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I've got a son and a grandson and, at age 10, they could have slept through a category 9 hurricane. I have no problem believing this poor child just slept through it all.The article said there was a box fan on in his room which could have muffled the sound.
I would guess heavy sleeper too.
Looks like a gun to me. If those two pictures were on his FB page, it certainly shows something is wrong with him, yet people say "There were no red flags". SMH Re, why the 10-yr old was left, could it have been intended as a punishment ... forcing him to face such horror?Can anyone tell what he has in his mouth in his pic on his FB? Is that a gun or something else. It's too small to tell. Pic posted over a decade ago.
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In that pic you shared, looks like the hand doing the punching belongs to one of his siblings, not the dad, doesn't it? Or I guess maybe the mom... but I'd guess a sibling. Just doesn't look like an adult male hand to me. Not that it matters, or maybe it does... Also, the surviving son is 8, I think. Could possibly be him in the pic. Very strange.Most of the normal pictures were from around a decade and even longer ago. The one of his son being socked in the face with snot coming out his nose was less than 2 months before the killings. At least that's the significance to me.
It doesn't appear to be inconsistent with a gun. jmoo But I suppose it could be consistent with many things. jmooCan anyone tell what he has in his mouth in his pic on his FB? Is that a gun or something else. It's too small to tell. Pic posted over a decade ago.
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My first thought was he burned out after his rampage, killing his wife and three eldest sons; he likely had a breakdown, realized what he had done and took himself out.Maybe the survivor wasn't actually there, like he was at a sleepover or something and came home. Not sure why the police would say he was there though if that was the case. Maybe to protect him for some reason.
Well, yeah. It is strange that there was no scalation, that this tragedy just happened out of the blue. Usually, when something like this happens, there are signs of domestic violence. It's very possible that LE never had contact with the family but there was domestic violence, what I find strange is that nobody seems to be able to point to any signs, not extended family, not friends, not neighbours. The children were old enough to comment with friends and classmates if something was going on.I found this interesting. BBM
The reason for the tragedy is also a mystery — police had no previous contact with the family, and there was no history of domestic abuse.
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Oklahoma family speaks out after father’s mysterious murder-suicide that spared one son
“He’s got plenty of distractions (right now). I just think about when all the attention ends and everything.”nypost.com
Exactly. But what I find surprising is that nobody seems to have anything to say about violence in the home, not their extended families, not friends, not neighbors, not the children's friends/classmates... I wonder if the surviving child had anything to say about it of this really just happened out of the blue. Either way, it's a tragedy.No DOCUMENTED history, anyway.
This possibility is part of what makes guns in the household so dangerous.My first thought was he burned out after his rampage, killing his wife and three eldest sons; he likely had a breakdown, realized what he had done and took himself out.
JMO, but I would not be surprised if there was a chronological order, from eldest to youngest.
I think the 10-year-old was just too much.
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Great post and I agree.This possibility is part of what makes guns in the household so dangerous.
If this was unplanned, it could be like you said—he was so angry he went on a rampage and started killing his family until the reality of what he had done hit him before he could kill his youngest son, and he was so ashamed or overwhelmed or scared that he then killed himself—and all of that could have easily happened within 5 minutes. If he didn’t have immediate access to a gun, it would have taken a lot longer to kill his family, and would have been physically a lot more taxing, along with the chance of greater emotional involvement in other methods (eg. stabbing).
The gun made it so much easier for him to cause so much harm.