OK - Nex Benedict, 16 year old student died after being beaten in school restroom, Owasso, Feb 8 2024

[imstilla.grandma]

OWASSO, Okla. — After Owasso High School student, Nex Benedict, died the day after being involved in a fight on school grounds, what seems like the world has been in an uproar on what happened the day of the fight and the day following when Nex died.

FOX23 spoke with Owasso Police about how they've received more than 600 inquiries from media in 10 different countries on Nex's death.

Besides the U.S., police said they've heard from reporters in Canada, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, India, Japan, Australia and New Zealand.

Owasso Police said the three most common questions they're receiving are:

1. Why did it take two weeks for OPD to put anything out?

Answer: OPD did not wait two weeks, we announced the student's death the night the student passed away.

2. Claim: OPD is in bed with the Medical Examiner's Office.

Answer: Here in Oklahoma, the ME is a state office and not connected to the City of Owasso or OPD.

3. If you're waiting on the toxicology, how can you give a preliminary cause of death?

Answer: Because the physical autopsy is complete, the Medical Examiner is waiting on the lab work results of the toxicology.

What We Know: The Nex Benedict case

FOX23 has been investigating the case and gathering information as it's been released by police, family and school officials. Learn what we know concerning the death of Nex Benedict.

www.fox23.com

 

[housewife]

They generally won't do an MRI in the ER. They do a CT. They're looking for blood. If there's minute amounts of blood, it could get missed until it becomes a bigger problem. No, you don't want to use contrast if you're checking for blood.

I want others to review the CT. Hopefully it will be reviewed again by another doctor now to ensure integrity at the hospital? Or would hospital lawyers prevent an internal review of their own staff?

Only asking because when a recently discharged patient unexpectedly dies, I thought they still do an internal review at the hospital.

To be clear, I'm not blaming anyone for misreading the image. I'm curious about the internal review process in medicine.

 

[housewife]

OWASSO, Okla. — After Owasso High School student, Nex Benedict, died the day after being involved in a fight on school grounds, what seems like the world has been in an uproar on what happened the day of the fight and the day following when Nex died.

FOX23 spoke with Owasso Police about how they've received more than 600 inquiries from media in 10 different countries on Nex's death.

Besides the U.S., police said they've heard from reporters in Canada, Ireland, Scotland, England, France, India, Japan, Australia and New Zealand.

Owasso Police said the three most common questions they're receiving are:

1. Why did it take two weeks for OPD to put anything out?

Answer: OPD did not wait two weeks, we announced the student's death the night the student passed away.

2. Claim: OPD is in bed with the Medical Examiner's Office.

Answer: Here in Oklahoma, the ME is a state office and not connected to the City of Owasso or OPD.

3. If you're waiting on the toxicology, how can you give a preliminary cause of death?

Answer: Because the physical autopsy is complete, the Medical Examiner is waiting on the lab work results of the toxicology.

What We Know: The Nex Benedict case

FOX23 has been investigating the case and gathering information as it's been released by police, family and school officials. Learn what we know concerning the death of Nex Benedict.

www.fox23.com

Very odd that the police are saying the death was not from trauma.
Police are not medical examiners or doctors. It doesn't seem like a responsible statement for them to make.

 

[Vern]

I think you’re missing my point. Freedom Oklahoma claims a lack of clarity on correct pronouns, and I am engaging with that concern. The family says Nex used they/them pronouns but has also been quoted (in the news and subsequently in this thread) referring to Nex as “her”. NBC News reports “Ally said Nex primarily went by he/him pronouns at school but also used they/them pronouns, which Nex's family also used. Several other friends said Nex preferred he/him pronouns.”

Identity isn’t rigid, especially for a young person, and it’s not surprising to me that Nex may have given people different information, or updated people at different rates. I have no objection to Websleuths going with what the family says, but I do take issue if it is treated as objective truth. Information conflicts, and Nex has been deprived of their ability to tell us what they would want right now.

Sounds gender fluid.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Very odd that the police are saying the death was not from trauma.
Police are not medical examiners or doctors. It doesn't seem like a responsible statement for them to make.

All I could take from the claim that Nex did not die from trauma is maybe there is evidence they died from an overdose, accidential or deliberate?
iirc: It was reported that Nex's eyes were rolling when either found by mother or when the medics arrived.

 

[Izzylizzy]

"I got jumped".
Is that what Rex said on the recording?
Normally someone would be hysterical if that happened to them. Rex seems... like this has happened before, and is used to no one taking threats against her safety seriously.
IMHO Rex was terrified every day and trying to cope with humor.

Honestly this hits too close to home for me, so I only saw a few moments of video before I had to stop. I apologize if I missed something.

I feel for you that this hits too close to home, stay strong.

In the video mom says her hands were "posturing".
Anyone know about other causes of "hand posturing"besides an epileptic seizure?
Can it happen in any type of seizures?


We found that ictal HPs were present in 72.5% of patients with frontal and 54.5% of patients with temporal lobe seizures. We divided HPs into 6 classes depending on the reciprocal position of the fingers (“fist,” “cup,” “politician's fist,” “pincer,” “extended hand,” “pointing”).Sep 9, 2019

Hand posture as localizing sign in adult focal epileptic seizures​

 

[Izzylizzy]

Sounds gender fluid.

iirc: Nex was described by her mom as "gender fluid",
The mom said she was still learning all the pronouns.

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Ah…okay. Hearing the description of events from the teen’s own mouth was illuminating. I’m sure I don’t have a popular opinion here, but I see this situation as mutual combat. The non binary kid turned a verbal altercation physical with the water and then continued to try to fight this group of girls when they responded physically. But I don’t know how it works in OK.

I think this poor child was trying to be an underdog hero standing up to bullies, but it didn’t work like on TV. We don’t do kids a service by always telling them to make a stand. Sometimes you need to suck it up and walk away if someone makes you mad. It doesn’t matter what the other person thinks.

Live and let live.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Totally agree Ive got 5 kids who are now adults and am so sad at this situation. I just confused as to why the school cannot offer bathroom alternatives like they do here in the UK. Its not ideal I know but offers a small solution to a complex situation.

My take is Nex went into the bathroom dressed like a boy and caught the eyes of the attackers. Nex started to get attacked verbally and then decided to defend themselves by attacking back physically by throwing water.

Seeing as Nex initiated the physical phase of the encounter this will allow the 3 girls to claim self defence and
for the charges to be downgraded from murder.

JMO

There is no such thing as self-defense from a sprinkle of water.

JMO. IANAL

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

If Nex was epileptic before the bathroom fight would be important to know.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I want others to review the CT. Hopefully it will be reviewed again by another doctor now to ensure integrity at the hospital? Or would hospital lawyers prevent an internal review of their own staff?

Only asking because when a recently discharged patient unexpectedly dies, I thought they still do an internal review at the hospital.

To be clear, I'm not blaming anyone for misreading the image. I'm curious about the internal review process in medicine.

A couple of different points here assuming this was a brain bleed which we don't yet know.

It's not necessarily that the CT was misread. Minute amounts of blood just may not be highlighted on a CT. That's one of the limitations of the technology.

If there was enough blood to see and the CT was misread, that will definitely come out.

If he died of a brain bleed, EVERYTHING will be looked at. The hospital's risk management dept is already on it, I'm betting, and they will definitely want to know if their doctors screwed something up. Even if t was a suicide, the hospital is going to want to make sure the ED documented he wasn't suicidal at time of visit. The hospital cannot legally protect their own staff nor would they. The hospital needs to protect itself, which means if a doctor or tech screwed up, they need to know about it so they can mitigate damages.

 

[Curiousobserver]

I feel for you that this hits too close to home, stay strong.

In the video mom says her hands were "posturing".
Anyone know about other causes of "hand posturing"besides an epileptic seizure?
Can it happen in any type of seizures?


We found that ictal HPs were present in 72.5% of patients with frontal and 54.5% of patients with temporal lobe seizures. We divided HPs into 6 classes depending on the reciprocal position of the fingers (“fist,” “cup,” “politician's fist,” “pincer,” “extended hand,” “pointing”).Sep 9, 2019

Hand posture as localizing sign in adult focal epileptic seizures​

Many kinds of brain injury as well as seizures will cause posturing, <modsnip: no source link> It surprised me that the mother used that term, which I have only ever heard in a medical setting.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Many kinds of brain injury as well as seizures will cause posturing, <modsnip: no source link>. It surprised me that the mother used that term, which I have only ever heard in a medical setting.

I believe the mother said on the 911 call that she had nursing experience.

 

[housewife]

I think the students had a school walk-out in protest of the way Nex was treated.

Kids today give me hope, sometimes.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Many kinds of brain injury as well as seizures will cause posturing, <modsnip: no source link> It surprised me that the mother used that term, which I have only ever heard in a medical setting.

Mom said she has "nursing experience"

Nex Benedict's mom raises doubts about police statements​

Popular Information | Judd Legum
https://popular.info › nex-benedicts-mom-raises-doubts-a...



3 days ago — The mother of Nex Benedict — the non-binary Oklahoma teen who was assaulted in a school bathroom and died the following day — is raising ...

Nex Benedict's mother blindsided by release of 911 call ...​

The Independent
https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Americas



2 days ago — Ms Benedict tells the dispatcher that she had nursing experience, and expresses concern about Nex's head injury while describing their symptoms.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Mom said she has "nursing experience"

Nex Benedict's mom raises doubts about police statements​

Popular Information | Judd Legum
https://popular.info › nex-benedicts-mom-raises-doubts-a...



3 days ago — The mother of Nex Benedict — the non-binary Oklahoma teen who was assaulted in a school bathroom and died the following day — is raising ...

Nex Benedict's mother blindsided by release of 911 call ...​

The Independent
https://www.independent.co.uk › World › Americas



2 days ago — Ms Benedict tells the dispatcher that she had nursing experience, and expresses concern about Nex's head injury while describing their symptoms.

From the article:

Lieutenant Nick Boatman, the Owasso police spokesman, later told the Popular Information newsletter that the medical examiner had not explicitly told him that Nex’s death was unrelated to the head injuries.

 

[caradana]

MOO: self-infliction. That said: this kid had the misfortune of being born in the wrong place. Not alone, there are hundreds of millions in history with the same affliction. But I’m typing this from the West Village in Manhattan, and I can say, with MOO: certainty, that had this child been born in this place they would have been celebrated. Let us all hope that we are born - or destined, by our own efforts or by fate - to the communities prepared to welcome and hold us tight. Xo.

 

[LouTennant]

MOO: self-infliction. That said: this kid had the misfortune of being born in the wrong place. Not alone, there are hundreds of millions in history with the same affliction. But I’m typing this from the West Village in Manhattan, and I can say, with MOO: certainty, that had this child been born in this place they would have been celebrated. Let us all hope that we are born - or destined, by our own efforts or by fate - to the communities prepared to welcome and hold us tight. Xo.

I think this is a delayed head trauma from Nex head being beat on. Can't fathom what Nex could take to suddenly collapse around others?

 

[#JUSTICE4WILDER]

Perhaps an overdose? On the 911 call the dispatcher specifically asked if Nex used drugs, vapes etc. Wondering what vapes could have done to cause their death if so?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

MOO: self-infliction.

Respectfully snipped for focus.

I don't agree. Nex didn't appear the least bit despondent in the hospital video. I get the sense of Nex as a fighter.

To answer a different part of your post that I snipped out: I lived in the West Village for awhile. Lucky you!