OK - Mother and stepfather charged after 11-year old girl gives birth at home - MUSKOGEE, Aug 2025

  • #141
Does the mother just pop a baby out each year? Can she not be just put on birth control?
This can only be done if she wants it. However, it doesn't look like she is going to need it any more, considering where she'll likely spend the rest of her life.
 
  • #142
Grandma's FB alludes to a few topics we have been wondering about.
* The 11-year-old and probably the next oldest child do seem to be from at least one relationship (possibly 2) that CW had prior to her marriage to DW (the step-father)
* CW was involved in custody disputes with the 11-year-old's biological father several years ago (so, at least at that time, she had a father who was interested enough to go to court). Grandma disparages his character but she's not a reliable source as far as I'm concerned
* In 2017, the first two kids were attending school. Based on their ages at that time, it was preschool (or maybe just daycare)
* There's also evidence that the kids went to the dentist and that they sought emergency medical attention for smaller issues in the past

Grandma has a lot less to say about the children than she used to. This part is purely my speculation, but I think things went severely downhill after CW became involved with DW.
BBM:
It appears that the biological father was not seeing his daughter during this horrific timeline.
Most 10-11 yr old children have access to electronic communication but seeing the filth-pit these children lived in I doubt they had access to the internet/phones.

Even if she had some type of communication with the bio-father or any member(s) of his family she was probably much too petrified to tell them of the abuse by the step-father and her changing body.

The evil trinity are expected to have additional charges forthcoming and as unspeakably difficult it may be for the 11 yr old girl to speak about the actions/roles her step-father, mother and g'mother played throughout hopefully with loving support she is able to give authorities all the evidence needed to charge and convict all 3 to life in prison w/o parole.
There's no room for any mercy.
Full stop.

IMO
 
  • #143
  • #144
That is so irresponsible, imo ===they have 2, 4,6, 7, 9 and 11 year old children, and get pregnant again.

But they have no running water for 2 years, no one cleans up the animal feces on the floors, the 11 yr old comes up pregnant, and they decide they need to have child number 7?
Does anyone know how many children CW already had before having children with DW?
 
  • #145
Does anyone know how many children CW already had before having children with DW?
I only know that the oldest two are fathered by the same father as each other an the other ones are not . an I only half know that . but ..imo..
 
  • #146
This can only be done if she wants it. However, it doesn't look like she is going to need it any more, considering where she'll likely spend the rest of her life.
I'm aware that she would have to want it, what I'm saying is a law needs to enacted to keep people like this from reproducing. Too many innocent children don't have a chance.
 
  • #147
Does anyone know how many children CW already had before having children with DW?
There's a picture of the second oldest, the boy, with his two parents in the hospital. I can't tell if it's DW, it could be him but a decade younger and slightly thinner. It's really scary looking at photos of the victim as a young child, I doubt the conditions even then were good, but she seemed to be fed and physically unharmed. Poor girl, I'm not sure I trust the grandmother's judgement on her father's character (considering how much of her Facebook is about Jesus and loving others and yet we know what she did) maybe her paternal family will be able to provide the type of home she needs. Poor baby, she deserves so so much better.
 
  • #148
I only know that the oldest two are fathered by the same father as each other an the other ones are not . an I only half know that . but ..imo..
Thanks, I thought that but wasn't sure.
 
  • #149
There's a picture of the second oldest, the boy, with his two parents in the hospital. I can't tell if it's DW, it could be him but a decade younger and slightly thinner. It's really scary looking at photos of the victim as a young child, I doubt the conditions even then were good, but she seemed to be fed and physically unharmed. Poor girl, I'm not sure I trust the grandmother's judgement on her father's character (considering how much of her Facebook is about Jesus and loving others and yet we know what she did) maybe her paternal family will be able to provide the type of home she needs. Poor baby, she deserves so so much better.
There's a photo from 2017 of a little girl with her younger brother and they are absolutely beautiful.

The grandmother has no credibility..zilch-nada-zero, now and forever.
imo
 
  • #150
I'm aware that she would have to want it, what I'm saying is a law needs to enacted to keep people like this from reproducing. Too many innocent children don't have a chance.
I understand where you're coming from but I would be worried about potential abuse of such a law. MOO
I don't want to write more because it would be off-topic.
 
  • #151
There's a picture of the second oldest, the boy, with his two parents in the hospital. I can't tell if it's DW, it could be him but a decade younger and slightly thinner. It's really scary looking at photos of the victim as a young child, I doubt the conditions even then were good, but she seemed to be fed and physically unharmed. Poor girl, I'm not sure I trust the grandmother's judgement on her father's character (considering how much of her Facebook is about Jesus and loving others and yet we know what she did) maybe her paternal family will be able to provide the type of home she needs. Poor baby, she deserves so so much better.
I'm certain that's him. The other woman featured as a grandmother has the surname Walker(found her going through DW's friends and friends of friends) and is married to a Walker on DW's friend's list. I don't believe the baby is his biological child.
 
  • #152
Grandma's FB alludes to a few topics we have been wondering about.
* The 11-year-old and probably the next oldest child do seem to be from at least one relationship (possibly 2) that CW had prior to her marriage to DW (the step-father)
* CW was involved in custody disputes with the 11-year-old's biological father several years ago (so, at least at that time, she had a father who was interested enough to go to court). Grandma disparages his character but she's not a reliable source as far as I'm concerned
* In 2017, the first two kids were attending school. Based on their ages at that time, it was preschool (or maybe just daycare)
* There's also evidence that the kids went to the dentist and that they sought emergency medical attention for smaller issues in the past

Grandma has a lot less to say about the children than she used to. This part is purely my speculation, but I think things went severely downhill after CW became involved with DW.
Great synopsis and I agree with your speculations.
 
  • #153
I gather that the baby lived and is in foster care?

Was the newborn also taken to the hospital by the evil parents to have it examined or did evil g'ma babysit?

It's a miracle that the child victim and I assume the baby survived.
imo
 
  • #154
'Ashleigh Banfield x Drop Dead Serious'

 
  • #155
People in power all over the world should really look into making homeschooling only accessible for people that know what they're doing so pedos don't have easier access to children. IMO. Truly despicable and I really hope with all my heart that the kids find loving home(s) ❤️
 
  • #156
People in power all over the world should really look into making homeschooling only accessible for people that know what they're doing so pedos don't have easier access to children. IMO. Truly despicable and I really hope with all my heart that the kids find loving home(s) ❤️
In the US any regulations have to go through your state legislature.
So it's the constituents putting pressure on their politicians then off to the state House/Senate for a vote on bills for regulations, additional regulations or no regulations.

Most homeschooling parents advocate against increased regulation.

A small minority of homeschooling parents and homeschooling graduates do/are advocating for increased oversight to protect children from educational neglect and all forms of abuse.
IMO
 
  • #157
Just wanted to pop in here & say that I hate to see this kind of news of a child giving birth and being abused like this.

However, I love to see people being held accountable for once. 👏
 
  • #158
For legislation to change, one would need to have evidence that children are less educations and at great safety risk being home schooled.

Given that 10% of children are harmed are harmed by a school staff (probs more because under reported) and the current amount of bullying and peer on peer assault, I’m not sure there are statistics to support that theory.

The model would need to compare abuse data, life skills data and educational data (both in a technical level and academic level).

The Nature and Scope of Educator Misconduct in K-12 - PubMed for school abuse stats

One could argue that these cases of abuse happen even when enrolled in school so it’s not about home schooled vs not for these cases (see 10 yr old Rebekah Baptiste) and additionally one could argue that oversight even within the school results in abuse so therefore isn’t helpful.

I do personally feel that all home school families should have some registration system but not sure it’s helpful. Even these extreme cases may just not register or acknowledge the children
 
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  • #159
For legislation to change, one would need to have evidence that children are less educations and at great safety risk being home schooled.

Given that 10% of children are harmed by a school staff (probs more because under reported) and the current amount of bullying and peer on peer assault, I’m not sure there are statistics to support that theory.

The model would need to compare abuse data, life skills data and educational data (both in a technical level and academic level).

The Nature and Scope of Educator Misconduct in K-12 - PubMed for school abuse stats

One could argue that these cases of abuse happen even when enrolled in school so it’s not about home schooled vs not for these cases (see 10 yr old Rebekah Baptiste) and additionally one could argue that oversight even within the school results in abuse so therefore isn’t helpful.

I do personally feel that all home school families should have some registration system but not sure it’s helpful. Even these extreme cases may just not register or acknowledge the children


Unless a child is initially registered in school then removed, or receiving medical care, or is involved in with some other oversight agency. How would they even know to check on the child’s welfare?

If in this case, she hadn’t went to the hospital. There would be no record this child. That’s very scary.
 
  • #160
For legislation to change, one would need to have evidence that children are less educations and at great safety risk being home schooled.

Given that 10% of children are harmed by a school staff (probs more because under reported) and the current amount of bullying and peer on peer assault, I’m not sure there are statistics to support that theory.

The model would need to compare abuse data, life skills data and educational data (both in a technical level and academic level).

The Nature and Scope of Educator Misconduct in K-12 - PubMed for school abuse stats

One could argue that these cases of abuse happen even when enrolled in school so it’s not about home schooled vs not for these cases (see 10 yr old Rebekah Baptiste) and additionally one could argue that oversight even within the school results in abuse so therefore isn’t helpful.

I do personally feel that all home school families should have some registration system but not sure it’s helpful. Even these extreme cases may just not register or acknowledge the children
Woah, 10%? I feel like that’s high!
 

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