OK OK - Cynthia Kinney, 16, Osage, 23 June 1976

[Khavna]

were there any construction workers in particular that your husbands family befriended? I ask this because maybe she found something out about him and he took her, maybe he was from Kansas. Im not big on the whole psychic thing, but the theroy makes sense. Maybe it was a construction workers marijuana? I dont know just wanted to find out if the family had befriended a worker. and to let you know im very sorry for all that your family has went through. I will be praying for her mother.

i'm a bit sceptical about psychics when they are used to do cases like this. most are just leeches sucking the money out of you, however, there are those that truely (i believe) can see and know what happened. mind you all the psychics that were used in this case (3) said the same things and the description of the male involved in her disaperance was very similar. it makes you think.

soonerbebe, i want to ask you a personal question here, when the psychics described the male involved in her disaperance, you said that a couple of close family friends came into mind that matched the description, may i ask who do you think they were? (you can PM me if you don't want everyone here knowing) and you said that you couldn't imagine them doing this to cynthia.

all i have to say to that comment is, you would be surprised what people can do to their own family, it's sad but true, alot of children etc are being hurt by their family members, this is just a thought im not assuming that someone close to her hurt her :blushing:

my prayers for you, cynthia and her family
Khavna

 

[Khavna]

also you said that there was a rumour of pot being found in one of the dryers, but noone could claim this was true?! maybe going along with the pot theory that this is true, who would start a rumour like that and why? i believe there might be some truth to that


someone in the small town i think know's something that could help this case :twocents:

 

[Soonerbebe]

I am going to ask the person, that told me of the marijuana rumor. I totally beleive he heard that. I just need to find when he heard that, and who he heard that from.

My husband says the construction workers were from all over. He said they were contractors that traveled around. He said they did not ever know any of them. We do not know, of course if Cyndi might have befriended one of them. That is certainly a possibility.

Thank you guys for all the encouragment. You have also given me some things to think about. I am going to go to the library on Monday, and get copies of all the newspaper clippings concerning her case. It will be on microfilm, since it was so long ago. So, I plan on spending the day. I will let you know how it goes.

Your friend,
Sooner

 

[Khavna]

good luck with your search. yes please tell us how it went :clap: the marijuana theory might have some truth, and you never know she could have befriended a construction worker, considering they were there for a long time??? god bless you with your search i hope one day the truth is exsposed :blowkiss:

 

[Khavna]

please keep us all updated Soonerbebe :blowkiss:

 

[Trino]

Cynthia's case is definitely intriguing and deserves a resolution for your entire family.

I have to wonder if Cynthia, living in a small town, was a bit naive. (I was pretty much like that when I was her age, which, of course, means I trusted everyone and didn't even think about being a crime victim.) If she was naive and trusting, she may have befriended a construction worker and willingly gone with him on what was to be a quick errand. She was 16, and flirting is the mode of operation of most teens that age - never thinking, of course, of a disasterous outcome.

Approximately what time is it guessed that she disappeared? Construction workers are early risers, of course. Is there a record available of who was working at the site?

 

[Bobbisangel]

I would want resolution too if it were me. I also can understand the parents just not being able to handle it anymore. It is probably the only way that they can deal with her disappearance now. The pain has to be lasting as they never did find out anything or find her body. Such a nightmare for a family. The questions and a person's imagination would never stop unless you just block it out in order to take care of yourself. I feel so bad for her mom with colon cancer. That has to be so painful. She will be with Cindi one of these days and she won't be suffering physically or emotionally anymore.

I can just imagine how I would have been if I was working across the street from a bunch of construction workers :silenced: There are usually some pretty good looking guys working construction as travelers and they are usually young and single cause they are gone all of the time. Lordy, I would have been in seventh heaven. Probably flirting every chance I got!!

Do you think back in those days her knowing someone dried some pot in a dryer would have been something that someone would have murdered over?
Maybe if it was a relative it could have been if he didn't want the rest of the family to know he had a side job or something. I don't think it would faze a construction worker. They are usually pretty much a "don't give a darn" bunch of guys. They probably would have just denied it if asked.

I'm not big on psychics but I find it interesting that all three said they thought Cindi was in the same state or city. Also about the man. That really makes me wonder. It would be interesting to know if there was an family members that didn't help search for Cindi...that didn't take an active part in anything to do with her disappearance. Also if anyone remembers them being gone for any length of time the day Cindi disappeared or within a day or two afterward. Probably the same day. The people that you might get the most info from are the people that you can't ask. And it has been a long time ago to remember details like that. Anyone else in the family still around that you might be able to ask? It has to make it difficult and tie your hands not to be able to question people. Maybe the brother-in-law that was a cop then can pick his brain about family or someone in the family that just didn't seem to take an interest. Of course the killer could have taken an active part so as not to look guilty. Boy, I don't know but I can sure understand your wanting to find out who did this and to be able to bring Cindi home for a proper buriel.

 

[meggilyweggily]

I'm not big on psychics but I find it interesting that all three said they thought Cindi was in the same state or city.

Unfortunately that may mean nothing. I think psychics are in communication with one another and that's why their visions often sound the same. Here's a good example Ann Rule wrote about:

Back in the eighties a teenager disappeared without a trace, along with her car. Everyone thought she must have been kidnapped, cause she had no reason to run away, but there was just no evidence at all. There was a huge investigation that uncovered nothing but rumors. The girl's mom consulted several psychics, at least three I think, who all had basically the same vision: the girl had been abducted and was held in a remote log cabin and would be killed by an injection of heroin if she wasn't found soon.
It turned out that on the night of her disappearance, the girl accidentally flipped her car over a bridge rail and was killed. They didn't find her or her car for almost two years. There was no log cabin and no heroin and certainly no kidnapping. I can only conclude that the psychics the mom visited were comparing notes.

 

[Khavna]

this could be a possibility, but there is no evidence that they are however. Soonerbebe has been PM me about this case alot and she told me that the psychics were from all over(?) not just in the little town that cynthia lived in.

 

[meggilyweggily]

So were the psychics the one girl's mom consulted. They were from all around the country. I simply don't see how they could have all come up with the exact same WRONG vision by coincidence, that's all.

 

[Trino]

Do you think back in those days her knowing someone dried some pot in a dryer would have been something that someone would have murdered over? Maybe if it was a relative it could have been if he didn't want the rest of the family to know he had a side job or something. I don't think it would faze a construction worker. They are usually pretty much a "don't give a darn" bunch of guys. They probably would have just denied it if asked.

Trust me on this one... Illegal or not... In the 70's pot was a cheap, preferential get high drug. It was everywhere, easy to obtain. I can't see someone - relative, friend, or construction worker - being murdered over drying pot in a dryer. I think her abduction had more to do with a sexual assault.

 

[meggilyweggily]

I'm not disagreeing with your theory, Trino, but I would like to point out that, in the seventies, penalites for marijuana possession in many states were much more severe than they are today. I've heard of people back then getting ten-year terms for a small amount. I think many people would consider that worth killing over.

 

[Khavna]

she might have known the person who was drying it in the dryer in the first place. however, soonerbebe hasn't replied here for a long time and even when i have been PM her as well. this would explain why there was no sign of a struggle and could there be a possibility that she helped to dry it in the dryer with the other person then they decided to 'get rid of her' so that she wouldn't say a word about it?

 

[Bobbisangel]

I think the only hope of ever solving this case is to get a detective to become interested in this case. It really makes it hard when you can't ask questions of the people who might remember something that they hadn't thought of back then. A detective would have more resources. This case might have to wait until Cindy's parents are both gone so as not to bring them more pain.

 

[Soonerbebe]

I want to thank you guys for still careing!! I have been pretty sick with bronchitis and a sinus infection. I am finally back thought!! I am still looking for Cyndi, and I will never give up. Thank you guys for helping keep her story out there. Maybey someday....we can bring Cyndi home.


God bless ALL of you.

 

[Soonerbebe]

I did get newpaper articles today, and am looking through them to see if there might be just one little thing somebody might have missed. I will get back with you guys.


Thank you again!!!!

 

[Soonerbebe]

I was looking through the old newspaper clippings. There were reports that Cyndi got into a car with two other people at around 9:30 am. The car is described as a four-door 1966 caramel-colored Plymouth Belvedere.

Witnesses said the car in question had parked in front of the laundry at about 9:00 am, and two persons had carried several baskets inside. About 30 minutes later, one of the persons carried out the baskets and placed them in the back seat. The person reportedly then got into the car on the driver's side. The other person and Cyndi then came out of the laundry and got in on the other side, witnesses said.
There are conflicting reports about the description of the persons in the car. They were described by one witness as two women- one about 26 to 30 years old and the other somewhat younger.
The last information they received has the persons described as a man and woman.
The car was beleived to have an Oklahoma license tag. The car was reportedly seen on Monday night. Cyndi went missing on Wednesday morning.
Even the paper, Sherrif, and law officials described her as a very good girl. She was a twirler, and a cheerleader. She had a good home life, and was not the kind of girl to just run away. She had lots of friends. Not to mention...she left her purse, and car keys and everything behind. They stated that as far as they were concerned it was an abduction.

I am still going through more clippings (microfilm). There is supposed to be a sketch of a possible male involved. If I can find it, I will post it as well. I am hopeing that something in here could possibly be just the clue we need to solve this.

Thank you,
Sooner

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Soonerbebe... Very sorry to hear about this.

Did you check the pictures of the women's pictures found in a serial killer's home? http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

I am praying for some answers for you for this case.

 

[Soonerbebe]

Thank you for that link. That is so sad. These poor girls are sombodys daughter, sister, cousin, friend etc. They deserve to be identified. I will pass that along to my friends.

I am also praying for you in your search for Maura. She is a BEAUTIFUL girl. Seems that she is very sweet. You are in my prayers.

Thank you for your support and kindness!!!

Your friend,
Sooner

 

[fear30]

I've been reading through your comments and boy does it bring back memories. I was there the day that Cyndi disappeared. I was one of her friends and I went to the laundromat to pick her up for cheerleading practice and she wasn't there, her things were there, but she wasn't. I went all over town looking for her. I will never forget that summer as long as I live and I have always wondered what could have happened.

As for the construction workers, I believe I remember that they all took lie detector tests right after it happened, so I think we can eliminate that theory. As for Cyndi flirting with them, that was NOT her style. She was a very nice, decent girl and remember, this was in the 70's. Girls didn't act they way they do today when it comes to men. There were other people in the laudromat when she disappeared, I remember at least 4 or 5 people that were questioned at the time, but I never heard what they had to say.

I also remember the psychic information that, in addition to her being in Kansas, they also said there was a lot of cement around her and there was a flag waving in the breeze. I can tell you this, we spent that entire summer searching every square inch of Osage County, many of us on foot, many on horseback, etc. but to no avail.

Someone on here asked why she was at the laundromat by herself. Again, remember that this was in the 70's. You didn't worry about stuff like that back then, we still slept with our front door wide open, it was a different time. Cyndi was working at the laundromat for a summer job. People could drop off their laundry and she would do it up for them and make money. She was 16 years old, plenty old enough to have a summer job. I can tell you this much, since that day, I have never stepped foot in a laundromat. People make fun of me because they scare me - but I don't care, I'm not ever going in one!!!!!

There were many rumors in that small town right after the disappearance, but I believe they were all just rumors, the pot in the dryer, the moonies, etc. These were all investigated, in addition, to many others, but nothing ever panned out. I'm not even sure about the car and the two people, it was all, and still is, very puzzling and odd. I have often wanted to write a book about the situation, how it rocked our small town, and how it has affected our lives to this day. But I am determined to find out the ending to the story before I write the book. That is what I am waiting for.

Anyway, anything you all can do to help solve this mystery would be appreciated. Thanks for the comments. I hoped this helped to clarify some things.