GUILTY OK - Jaymie Adams, 25, Blanchard, 9 Dec 2011

[Crosby87]

ok. so blunt force trauma, but no description of what might have caused it.

which means it could have been anything that might not have left a mark on the assailant and/or left tell-tale marks as to exactly what was used to cause the injury.

Yes, but a Medical Examiner and/or an experienced criminologist who saw and/or studied the wounds on Jaymie’s body should have an opinion on whether the injuries found on the victim’s body would leave any noticeable injuries on her killer’s body and hands.

And a visual examination of the tissue at Jaymie’s jaw might reveal whether the blunt force trauma was caused by the assailant’s hand or an object.

None of Jaymie’s fingernails were broken and the ME didn’t say the wounds on Jaymie’s hands were defense wounds. Abrasions/scrapes, debris and blood were found on her hands.

Jason Snider; Law enforcement; Entomologist; Anthropologist attended Jaymie’s autopsy.
The medical examiner who performed the autopsy is a pathologist.

I suppose a person can viciously stab a person with a knife and dispose of an adult’s body without leaving any tell tale marks on themselves. I think when police met Justin at the McDonald’s restaurant they would havd noticed if he there were any unusual marks on his body. There must have been some blood splatter left on the killer after the assault occurred.

OCDP brought in a team of scientists to help them determine exactly how long Jaymie had been dead after her body was left on the dirt bike trail.

An entomologist’s knowledge of bugs is very useful in murder investigations. As the body goes through various stages of decomposition, different types of insects are attracted to it.

http://www.news9.com/story/16517858...lice-in-investigation-of-blanchard-moms-death

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1208/adams.pdf

 

[wfgodot]

If it hasn't been noted before (or even if it has!) the Medical Examiner's office in OK has been in a constant state of chaos, at least in the many years I've been here.

 

[Crosby87]

If it hasn't been noted before (or even if it has!) the Medical Examiner's office in OK has been in a constant state of chaos, at least in the many years I've been here.

On January 10, 2012, Amy Elliott, Spokewoman for the Oklahoma City State medical examiner’s office said 15 bodies were brought into the medical examiner’s office over the weekend so it might have been especially busy and possibly crazy when Jaymie’s autopsy took place.

Ms Elliott said toxicology tests can take three-to-six months and seven months later the medical examiner’s office released Jaymie’s report which suggests the report wasn’t withheld because of the murder investigation.

Shortly after Justin reported his wife missing, he went to the police station and admitted his wife was involved in prostitution and was working when she disappeared so the ME and LE officer who performed the autopsy on Monday morning may not have known this beforehand. Search warrants confirmed Jaymie was scheduled to meet three clients Friday evening so it seems very odd to me that no definite sperm was seen in the oral, vaginal, or rectal swabs.

The medical examiner found multiple cuts on the only coat clothing the body with 15 overlying stab wounds on the back and more on the collar. The knife penetrated the skin but apparently there was no fabric from the coat found etched into these wounds and some of these wounds were 7.9 cm deep.

The medical examiner’s report provides crucial information in a murder investigation.

Who owns the Old Navy coat Jaymie’s body was found wrapped in?

http://newsok.com/jaymie-adams-case...-slow-in-coming-officials-say/article/3638913
http://newsok.com/jaymie-adams-autopsy-released-by-oklahoma-medical-examiner/article/3705007
http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1208/adams.pdf

 

[Crosby87]

A client can tell the woman they will be alone and then turn around and bring one or two of his buddies along.

 

[Crosby87]

Have LE searched the field and abandoned buildings where Jaymie's remains were found for evidence?

 

[she-wolf78]

ok. thank you for that. i'm just still trying to wrap my head around all of this.

Yes, but a Medical Examiner and/or an experienced criminologist who saw and/or studied the wounds on Jaymie’s body should have an opinion on whether the injuries found on the victim’s body would leave any noticeable injuries on her killer’s body and hands.

And a visual examination of the tissue at Jaymie’s jaw might reveal whether the blunt force trauma was caused by the assailant’s hand or an object.

None of Jaymie’s fingernails were broken and the ME didn’t say the wounds on Jaymie’s hands were defense wounds. Abrasions/scrapes, debris and blood were found on her hands.

Jason Snider; Law enforcement; Entomologist; Anthropologist attended Jaymie’s autopsy.
The medical examiner who performed the autopsy is a pathologist.

I suppose a person can viciously stab a person with a knife and dispose of an adult’s body without leaving any tell tale marks on themselves. I think when police met Justin at the McDonald’s restaurant they would havd noticed if he there were any unusual marks on his body. There must have been some blood splatter left on the killer after the assault occurred.

OCDP brought in a team of scientists to help them determine exactly how long Jaymie had been dead after her body was left on the dirt bike trail.

An entomologist’s knowledge of bugs is very useful in murder investigations. As the body goes through various stages of decomposition, different types of insects are attracted to it.

http://www.news9.com/story/16517858...lice-in-investigation-of-blanchard-moms-death

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/NEWS9/PDF/1208/adams.pdf

 

[Crosby87]

ok. thank you for that. i'm just still trying to wrap my head around all of this.

When Inas Yacoub performed Jaymie’s autopsy on January 9th, he found a body line on the back, and in his opinion, it looked like it had been lying in fluid; so did he immediately notify the investigators working on this case and tell them? Did he run a test on the fluid so they would know what it was and where it came from?
He knew it was a homicide so he should have immediately informed the investigators working on the case and in this way work effectively as a team.

Inas Yacoub performed the autopsy on January 9th and signed his report on August 21, 2012 and it doesn’t say what the fluid is and what the line on the body suggests to him and I think this is an important clue.

Is there really a lake near the dirt bike trail where Jaymie’s body was found – Lake Stanley Draper? I heard there’s an airport base out there so there could be vacant buildings out there concealing evidence.

AFAIK, LE did not search for evidence in the field where Jaymie’s body was found or the landfill after they searched the vehicles and I don’t think it’s because they found any physical evidence to convict Justin with and so imo, the state knows Justin is innocent.

Irven Box said LE have another suspect but the prosecution said they need more time to build a case against Justin which imo is not possible.

Justin didn’t tell police about the domestic problems he and his wife were having and that’s why they aren’t dropping his charges imo.

 

[Shamrocker99]

This is one majorly crazy case!!! I would love it if LE would put out an official timeline, backed up by actual electronic records, of the calls/texts involved! At this point I really don't have a solid belief as to who killed Jaymie.

 

[bluerain]

seems to me they've really screwed up this case. they keep pulling out further because they have no physical evidence. The husband looks bad, I don't know if he did but I'm sure he could have. He's a douche that only cares about himself. Cyr could have, not much of a good guy either if he's picking up prostitutes doesn't matter he lived with some one. I don't think anyone will ever know who really killed her. Prostitution is dangerous and Jaymie seemed to have made some bad choices herself. also they rather allude to her being there a short time, like some one moved an animal chewed, maggot filled corpse. There is a lake there not sure how far and it was the middle of winter. how busy is that bike trail that time of the year and how far from the track was she? Will have to wait till jan ( a whole year later) for even the preliminary hearing.

 

[Crosby87]

Adams was stabbed at least 29 times, including four times in the head, so whoever committed this crime would have multiple cuts on their hands according to medical examiner, forensic pathologist, Dr. Dupre.

“When somebody is stabbing another person very rapidly, their hand slips off the grip of the knife and they actually cut themselves many times.”

I don’t think Justin moved Jaymie’s body to the dirt bike trail because he didn’t have a vehicle and he was under surveillance after he reported his wife missing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1211/19/ng.01.html

 

[StormyNights]

Adams was stabbed at least 29 times, including four times in the head, so whoever committed this crime would have multiple cuts on their hands according to medical examiner, forensic pathologist, Dr. Dupre.

“When somebody is stabbing another person very rapidly, their hand slips off the grip of the knife and they actually cut themselves many times.”

I don’t think Justin moved Jaymie’s body to the dirt bike trail because he didn’t have a vehicle and he was under surveillance after he reported his wife missing.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1211/19/ng.01.html

I am a little lost here. You talked about Jaymie's murder, but the transcripts are for the Jeffery Pyne case. Did I miss something. Do these murders tie together somehow? Sorry in advance if I am mistaken! Please forgive me if I am wrong lease::blushing:

 

[Crosby87]

I am a little lost here. You talked about Jaymie's murder, but the transcripts are for the Jeffery Pyne case. Did I miss something. Do these murders tie together somehow? Sorry in advance if I am mistaken! Please forgive me if I am wrong lease::blushing:

Yes, these two murders do tie together because in both cases the victims were repeatedly stabbed with a knife.

I wanted to know what wounds you would expect to find on a person’s hands who stabbed someone repeatedly and Dr. Dupre answered this crucial question when he discussed the Pyne case with Nancy Grace.

Dr. Dupre: “When somebody is stabbing another person very rapidly, their hand slips off the grip of the knife and they do actually cut themselves many times.”.

These are the type of wounds you would expect to find on the palm and fingers of the person who murdered Jaymie. You cannot hide your hands and LE would notice if Justin’s hands were freshly cut. If they were, the prosecution would have some evidence connecting Justin to the crime, but the prosecution have no such evidence according to Justin’s lawyer, Irven Box.

Knife wounds hurt too and are very sore. LE would be able to see faint scars on the hands days and even weeks later so this helps prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Justin did not murder his wife and is innocent imo.

 

[StormyNights]

Yes, these two murders do tie together because in both cases the victims were repeatedly stabbed with a knife.

I wanted to know what wounds you would expect to find on a person’s hands who stabbed someone repeatedly and Dr. Dupre answered this crucial question when he discussed the Pyne case with Nancy Grace.

Dr. Dupre: “When somebody is stabbing another person very rapidly, their hand slips off the grip of the knife and they do actually cut themselves many times.”.

These are the type of wounds you would expect to find on the palm and fingers of the person who murdered Jaymie. You cannot hide your hands and LE would notice if Justin’s hands were freshly cut. If they were, the prosecution would have some evidence connecting Justin to the crime, but the prosecution have no such evidence according to Justin’s lawyer, Irven Box.

Knife wounds hurt too and are very sore. LE would be able to see faint scars on the hands days and even weeks later so this helps prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Justin did not murder his wife and is innocent imo.

Ah, thank you for making me see the light! I actually caught the Justin Pyne case on NG last night. Of course they are saying it was blisters, but I fully believe those wounds could of come from a knife slipping from the murderers hands. Thank you for clarifying for me

 

[Crosby87]

Ah, thank you for making me see the light! I actually caught the Justin Pyne case on NG last night. Of course they are saying it was blisters, but I fully believe those wounds could of come from a knife slipping from the murderers hands. Thank you for clarifying for me

You're welcome. This would be the case only if the person who killed Jaymie didn't wear gloves, but this is good information to have.

If Justin committed this crime, LE would definitely have ALL the evidence they need to convict him.

I think one of Jaymie's clients intended to kill her that night and so, he may have worn gloves so he wouldn't cut his hands with the knife.

 

[nvrforgtn]

I was Black Friday shopping last night in Oklahoma City, sitting in a parking lot waiting for the store to open, and Justin Adams parked next to me. He even had on the same blue, zip-up hoodie he wore leaving jail. There was a female, looked to be around his age, in the car with him. When we saw him in the store, he was looking at golf clubs. I'm still a little freaked out.

 

[bluerain]

All he does is the little part time national gaurd and play golf. That girl is probably his girlfriend as mentioned in reports. His grandmother supports him and raises his son. He won't even change a diaper or get a job to help His grandmother support them. He may not have done the deed but he sure doesn't care for anyone but himself. Any comments he makes about his wife sound like he's trying to hard to seem like he actually cares.

 

[lewalters]

Prelim hearing date is approaching again. Its this Wednesday. I hope they have all their ducks in a row.

http://www.oscn.net/applications/os...=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2832671&db=Oklahoma

 

[lewalters]

Someone has to be thinking what in the world is OKCPD doing?


http://m.koco.com/news/Attorney-Jus...d/-/17423340/18063178/-/da9twm/-/index.htmlom

 

[nursebeeme]

Someone has to be thinking what in the world is OKCPD doing?


http://m.koco.com/news/Attorney-Jus...d/-/17423340/18063178/-/da9twm/-/index.htmlom

also says his ankle monitor has been removed

hmmmm:waitasec:

 

[cocomod]

Someone has to be thinking what in the world is OKCPD doing?


http://m.koco.com/news/Attorney-Jus...d/-/17423340/18063178/-/da9twm/-/index.htmlom

Wow! Rescheduled for April!