OK OK - Molly Miller, 17, & Colt Haynes, 21, Wilson, 7 July 2013 - #1

[OkieGranny]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 1

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

H: [T]onight we're going to be focusing on Colt Haynes. We've covered Molly's story and, bless their hearts, the Millers have called in and, as always, both families whenever they call in get first priority. Whatever's going on gets dropped. They get, they come on the air and they handle it. And, um, I'm going to go ahead and bring Colt's sisters on so I can explain this story. Um, uh, are y'all there? Jamie and Monique, are you all there?

MHS: Yes.

JHM: Um, I'm here. I'm J, Colt's oldest sister.

H: Oh, okay.

MHS: I'm M. I'm the, well, old, old, I'm older than him.

H: Uh, well, I think we're all older than him. Uh, I think I'm older than all of y'all. Uh, first of all, I would, I would like to thank y'all very much for calling in tonight. I really do appreciate it and, um, like I've said before, I've said it on Facebook, I've told y'all before and I've mentioned it here on BlogTalk radio countless times, y'all have first priority on my show, on any of my shows that I'm on. Y'all call in if there's something you…

JHM: We appreciate you too. We appreciate you having us on your show.

H: Oh, it's, it's no problem at all. You know, I've made, um, I've made comments before, you know, because in private I've been accused of trying to make this all about me, and it isn't. You know, I am extending everything I can to both families. I've got a couple of things working in the background that only a few people know about. I'm not even sure if I've told Monique yet. Um, it's something I can't go public with because I don't know all the details but, when I do, y'all are going to be the first to find out and I guarantee this is going to be awesome. Um…

JHM: We appreciate it so much.

H: Oh, it's, it's the very, very least I can do. I mean, y'all have been fighting hell uphill, you know, ever since this entire ordeal began. Um, but let me give a quick background…

<snip> (reads the summary paragraph from the Justice for Colt! Facebook page)

H: Now, uh, I'm pretty sure y'all recognize what was read, but those, uh, those words are directly off of Justice for Colt! And that is a brief description or review of what happened the night they went missing.

JHM: Yes, that's, that the description of what happened. Now, the, the driver has supposedly been brought in for questioning and he immediately requested a lawyer, so he has not given any cooperation or answers at all. He denies having been in the car in the first place.

H: Uh, see, that was one thing I was a little unsure about, and what I try to say on the show is things I've either heard directly from one of the families or seen directly put on, by the families on the Facebook. I try not to repeat anything else.

JHM: Yeah. Uh, uh…

H: Because I don't want to spread misinformation.

JHM: I was told by a Wilson police officer that he was brought in for questioning and immediately requested a lawyer and therefore, um, and would no longer answer any questions. So he, they did not get any information or cooperation from him whatsoever.

H: Now, does Carter County have any jurisdiction over this? Because, the way I see it, that's where the stolen car was found, that's where the chase ended, and that was the last known contact from Colt, was in Carter County. Do they, are they claiming they have no jurisdiction?

MHS: Love County. Love County.

H: Or Love County. Oh, Love County. What did I say, Carter?

JHM: They found the car in Love County.

H: Oh, I'm sorry. What did I say? Carter County?

MHS: Yep.

JHM: Yeah, um, the fellow lives in Carter County, but all the other stuff happened in Love County. Is that right, M?

MHS: No, he lives in Love County. It all happened in Love County. The chase started in Carter, and everything else happened in Love County.

H: Okay, now, that store, uh, I mean, I've only been to Wilson a handful of times. Um, the store they were at, where he did the donut, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't that at a convenience store?

MHS: Um, I'm not exactly sure on that. I believe it was, but, there by the bank, but I never really got a clear answer on exactly where it was at.

H: Okay, so, because, you know, I was going to say if there were any type of cameras anywhere around, that they could place, you know, whoever was behind the wheel and whoever was in the car. They could do that fairly easy. Um, so, on the car itself, we're going to be getting more in depth on the things that happened after the chase, you know? I'm just trying to answer, you know, quick questions people that may be new to this may have. The car itself, that car was reported stolen 6:30 in the morning following the chase.

JHM: Yes.

H: Is that correct?

MHS: Yes.

JHM: Yes.

H: And this car, in my opinion, wasn't exactly stolen. The car in question...

JHM: I don't believe it was. Um, the person who owned the car was a known friend of the suspect.

H: Now, I understood that they were in a relationship. Is that inaccurate?

JHM: I'm not for certain.

MHS: Well, from what I understand they were. But I'm not…

JHM: But when I first...

H: Okay, um, yeah, that's what I was understanding.

JHM: I understand they were.

JHM: Yeah, well, her and his sister are best friends also.

 

[2Hope4]

TY Grannie!! I was listening to that earlier, and my husband started listening...he was asking me a thousand questions to which I had no answers! Finally told him to hush and let me finish listening. Sooo Colt isn't listed as a missing persons, LE think he just went away on his own, with the broken ankle.

 

[OkieGranny]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 2

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

H: Oh, okay, so there was a known relationship, either being a platonic or, you know, um, a romantic relationship. There was at least a relationship between the two.

JHM: Yes.

MHS: Yes.

H: Okay, so they did know each other. Now, um, were you provided any kind of (unintelligible) details on the car? Because I understand, you know, there may be things you can't say and, and maybe even things the police, you know, did try to keep private so they can help identify a suspect later down the road.

JHM: Well, it seems like every agency we have talked to had a different story. One says it's completely clean and the next one said they found this and this in the car.

H: Okay, so no one's even giving you a real straight answer on what was found in the car, if anything.

JHM: Correct.

H: Okay, now, have you heard, happened to have heard if the steering column had been busted?

JHM: I did not hear that.

H: Because common sense will tell you if that, uh, column was busted, the car was stolen. If it was intact, it was loaned to him.

MHS: From what I understand (unintelligible) left in it.

JHM: They didn't say. They said that the condition it was in, it was still probably drivable.

H: Oh, okay, all right, all right.

JHM: Um, the other thing I've heard said they found some of her items in the car, and then someone else, another agency turned around and said there was nothing in the car, no fingerprints, no anything, so&#8230;

<snip> (technical issues with the broadcast)

H: Um, now, moving on, after the chase, you know, well, we can't establish what condition the car was in because, like you said, some agencies have said that the car was clean. That's the only story I've heard. I haven't heard anything about there being anything in the vehicle. You know, all the accounts I've heard was that it was wiped clean, the car was totally cleaned out, you know, and just nothing was found with the car. And this is the first I've ever heard of anything feeing found in it.

JHM: Right when it happened, um, one of the Love County police officers&#8230; I ran into him on one of the back roads. I was driving while I was looking for Colt, and he, you know, we had stopped so many times he pulled over to see what, if we needed any assistance or what was going on. And he told me his son worked at the Lone Grove Police Department and that they had pulled in the car and they found her purse and her ID in the car. That's what he told me. I don't have a report that says that, but the police officer told, personally told me that they had found her ID and her purse in the car.

H: Oh, wow, I...

JHM: So that was the very first story I got about the car. So...

H: Now, did they find any of his belongings?

JHM: Uh, I hadn't heard anything about that. I don't know if M heard anything about that, but that police officer didn't tell me that. He did tell me there were some papers in there, that he didn't know what they were, um, but his son told me that her ID and her purse were in the car. So...

H: Oh, okay.

JHM: &#8230; that's, that's all he told me, um, and that Lone Grove had it, had the car at the time, but that was a long time ago that he told me that. That was before I'd heard anything else about the car. That was right after they recovered the car.

H: Oh, all right. Um, I mean, I just can't, you know, just can't believe all the different stories being told out there. You know, even the families being told different stories. That's just completely unbelievable.

JHM: Yeah, yeah. Different police officers are telling different stories. And I'm sure he told me that not knowing that they weren't supposed to tell that stuff for some, for some unknown reason. I guess they were probably trying not to disclose that information and somehow it got out before they decided they weren't going to share.

H: Okay, so they had a good idea that she was missing and, or that both of them were missing and endangered, basically from the get-go.

JHM: Yes.

H: Okay, because didn't it, what, take them like two, three weeks, uh, before they took them off the runaway list?

MHS: Well, they never, they never put Colt on any kind of list. I went in&#8230;

JHM: He'd gone missing...

MHS: &#8230;and filed his missing persons report. And they have a warrant, a warrant out for his arrest.

JHM: &#8230; (unintelligible) the report, too.

MHS: Yeah.

H: Now, now, I'm sorry, y'all were talking over each other. I didn't understand both of you.

JHM: Sorry.

H: Oh, that's fine.

MHS: Okay, so they didn't, I filed his missing persons report. They didn't put anything out on him. Um, they didn't even file the report until a week after I went in and made it, and now all they have out on him is a warrant.

JHM: They don't have him listed as a missing person.

H: Oh, okay, all right.

JHM: They said he's over, he's 21 and they are not going to look for him, is what I've been told.

H: So that they're just going to, you know, just act like he went off on his own somewhere, even under this&#8230;

JHM: Yeah.

H: So even now he's not listed, listed as endangered. He's just listed as not around.

JHM: Yes. He's just, um, they're just looking for him on warrants. That's, that's the only thing that would cause them to pursue him at all.

 

[OkieGranny]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 3

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

H: That's, that's something right there. Um, so, they didn't even, weren't even worried about him until y'all filed a missing persons report on him. Um, and they didn't even put&#8230;

JHM: Apparently they're still not worried about him. They are only, they're looking for Molly but, she was under eighteen, but it took a long time for them to decide to actively look for her too. They had her, calling her a runaway for a long time.

H: So they just had this idea or theory that they just got up and ran away together.

JHM: Yes.

H: Even given everything. Oh, that's&#8230; I don't...

JHM: Yes. All the information that you have said was, you know, they knew all that stuff when they decided they were just runaways. They knew all that stuff.

H: Every time I hear that it (unintelligible).

JHM: We came to them with the phone calls and stuff.

H: Okay, um, now, in the listing, it says that, or in the description I read, it said that y'all's, or that the last known contact with Colt was that he was calling, uh, that he had called somebody saying that he was lost on Pike Road, was it?

JHM: Yes.

MHS: Yes.

H: And his ankle was broken. Um, did the, were either one of y'all the person he called or was it someone else?

MHS: It was someone else. But I talked directly&#8230;

JHM: Now, neither one of us knew...

MHS: &#8230; to two other people&#8230;

H: Uh, okay, I thought you talked directly...

JHM: It was someone else and they failed to, yeah, well, and those people failed to notify us immediately. I mean, it was a while afterwards before they came forward and said he had called them.

H: And did they not go out there and, uh, did they, did anybody go out there to look for either one of them? You know, because...

JHM: Yes, they did.

H: &#8230; I understand both of them were trying to call for, trying to call for rides.

JHM: Yes, they did. Um, actually another person unrelated that doesn't know anyone involved, uh, commented on one of the fellows that had received a phone call driving in her yard with a four-wheeler, looking for him. So they went out looking for him.

H: Okay, so somebody did go out looking for him.

JHM: Yes.

H: Okay, because I had heard one story that someone had been knocking on a door asking, have you seen my friend?

MHS: No, he wasn't knocking on the&#8230;

H: And that that person had&#8230;

MHS: Uh, no, he wasn't knocking on the door. He just, he was in their yard at three something in the morning and the owner of the house come out and he said he was looking for his friend. Now, I didn't talk to this guy. I talked to two of the guys that he had called, uh, two of the other guys he had called and they told me the same story, that Colt had called and he was freaking out. Said that he was lost between Pike and Long Hollow Road in the woods and that his ankle was broken, the bone was sticking out, and they kept asking him if he could look up and, you know, see anything in the sky and he said I can't see an effin' thing. You know, I don't know which way is up and down. I don't know if he had hit his head or what had happened that he was disoriented, but they said he was pretty agitated and sounded scared and, and they both told me the same exact story so&#8230;

H: So there'd be no reason to really doubt them.

MHS: Exactly. And it, their story hasn't changed. I question them. I make them tell me the story over and over and over again and it does not waver, not one single bit.

JHM: The lady whose yard they were driving in, she didn't know them and she didn't know us either. She just somehow happened across the story on Facebook and told us about the incident she'd had in her yard that morning, at like 3:00 in the morning. So, I mean, that's the only way that, and that, you know, that goes back to telling us the story is true also that they went and looked for him because she doesn't know anybody involved and so she would have no reason to fabricate that story.

H: Okay, you, because that's one question I'd always had on my mind. You know, did anybody get up and go look for him? Because I've heard stories that the last known contact from Molly was that 911 phone call. I've heard other accounts saying, no, that she was calling and texting friends, and then the family saying, you know, well, we know those weren't from her.

JHM: Whaaat?

H: You know, you know&#8230;

MHS: I, I do know, uh, one guy told me that he talked to her at six, a little after six that morning, uh, because he was on his way to work. And he said it was definitely her. I asked him several times if he was sure and he said, yes, it was Molly that I talked to. So I don't know if they just haven't talked to him or if, you know, he hasn't&#8230;

JHM: Well, he, yeah, he said she called him and asked him what he was doing and he said he was on his way to work and asked her what she was doing and she said, oh, I'm over here on Long Hollow Road with Colt. And he said Colt who? And she said Colt Haynes. And he said, oh, well, I'm on my way to work so I'll just let you go. And he said, if I had've known she was in any kind of trouble or needed help of any kind I wouldn't have, you know, just blew her off like that, but she didn't act like there was anything wrong. He said, I immediately had told her I was on my work to work, though, so, you know, maybe she tried to call somebody else to give her a ride, thinking that, you know, he's on his way to work, I'll just call someone else.

H: You know, well, also at the same time, she may not have known there might have been any, you know&#8230;

JHM: Danger.

H: &#8230; looming, lurking danger.

JHM: That's what I said. She may not have realized, you know, how much danger she was actually in at the time, or how close she was to losing the rest of her battery or, you know. If she had realized how much danger she was in, she would have sounded picnicked, I'm sure. But I'm sure at the time she had no idea&#8230;

H: Hey, you know, we need to get out of here now.

JHM: Yeah, what kind of predicament she had herself in.

 

[Hatfield]

Thanks to OkieGranny for all the great transcripts and keeping us up to date. Thanks also to everyone for their insightful comments.

The latest news does sound like a little progress is finally being made. Lets hope it continues moving forward to find out where they are.

I continue to take certain things with a grain of salt. Like we all know most girls would never leave their purse in a vehicle. That part sounds very scary if it was indeed found in the vehicle. I need to keep reading the transcipt, but if it was found in the vehicle, then Molly's family should be able to either get possession of it OR at a minimum be able to look at it to verify it was hers. If her family has not seen it yet, they should demand through a lawyer to be able to at least look at it. If nothing else, to prove they did find it and that it was hers. Scary stuff indeed.

 

[windstorm]

I'm confused. Colt is on Namus as a missing person. Why would the sisters not know that?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21192/0/

 

[Hatfield]

Very interesting. If we are to believe the phone calls from Colt to his friends and also from Molly to the person that was going to work, then I am a litle more encouraged that they at least survived the car wreck. But I agree with the host of the show that danger was still there for them for a host of reasons.

First, their injuries could have been severe and they may have needed quick medical attention.
Seondly, they were out in the sticks and could still become lost with no food or water.
Thirdly, and most dangerous to me is that people that may have been very upset with them may have still been looking for them. Like LE, the 3rd person that was in the car, the land owner where the car was wrecked, or even other land owners that were upset with all the commotion of cars racing up and down their roads the previous late night/morning hours. There could have been a lot of angry people wanting to find them.

I do hope they are just hiding with friends thinking they are in trouble. That seems to me to be the best outcome and so I hope that is what this turns out to be. But until they turn up, I still worry it could be a much worse situation. It seems if they were just hiding out, they would have at least contacted family or friends by now to let them know they are safe, which is why I worry that is not the case.

I will keep praying for the best for them.

 

[OkieGranny]

I'm confused. Colt is on Namus as a missing person. Why would the sisters not know that?

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21192/0/

That listing was not necessarily entered by LE. Family members can also submit their missing loved ones to NamUs, as long as LE will verify that the person has been reported missing. If you'll notice, there are no case numbers listed for any of the investigating agencies, which is unusual and kind of a clue to me that none of the LE agencies listed were the ones who submitted this profile.

I don't know that for a fact but it is my best guess.

 

[windstorm]

That listing was not necessarily entered by LE. Family members can also submit their missing loved ones to NamUs, as long as LE will verify that the person has been reported missing. If you'll notice, there are no case numbers listed for any of the investigating agencies, which is unusual and kind of a clue to me that none of the LE agencies listed were the ones who submitted this profile.

I don't know that for a fact but it is my best guess.

I know he's on Texas Equasearch, too. So, basically, LE verified that he's been reported missing. Therefore, he's on Namus. However, they aren't actually looking for him.

With nothing in the car, they don't even have evidence that he was there at all. So, they can't go that route.

The warrants are from missing his probation appointments the last 3 months.

 

[windstorm]

And, I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Molly's family is saying they don't believe it was her that used her phone after the 911 call. However, Colt's family is saying they talked to the guy she called at 6:00 am. He "knows" it was her that he talked to. I am assuming that he has talked to her frequently and knows her voice.

This is a small town where "everybody knows everybody else's business" so how has that not been shared with Molly's family? I find that really strange.

Going on that, it appears she was alive and didn't feel "in danger" at 6:00 am. I don't know about anybody else, but if I had been in the woods with somebody all night after a car crash and he had a broken ankle with the bone sticking out - once this guy answered the phone, I most definitely would have asked him for a ride! Or asked him to let somebody else know so they could give me a ride. I find it odd that she was in that situation and just said "oh, okay, talk to you later."

I think this puts another twist on this case.

 

[OkieGranny]

Transcript of Interview with Colt Haynes' Sisters, Part 4

Listen to the interview here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/newcolo...t-do-you-think

Key to the participants:

H: Host
MHS: Colt's older sister
JHM: Colt's oldest sister

(This is a slightly cleaned-up version, edited for readability. The raw version has been kept intact in a separate file.)

H: Right. Um, now, did either one of them, to y'all's knowledge, ever make contact with anybody saying that they were being followed, they were being chased, because… ?

JHM: No. I didn't hear anything about any of that.

H: Oh, okay. So the last known contact was that they were lost in the woods between Pike and Long Hollow Road, which is right in the middle of their, right in the middle of their properties. Right in the middle of it.

JHM: Yes. And it's really, it's a pretty dense area and really, uh, it's not level terrain at all. There's lots and lots of creeks and things all through there that are not even, even traversed. Because we couldn't have taken four-wheelers or anything through there.

H: Oh, you wouldn't have even been able to get four-wheelers down in that area.

JHM: Well, I know they, they've flown, you know, the cops say they've done aerial searches for them and stuff, but the foliage was so thick, they wouldn't be able to see them probably anyway.

H: Right, right, they were probably just, you know, looking for some kind of movement. You know, that would seem out of the….

JHM: Anything, you know...

H: Yeah. Um, well, I was not planning on going to (unintelligible). I'm just having like a hundred questions popping up in my mind. I'm trying to organize them right now. Um, so, neither one of them had established a, you know, some kind of final point danger saying help, I'm being chased or… Is there… ?

JHM: Huh-uh.

H: Um, I'm not being, I'm not being critical. I'm just trying to, you know, answer questions for myself at this point, because I'm trying to piece things together, you know, a constructive timeline on this. Um, is there any type of evidence or any type of anything anybody is saying that has said that their last known, that their last known was with the driver? You see what I'm saying?

JHM: Yes. Yes, uh, yeah, it's kind of fishy that they were, that they would have been with him anyway, because Colt, him and Colt were known to be not friends. They, they were not at all friends. And so it's kind of odd that they were in the same vehicle together in the first place. But he has been, he, to mutual friends of ours he has, you know, said that he was with them.

H: Oh, okay, all right. All right. Um...

JHM: He will not, he will not come publicly say that. He will not say anything in front of the cops. He has been heard to say many, many comments about not wanting to go to jail and things of that nature.

H: Right, um...

JHM: But that is, I haven't heard him directly from his mouth, so it is hearsay.

H: Right.

JHM: So, but I, I do believe they were in the car with him.

H: Oh, oh, of course, of, course. Um, I was…

JHM: Yeah. But there's no actual physical evidence, besides what was, what they say was or wasn't in the car.

H: Right. Well, if they knew, you know, that Colt and Molly were in the car, and…

JHM: Yeah.

H: … there's enough, there's enough connections to say that that other person was in the vehicle too. See?

JHM: Yeah.

H: If, and, just, just using, um, common reasoning, if they were out in the woods after this, you know, there… I mean, if I got in trouble, you know, I've been in trouble before. If I was in trouble with my buddies, with my friends, and something happened, they wouldn't be, you know, trying to (unintelligible) somewhere. We'd all be together and be trying to find rides.

JHM: Yeah.

H: You know, especially in that kind of area...

JHM: Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of little stuff. Um, like, she didn't pick up her last work check. A person that age, if they're running off, they would have picked up their check on the way out.

H: Yeah, they would.

JHM: She never did pick that up. Um, he hasn't called to check on his child, and he's been in trouble a few times and he has always called M. He has never failed to call his sister, uh, even if he was in some kind of trouble.

H: Right.

JHM: Especially if he was in some kind of trouble. Um, because she's never failed to help him out. So there's no reason for him to hide from her.

H: And there's… You know, you, because what we're doing right now, you know, I'm not trying to doubt y'all, you know, I'm not doubting y'all one bit. I'm just trying to establish that he is missing. He did not run off voluntarily. Something that night happened in that woods, and they were…

JHM: Yes.

H: … and they were trying to get away from this individual, and this individual knows their exact whereabouts at this very moment, and he's not saying anything.

JHM: Yes.

H: Um, has there been any type of evidence that he, that as of right now that he is okay, or that either one of them are okay? Is there been anything leading to that? You know, like, um, maybe a strange text message from either one of their phones or something on Facebook or some type of sighting? Is there anything that, you know, that people can grasp onto to say that they are okay or they're in some situation that they just can't get out of right now? Has there been anything?

JHM: No.

MHS: Uh, no, they actually, they actually reassigned Colt's phone number to somebody else because it was, it was a GoPhone, you know, so somebody else has his number now.

JHM: Yeah, we've been...

H: All right.

JHM: And now you reach a stranger because they have assigned his phone number to someone else's phone now.

MHS: Yes.

JHM: And that's long enough to have reassigned it.

 

[OkieGranny]

And, I'm still trying to figure all of this out. Molly's family is saying they don't believe it was her that used her phone after the 911 call. However, Colt's family is saying they talked to the guy she called at 6:00 am. He "knows" it was her that he talked to. I am assuming that he has talked to her frequently and knows her voice.

This is a small town where "everybody knows everybody else's business" so how has that not been shared with Molly's family? I find that really strange.

Going on that, it appears she was alive and didn't feel "in danger" at 6:00 am. I don't know about anybody else, but if I had been in the woods with somebody all night after a car crash and he had a broken ankle with the bone sticking out - once this guy answered the phone, I most definitely would have asked him for a ride! Or asked him to let somebody else know so they could give me a ride. I find it odd that she was in that situation and just said "oh, okay, talk to you later."

I think this puts another twist on this case.

Yes, these are things I keep turning over and over again in my head, too. Regarding the possible phone call from Molly that morning, only one of her cousins expressly stated that she did not believe Molly made that that call. The other cousin seemed more open to the possibility. That was how I read the situation. Of course, we really have no way of knowing who they have spoken to or whether they felt the person reporting that call was a reliable source.

I can understand Colt sounding agitated in his phone calls; he was lost in the woods with a bone sticking out of his leg, but why would Molly have sounded so calm, like there was nothing wrong, in the call she allegedly made? I can't make sense of it.

Very interesting to get the two families' different perspectives.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Hello all------I am so late to the party but am catching up. I hope I can give some thoughts of value------

2Hope4---your post at 103---- I wondered that as well--these three are "not really friends". Who got them together--why were they together that night--had they ever gone out as a group before--what does the ex-gf/baby momma know?????

And THE CAR (sigh--reminds me of Robert Mayer case)--- to whom did it belong--when was it reported stolen/missing if it was at all? ANyone else think a "phone call" was made saying that "Hey if you happen to see it, tell so&so to bring it home please?"

 

[hot cawfeee]

Yeah, a bit confusing, I have to agree. I spent all of Sunday evening trying to track down a specific piece of info I KNOW I saw on there (finally did find it!).

I was blown away by LE telling the family that fingerprints evaporate. WTH?

shaking my head, cleaning off my glasses----WHAT????? Oh hell no!!!!
I think we need Nancy Grace-stat!!!!!!

 

[hot cawfeee]

Hey Windstorm!!! Awesome timeline love-- thank you!!!!!!!!!

What was the content of the text messages and to whom were they sent?? Anyone receive more than one text??????? Same for phone calls from Colt----who did he call and what else was said????

Has LE spoken with the ex-gf/baby momma??? Its been three months---he had to have told her something.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Thank you windstorm and okiegranny for all your work!!! You both rock!

So, with the ground samples (if they were taken and taken properly) --- anyone know how long those results would take to get back?!

This is an interesting article I came across while looking for the answer to the question I just posted lol It's about looking underground for bodies, weapons, etc
http://www.physics.org/featuredetail.asp?id=59

Hey Stacy--- does anyone know what kind of animals are common to the area??? I think crows like to scavenge for shiny things like earrings and coins.
I am wondering if there are any carrion birds (I think thats the kind I want---eat flesh rather than grubs and worms).
I dont guess that family would permit hunters on the land??? Its coming on hunting season.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Yes, and no.

The only evidence they have that something terrible happened on that night is the 911 call, that Molly must have said something, because they are saying that WAS her making that call, but the 33 text messages/calls after that weren't her. They have the driver making comments about not wanting to go to jail, but again, is he just covering for them so they can be somewhere together? Just shooting the bull to make people think he's so big and bad? Or did he really do something to them? "IF" he made a comment to family stating he did something, and they didn't beat the truth outta him right then and there, again, I say they have more patience and will power than I do. And wouldn't those statements be enough for a search warrant? Someone claims they have injured or killed someone, and that person is missing, seems to me it would be enough for them to act.

There's a few things I don't like, and referencing to the media reports, and family statements on the fb page. Multiple comments about not being able to search the land, however, from reading other reports, the land was searched in the beginning. And while corruption runs deep, would the entire family, and community lie to cover up for a known drug dealer? Doubtful. Not sure about Molly, but Colt and the driver both have multiple convictions. Small town, so I'm sure most know about them. So back to a post I made earlier, why was Molly with them? I haven't looked to see if she has a record, well nevermind, just remembered she's 17, so it's likely juvenile if she does, and wouldn't be able to see it.

This is going on 4 months though, and evidence is deteriorating each day!

Its a thought-----I wondered if she was known to change her appearance alot b/c her hair looks dyed to me so maybe she changes it up frequently.
I wondered where she had been if her family had not heard from since late June---was there an estrangement? Also- perhaps she and Colt witnessed something or were threatened sufficiently to make them stay out of sight.
They neither have phone cords to power their phones if they actually still have them.

 

[hot cawfeee]

OK---another question (shocking yes but my cawfee is kicking in)----is there a house, stable, garage or any type of structure on the land?? Would searching the land entitle LE to search any structure contained on the property? And a little out of left field-but what the hell---is there anyting on the land thatmight be disturbed by a search? Nothing nefarious but--oil , vegetation, mineral deposits, wild-life.

 

[windstorm]

Cawfee has had cawfee! Welcome to the party!

Lots of hinky things with this case. I do not know what texts were sent and to whom. Only that there were 33 "communications" from Molly's cell phone throughout that night until it went dead/was destroyed.

Your other questions....no idea for sure! Exasperating to say the least.

Any thoughts on the whole Love County sheriff, nephew, meth ring, etc cluster?

 

[hot cawfeee]

purple honda---little flashy no??? Could it out run a police car? And if it was being used to "transport" things wouldn't you use a different car? Something very non-descript that doesn't attract attention?