OK - Donald 'Joe' Neff, 61, Poteau, 14 May 2009 - #1

[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

~bump for Joe and MMD~

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

MMD....

I did respond the other day to the OSBI survey that Ruflosson was kind enough to post. I was very surprised that I received a very prompt and personal reply from Director Langley who took issue with my comments regarding OSBI's handling of disappearances/murders in that state. He is steadfast in his belief that they continue to see an almost 90% resolution rate to which I take issue.

I will post these emails later as I have a lot happening right now with my son - possible recurrence of a major health issue that we need to deal with right now.

Just wanted you to know. I have to give him credit at least for the personal response which did surprise me. (I am with you, I still want to see statistics before I will buy what he's selling.)

 

[SympatheticFriend]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

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[missingmydad]

thanks for the bumps!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have had a crazy busy week, thanks so much for the OSBI survey link. I too am quite suprised that they are requesting the publics opinion, with all of the unsolved murders in this area. They are asking for it huh?
I will have to go back and see what I missed and try to get back on here in a day or two. Thanks so much. Please keep the prayers coming, the more the better.....

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Hi MMD...glad you are back....

You and your dad are in my daily (if not hourly) prayers....

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

bump to the top of the page for Joe....

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Sillybilly]

I understand that a multi-agency task force (OSBI, FBI, US Marshal's Office and LeFlore County Sheriff's Department and LeFlore DA's office) has been formed with regard to your Dad's case and Jody Rilee Wilson's. You might want to contact the FBI to enquire if they have had a profile done in your Dad's case.

John Douglas's site sets out how FBI profilers get involved in investigating cases at:

http://www.johndouglasmindhunter.com/faqs/index.php

It looks like JED doesn't take cases directly from family members, but wouldn't hurt to join his "Bulletin Board" (message forum) to get your Dad's case on there. JD does post there personally, but how often I'm not sure.

 

[Sillybilly]

I never like to instill false hopes in these cases, but I think this quote gives a glimmer of hope in Joe's case.

When asked if a task force might be needed in the Andarko case, J. Brown said:

A task force means nothing without leads.

from: http://newsok.com/da-criticizes-osbi-over-carol-daniels-inquiry/article/3422863

My interpretation of that would be that there must be some leads in both Joe's case and Jody's. I hope i'm right.

 

[Sillybilly]

I hesitate posting this, but amma gonna do it anyway

Nothing enrages me more than an injustice, whether to myself or to others. Bit of my background here ...

I launched and won a major wrongful death/medmal lawsuit based on fast and furious telephone input from a prominent lawyer who was too busy to take the case. He was interested however, and very compassionate, and talked so fast it was like he had bullets coming out of his mouth. When no other lawyer would take the case because there wasn't enough $$ in it for them, I launched my own 23 pg Statement of Claim. Eventually another major lawyer felt sorry for me I guess, stepped up to the plate, and eventually there was a private settlement with a bit of $$ for me and over $100,000 for the law firm. Moral of that story is ... you've got nothing to lose MMD. Push some more buttons and don't care much about stepping on toes in the process !! This is about JUSTICE for your Dad and for YOU.

Could be the Average Joe doesn't have direct access to these guys, but here's a couple of names that spring to mind that might at least give you 5 minutes of their time on a phone call .. maybe nothing more than a direction to go in, but every little bit helps.

Scout out criminal profilers and their contact info. Here's a couple off the top of my head:

Gregg McCrary, profiler, former FBI agent, professor of forensic psychology at Nova Southeastern University in Ft. Lauderdale and Marymount University, Arlington, Virginia. Is/was(?) associated with National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime ,

Steven Egger, criminologist (used to be with University of Houston-Clear Lake)

Kim Rossmo, geographical profiler, former Vancouver PD, i think still Professor at University of Texas (or Houston?). Well known in his field, and might be able to give you some names of regular criminal profilers who could help.

Pat Brown (don't have any more contact info than she's frequently on the NG show)

OK .. 3 posts in a row, so I'm out of here

As I get more time, I'll try to find more

 

[Ruflossn]

I hesitate posting this, but amma gonna do it anyway

Nothing enrages me more than an injustice, whether to myself or to others. Bit of my background here ...

I launched and won a major wrongful death/medmal lawsuit based on fast and furious telephone input from a prominent lawyer who was too busy to take the case. He was interested however, and very compassionate, and talked so fast it was like he had bullets coming out of his mouth. When no other lawyer would take the case because there wasn't enough $$ in it for them, I launched my own 23 pg Statement of Claim. Eventually another major lawyer felt sorry for me I guess, stepped up to the plate, and eventually there was a private settlement with a bit of $$ for me and over $100,000 for the law firm. Moral of that story is ... you've got nothing to lose MMD. Push some more buttons and don't care much about stepping on toes in the process !! This is about JUSTICE for your Dad and for YOU.

Could be the Average Joe doesn't have direct access to these guys, but here's a couple of names that spring to mind that might at least give you 5 minutes of their time on a phone call .. maybe nothing more than a direction to go in, but every little bit helps.

Scout out criminal profilers and their contact info. Here's a couple off the top of my head:

Gregg McCrary, profiler, former FBI agent, professor of forensic psychology at Nova Southeastern University in Ft. Lauderdale and Marymount University, Arlington, Virginia. Is/was(?) associated with National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime ,

Steven Egger, criminologist (used to be with University of Houston-Clear Lake)

Kim Rossmo, geographical profiler, former Vancouver PD, i think still Professor at University of Texas (or Houston?). Well known in his field, and might be able to give you some names of regular criminal profilers who could help.

Pat Brown (don't have any more contact info than she's frequently on the NG show)

OK .. 3 posts in a row, so I'm out of here

As I get more time, I'll try to find more

sillybilly ~
These are all great ideas. Unfortunately, there has not been a lot of info released by LE in regards to the crime scenes, condition of Joe's body etc....
There really hasn't even been enough info released to determine if the perp(s) would fall under the organized, disorganized or mixed category. If a professional profiler could obtain more info I think an accurate offender profile could be determined. I would love to read the thoughts and ideas of someone who had access to the crime scene sketches, photos, autopsy etc...

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

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[Blondie in Spokane]

I guess I'm just stubborn, but I refuse to let Joe's case languish to the back pages!!

Hang in there MMD!! Justice will come, I believe!!