GUILTY OK - Christopher Lane, 22, Australian, slain in thrill killing, Duncan, 16 Aug 2013

  • #61
17 year old charged as juvenile and only an accessory, yet he claimed in court he was the one who pulled a trigger. It's not making sense to me why he isn't charged like the other 2.

"Though the 17-year-old suspect was not charged with murder, he claimed in open court Monday that "he pulled the trigger." The judge ordered him to remain quiet."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/2...student-in-oklahoma-for-fun-it/#ixzz2cXYeBwxx

This is weird bc in the beginning he's the one that said the 16 year old was the shooter and he (the 17 year old) was the driver of the vehicle.
 
  • #62
They've probably done a deal with him to give evidence against the other two.

That's exactly what I think, bc the 17 year old was the first one to speak... That's when the story started to unravel.
 
  • #63
All I have to say, is there is a special kind of hell for these "bored" people.

I hope they are "bored" in prison for as long as the law allows. :twocents:
 
  • #64
Wouldn't it be the 15 year old that would be charged as a juvenile? I thought no one under 16 could be charged as an adult in Oklahoma. Anyone know? Or is there no age minimum?
 
  • #65
All I have to say, is there is a special kind of hell for these "bored" people.

I hope they are "bored" in prison for as long as the law allows. :twocents:

May they all be blessed with rosettes, raspberries and hemorrhoids. :Banane54:
 
  • #66
Omg I'm so confused... It has to be a plea if the 17 year old was charged as an accessory...
 
  • #67
Two teenagers were charged Tuesday with first-degree murder in the shooting death of a college baseball player out for a jog in Oklahoma — a crime that one teen said they carried out simply because they were bored, according to police.
JFE Jr., 15, and CAL, 16, were charged with murder. A third teenager, 17, was charged with being an accessory to murder after the fact and with firing a weapon. The first two teens were charged as adults, the third as a juvenile.
The charges were unveiled at a hearing in Duncan, Okla. The ballplayer, Christopher Lane, was visiting the town, where his girlfriend lives, the police chief told The Associated Press. He passed a home where the teens were staying and was gunned down at random, the chief said.

From the link:

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...ree-murder-in-ballplayers-killing-in-oklahoma

I'm sorry, and I apologize if this come off wrong. I happen to be getting a migraine and one symptom is crankiness... Anyway, it certainly seems random enough to me. It's horrifying. He was jogging while visiting his girlfriends hometown. WTH?..

At the link it is said they are deciding whether they will be charged as adults.

IDK... It's just horrifying. It doesnt matter where he came from, whether its across the street, next door, the next town or another country. This man isn't even a us citizen or its temporary due to college. He's from Australia here on scholarship. :banghead:

Moo and all that..

Since JFE is charged as an adult, here's his full Vine profile...

JFE vine:
http://seenive.com/u/939312363478327296
 
  • #68
Access denied on both.
 
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  • #70
Omg I'm so confused... It has to be a plea if the 17 year old was charged as an accessory...

I agree. But what use is it going to be? Now defense lawyers for the other two can claim 17 year old confessed. I don't understand what the prosecutor was thinking here at all. As far as I can tell, prosecutor doesn't have to prove which one is a trigger man if it's a conspiracy among all of them.
So why give 17 year old such a sweet deal? Especially considering he is the oldest of the three, and apparently not reliable (if he claimed one thing to the prosecutor, but another in open court).
 
  • #71
I agree. But what use is it going to be? Now defense lawyers for the other two can claim 17 year old confessed. I don't understand what the prosecutor was thinking here at all. As far as I can tell, prosecutor doesn't have to prove which one is a trigger man if it's a conspiracy among all of them.
So why give 17 year old such a sweet deal? Especially considering he is the oldest of the three, and apparently not reliable (if he claimed one thing to the prosecutor, but another in open court).

All I can think is that his parents have money and pulled a lawyer in immediately. Still, I'm stunned. If all three of them picked Christopher as their victim, and got in MJ's car to ride up behind him and shoot him, then I can't see why MJ is getting such a good deal. He is clearly an accessory before the fact, not after it!
 
  • #72
I agree. But what use is it going to be? Now defense lawyers for the other two can claim 17 year old confessed. I don't understand what the prosecutor was thinking here at all. As far as I can tell, prosecutor doesn't have to prove which one is a trigger man if it's a conspiracy among all of them.
So why give 17 year old such a sweet deal? Especially considering he is the oldest of the three, and apparently not reliable (if he claimed one thing to the prosecutor, but another in open court).

No eye witness to the actual shooting besides the 3 little criminals. I think that's why he got the plea, if that's indeed what it is. I hate this stuff. I understand why prosecutors and law enforcement handle things this way but in cases like this I vehemently disagree.
 
  • #73
All I can think is that his parents have money and pulled a lawyer in immediately. Still, I'm stunned. If all three of them picked Christopher as their victim, and got in MJ's car to ride up behind him and shoot him, then I can't see why MJ is getting such a good deal. He is clearly an accessory before the fact, not after it!

Before during AND after... I agree. He should have the same charges.
 
  • #74
Omg this is absolutely crazy! Here's JE FB! No - it isn't a joke!

www.facebook.com/blackcoon44

You just can't make this crap up. Wth?

That "2 drops in 2 hours" post which was mentioned in this thread earlier as if it were JFE gloating about the murder, was actually posted on Wednesday. The murder happened on Friday, so whatever he was talking about there it wasn't the murder.

ETA: I also see that the pics we've all seen in the media aren't accurate - they've posted a picture of one of the suspects twice, giving the impression that its three black kids. MJ is white.
 
  • #75
I understand there is no eyewitness. But he now reportedly claimed in court he was the trigger man.
Given that, how can he be charged as a juvenile? He will get out at 21 even if convicted. What kind of justice is that?
 
  • #76
Hey cappy, remember what you said about trusting initial media reports? Well on JFE FB wall, he says what Capt Ford was quoted in the media as saying "Bang 2 drops In 2hours". he posted that on the 15th so there's no way it was in reference to the killing of the dog and the killing of Chris. Chris was murdered on Friday the 16th. So I wonder now...
 
  • #77
Omg this is absolutely crazy! Here's JFE FB! No - it isn't a joke!

www.facebook.com/blackcoon44

You just can't make this crap up. Wth?

All those people making racist comments on his wall are showing that they are just as ugly inside as the murderers IMO.

I understand the anger but they can't pretend to be classier or somehow superior to murderers when they're spewing that kind of garbage.
 
  • #78
I understand there is no eyewitness. But he now reportedly claimed in court he was the trigger man.
Given that, how can he be charged as a juvenile? He will get out at 21 even if convicted. What kind of justice is that?

Especially if the two kids who get tried as adults didn't pull the trigger! I'm hoping it's all part of the misidentification issue this case has been plagued with and it's actually one of the teens charged as an adult who blurted that out in court. We can only hope the justice system will be just.
 
  • #79
I understand there is no eyewitness. But he now reportedly claimed in court he was the trigger man.
Given that, how can he be charged as a juvenile? He will get out at 21 even if convicted. What kind of justice is that?

Probably bc the younger ones are going to do more time, possibly together, and he'll have a bullseye on the back of his head bc they're supposed to be "together" in it. It makes him look bad that he's the oldest and is facing the lightest sentence out of the 3, so he had to step up and try to look better by saying that.

Being charged as a juvenile, does that mean he'll get out of juvey at the age of 21? I thought murder was different, even accessory to murder. Dear GOD help us all.
 
  • #80
Jake Tapper, on CNN, is airing a segment on this case and he is not holding back age, race or creed.

A+ reporting, imo.
 

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