merryl seems to a hair tie/band around her wrist, which to me suggests she put her hair into a pony tail. Also Merryl's hair appears to be on the thick side, which matches the thick/ almost rope like looking braids in my opinion.

In the missingpersons report her son was just a infant when she left.... he now would be over 30 years of age.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

I don't see a resemblance between Merryl and BG. I also thought I read that BG had not given birth, right?

 

[Roselvr]

NamUs Case # 4790 has had changes made.

The following fields have been changed: Exclusion added

92 Exclusions

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Ellen Akers 1966 Florida
Tammy Akers 1962 Virginia
Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Donna Barnhill 1967 North Carolina
Ingrid Bauer 1958 Ohio
Kristy Booth 1960 Texas
Joyce Brewer 1955 Texas
Darcy Brown 1943 Ohio
Sandra Butler 1962 Nevada
Peggy Byars-Baisden 1941 Florida
Diane Chorba 1949 Michigan
ANNA CIACCIO 1949 Nebraska
Darlene Conklin 1959 New York
Mary Cook Spencer 1954 Maryland
Carla Corley 1965 Alabama
Joanne Coughlin 1953 Ohio
Donella Coultas 1950 California
Melinda Creech 1965 Indiana
Susan DeQuina 1957 Massachusetts
Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Rebecca Dunn 1958 Nevada
Diane Dye 1965 California
Christine Eastin 1952 California
Carol Edwards 1955 Washington
Beverly England 1947 Colorado
Rachael Garden 1964 New Hampshire
Cherry Greenman 1956 Washington
Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington
Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California
Gina Hall 1962 Virginia
Susan Hallowell Florida
Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin
Kathleen Henson 1948 Oklahoma
Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey
Margaret Holst 1958 Nebraska
Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
Rita Jolly 1955 Oregon
Tina Kemp 1964 Delaware
Kimberly King 1966 Michigan
Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts
Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
Carol Lubahn 1954 California
Tammy Mahoney 1961 New York
Anne Manchester 1954 Delaware
Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona
Deborah McCall 1963 Illinois
Angela Meeker 1965 Washington
Deborah Meyer 1958 Wyoming
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York
Linda Nickell 1955 Michigan
Nancy O'Sullivan 1959 Illinois
Judith ODonnell 1961 New York
Mary Opitz 1963 Florida
Patricia Otto 1952 Idaho
Sheila Pierce 1954 West Virginia
Linda Pleva 1949 Oregon
Sharon Pretorius 1960 Ohio
Dean Pyle Peters 1966 Michigan
Laureen Rahn 1966 New Hampshire
Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
Lonene Rogers 1951 Pennsylvania
Alma Root 1965 California
Alma Root 1965 California
Nancy Rose 1950 Idaho
Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
Lucinda Schaefer 1962 California
Gayla Schaper 1951 Idaho
Cheryl Scherer 1959 Missouri
Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin
Beverly Sharpman 1930 Pennsylvania
Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas
Catherine Sjoberg 1957 Wisconsin
Mary Cook Spencer 1954 Maryland
Debra Spickler 1955 Connecticut
Mary Sprague 1960 Florida
Kimberly Stewart 1956 California
Mary Trlica 1957 Texas
Virginia Uden 1947 Wyoming
Belinda VanLith 1957 Minnesota
Floradean Walker 1925 Texas
Christina White 1967 Washington
Christina White 1967 Washington
Kathy Wilcox 1956 Michigan
Debra Wilhite 1955 Indiana
Cynthia Woolard 1957 Florida
April Zane 1960 Illinois
Karen Zendrosky 1963 New Jersey

 

[dogmaticsusie]

Hi all -

133UFOH/Buckskin Girl has been my "pet case" for a long, long time - I used to be a member of the DoeNetwork and was the Ohio area director for about a year (but I went back to school, moved a couple times, got married, bought a house, had a baby, so all of those things kept me from volunteering as much as is required). I've always called her "June" for some reason - that just seems like a name that fits her.

I haven't read every single post here word for word, so this may be redundant. But during my time as Ohio AD, I learned the following things about her case from Det. Steve Lord:

-Her "freckled, ruddy complexion" may have actually been petechiae, or tiny broken blood vessels, as a result of blood settling (as she was found face down, which could also account for her crooked nose).

-Her braided hairstyle had been undone during the autopsy (somewhat visible in the side post-mortem photograph) and rebraided later, so it may not be exactly how she wore it in life.

-Her face looks fuller in the frontal post-mortem photo because her head was propped up on a block to get a better angle for the picture.

Other than that, I just wanted to let everyone know that I submitted Nancy Kirkpatrick (http://doenetwork.org/cases/2452dfmt.html) for review to the DoeNetwork, although I'm having second thoughts after seeing the profile PM photo for the first time since 2006-ish.

-Mia

 

[dogmaticsusie]

Oh, and Det. Lord and I had discussed the possibility of Buckskin Girl being someone who had recently "aged out" of the foster system and therefore had no real contact with family members.

 

[Roselvr]

Hi all -

133UFOH/Buckskin Girl has been my "pet case" for a long, long time - I used to be a member of the DoeNetwork and was the Ohio area director for about a year (but I went back to school, moved a couple times, got married, bought a house, had a baby, so all of those things kept me from volunteering as much as is required). I've always called her "June" for some reason - that just seems like a name that fits her.

I haven't read every single post here word for word, so this may be redundant. But during my time as Ohio AD, I learned the following things about her case from Det. Steve Lord:

-Her "freckled, ruddy complexion" may have actually been petechiae, or tiny broken blood vessels, as a result of blood settling (as she was found face down, which could also account for her crooked nose).

-Her braided hairstyle had been undone during the autopsy (somewhat visible in the side post-mortem photograph) and rebraided later, so it may not be exactly how she wore it in life.

-Her face looks fuller in the frontal post-mortem photo because her head was propped up on a block to get a better angle for the picture.

Other than that, I just wanted to let everyone know that I submitted Nancy Kirkpatrick (http://doenetwork.org/cases/2452dfmt.html) for review to the DoeNetwork, although I'm having second thoughts after seeing the profile PM photo for the first time since 2006-ish.

-Mia

Welcome to WS!

"Buckskin girl" - NamUs - full STRs and mtDNA at national CODIS
Nancy - DNA: in CODIS - NamUs doesn't list what type of DNA

 

[dotr]

Welcome to Ws dogmaticsusie and thanks for the insight!

 

[Roselvr]

NamUs Case # 4790 has had changes made. You can view the case by clicking the url below

The following fields have been changed:
Exclusion added

Exclusions (93)
Exclusions
The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
Ellen Akers 1966 Florida
Tammy Akers 1962 Virginia
Katherine Anderson 1954 Maryland
Maria Anjiras 1961 Connecticut
Lynn Bandringa 1945 California
Donna Barnhill 1967 North Carolina
Ingrid Bauer 1958 Ohio
Kristy Booth 1960 Texas
Joyce Brewer 1955 Texas
Darcy Brown 1943 Ohio
Sandra Butler 1962 Nevada
Peggy Byars-Baisden 1941 Florida
Diane Chorba 1949 Michigan
ANNA CIACCIO 1949 Nebraska
Darlene Conklin 1959 New York
Mary Cook Spencer 1954 Maryland
Carla Corley 1965 Alabama
Barbara Cotton 1965 North Dakota
Joanne Coughlin 1953 Ohio
Donella Coultas 1950 California
Melinda Creech 1965 Indiana
Susan DeQuina 1957 Massachusetts
Carol Donn 1963 Florida
Rebecca Dunn 1958 Nevada
Diane Dye 1965 California
Christine Eastin 1952 California
Carol Edwards 1955 Washington
Beverly England 1947 Colorado
Rachael Garden 1964 New Hampshire
Cherry Greenman 1956 Washington
Jamie Grissim 1955 Washington
Corinne Groenenberg 1957 California
Gina Hall 1962 Virginia
Susan Hallowell Florida
Evelyn Hartley 1937 Wisconsin
Kathleen Henson 1948 Oklahoma
Lorraine Herbster 1962 New Jersey
Margaret Holst 1958 Nebraska
Paulette Jaster 1954 Michigan
Rita Jolly 1955 Oregon
Tina Kemp 1964 Delaware
Kimberly King 1966 Michigan
Vicke Lamberton 1949 Massachusetts
Lori Lloyd 1961 Ohio
Carol Lubahn 1954 California
Tammy Mahoney 1961 New York
Anne Manchester 1954 Delaware
Aleca Manning 1952 Arizona
Deborah McCall 1963 Illinois
Angela Meeker 1965 Washington
Deborah Meyer 1958 Wyoming
Barbara Monaco 1960 Virginia
Audrey Nerenberg 1958 New York
Linda Nickell 1955 Michigan
Nancy O'Sullivan 1959 Illinois
Judith ODonnell 1961 New York
Mary Opitz 1963 Florida
Patricia Otto 1952 Idaho
Sheila Pierce 1954 West Virginia
Linda Pleva 1949 Oregon
Sharon Pretorius 1960 Ohio
Dean Pyle Peters 1966 Michigan
Laureen Rahn 1966 New Hampshire
Angela Ramsey 1961 Florida
Elaine Robertson 1955 Washington
Lonene Rogers 1951 Pennsylvania
Alma Root 1965 California
Alma Root 1965 California
Nancy Rose 1950 Idaho
Janis Sanders 1950 Michigan
Lucinda Schaefer 1962 California
Gayla Schaper 1951 Idaho
Cheryl Scherer 1959 Missouri
Diane Schulte 1954 Idaho
Suzanne Schultz 1961 Wisconsin
Beverly Sharpman 1930 Pennsylvania
Mary Shinn 1953 Arkansas
Catherine Sjoberg 1957 Wisconsin
Mary Cook Spencer 1954 Maryland
Debra Spickler 1955 Connecticut
Mary Sprague 1960 Florida
Kimberly Stewart 1956 California
Mary Trlica 1957 Texas
Virginia Uden 1947 Wyoming
Belinda VanLith 1957 Minnesota
Floradean Walker 1925 Texas
Christina White 1967 Washington
Christina White 1967 Washington
Kathy Wilcox 1956 Michigan
Debra Wilhite 1955 Indiana
Cynthia Woolard 1957 Florida
April Zane 1960 Illinois
Karen Zendrosky 1963 New Jersey

 

[carbuff]

I had a very weird dream the other night where Buckskin Girl appeared to me and told me she left town with a rodeo rider she had a crush on but he got tired of her and left her at a truck stop and she was trying to get home but got a ride with a trucker who killed her and dumped her and her name was Barbara Cotton but they made a mistake when they ruled her out.

I do not usually have dreams like this. Weirded me out. Probably means I've been spending too much time on Doenet and Charley...

 

[dotr]

I had a very weird dream the other night where Buckskin Girl appeared to me and told me she left town with a rodeo rider she had a crush on but he got tired of her and left her at a truck stop and she was trying to get home but got a ride with a trucker who killed her and dumped her and her name was Barbara Cotton but they made a mistake when they ruled her out.

I do not usually have dreams like this. Weirded me out. Probably means I've been spending too much time on Doenet and Charley...

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cotton_barbara.html

Maybe something to it, or similar name.
Sometimes one can get bleary-eyed and foggy- headed looking through the "Does" in hopes of finding a match not unlike a very complicated game of "Concentration".
Very frustrating when you think you found someone and then not remember where on earth you think you saw the match!
The beauty of dreaming imo. is that sometimes the sleeping brain seems to put things together, or at least makes an attempt to find the connections missed in waking hours. imo.

 

[carbuff]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cotton_barbara.html

Maybe something to it, or similar name.
Sometimes one can get bleary-eyed and foggy- headed looking through the "Does" in hopes of finding a match not unlike a very complicated game of "Concentration".
Very frustrating when you think you found someone and then not remember where on earth you think you saw the match!
The beauty of dreaming imo. is that sometimes the sleeping brain seems to put things together, or at least makes an attempt to find the connections missed in waking hours. imo.

Barbara Cotton is on the ruleouts list, too. Missing from Dickinson, SD, which is certainly a place one might elope with a cowboy from.

I must have read that before...it sounds familiar.

And yes, you have nailed it! It's exactly like a complicated game of Concentration!

 

[nerosleuth]

I had a very weird dream the other night where Buckskin Girl appeared to me and told me she left town with a rodeo rider she had a crush on but he got tired of her and left her at a truck stop and she was trying to get home but got a ride with a trucker who killed her and dumped her and her name was Barbara Cotton but they made a mistake when they ruled her out.

The traveling rodeo circuit, whether amateur or professional, would be something to look into.

I wonder if there were any traveling rodeo shows anywhere East of the Mississippi River during April 1981.

 

[dogmaticsusie]

I think it's fair to assume that she was from a Western state (west of the Mississippi River) based on the style of her jacket, but if she was a travelin' gal, she could have just liked it and picked it up somewhere along the way. (Just saying not to get too caught up in finding someone who was from out West or interested in rodeos. I used to wear skater pants/shoes/etc and had absolutely no idea how to skateboard/snowboard. Oh, early 20's. :innocent

 

[dotr]

I think it's fair to assume that she was from a Western state (west of the Mississippi River) based on the style of her jacket, but if she was a travelin' gal, she could have just liked it and picked it up somewhere along the way. (Just saying not to get too caught up in finding someone who was from out West or interested in rodeos. I used to wear skater pants/shoes/etc and had absolutely no idea how to skateboard/snowboard. Oh, early 20's. :innocent

Welcome to Ws. dogmaticsusie!
Wondering if the jacket might have been bought at a road stand flea market, a vintage boutique, or a church sale, all fun places to find interesting inexpensive clothes all fab. in our early twenties!
This Doe looks too interesting to be forgotten by anyone imo.hope she is given her name back soon.